They just follow the money and shift opinions accordingly.
The just follow the money and shit opinions accordingly
horseshoe theory?
i have a mate whos all into the hippy & green stuff but also fell down the wellness route which is antivax adjacent and thats very reform, he sometimes comes out with some very farage like comments
Just going off my own social meedya feed, I can see that the antivax thing led quite a few ‘normal’ people down some very bizarre, tinfoil helmeted, conspiracy-theory wormholes, which tends to lead to Reform territory.
I’ve also got a mate, who is truly the most unlikely of candidates (lives on a canal boat, very into beardy folk music and organic everything), who’s also bought into the whole thing and now apes Farage with their opinions
^^ How the hell did that happen
Because the Greens were, for a long time, attractive to the "Green Conservatives" especially in local govt who generally feel that localism is the answer - empower individuals and small government to make decisions and then get out of the way to allow them to come to their own solutions rather than more centralised "big govt" initiatives. It's only more recently that the Greens have decisively moved to give up on attracting those people, it was the "big thing" at their last conference. I'll bet money he's not the only one thinking of defecting, being moderately right wing in the Green Party probably feels pretty unsettling right now.
Aye - green politics sits apart from the left / right spectrum. Our current green parties are light green / leftie not pure dark green
Have we done Nige's cameo for Ian Watkins?
Have we done Nige's cameo for Ian Watkins?
He does seem to spend a far amount of time on cameo without really worrying about the content. Not quite sure its really suitable MP behaviour. Can you imagine the complete meltdown by the right wing rags if it had been Corbyn?
Would have thought at about 1k an hour he could have managed to do some basic checks.
Reform UK’s London mayor candidate condemned for burqa stop and search remarks - Laila Cunningham accused of endangering Muslims after saying it ‘has to be assumed’ people hiding their face for a criminal reason
Predictable but still disappointing bullshit from Reform candidate for London Mayor. As a periodically immunocompromised person, I feel like I have a pretty good reason to cover my face in public. As a Londoner, I am pretty sure that none of my neighbours are worried about being robbed by burka-wearing women (who I personally have seen about 5 times in my life in London, altho tbf I don't hang out in Whitechapel much); bally-wearing teenagers, maybe.
I’ve also got a mate, who is truly the most unlikely of candidates (lives on a canal boat, very into beardy folk music and organic everything), who’s also bought into the whole thing and now apes Farage with their opinions
Yep, I have examples of those.
Two in particular, both outwardly appear to be typical "90s alternative folk metal" fans and musicians, think New Model Army/Levellers. One of them is overtly a full on Trump supporter/free speech is dead in the UK/Londonistan/UK is an Islamic terror state/hurty words on Facebook doesn't count as incitement to violence even if they are calling for people to be burned to death information war victim.
@piemonster you need to tell your “friends” that they “should do their own research “.
Nij Al Farage is funded by the Saudis to turn the uk into an Islamic state.
He has already ethnically cleansed white Christian mainland Europeans from our land. Now he wants to remove our right to worship a Christian god by removing us from the ECHR.
When you look at THE FACTS it’s hard to disagree.
That should mess their minds just a little bit.
I’ve also got a mate, who is truly the most unlikely of candidates (lives on a canal boat, very into beardy folk music and organic everything), who’s also bought into the whole thing and now apes Farage with their opinions
Had 3 of my close mates go the same way at the start of covid with trump nonsense, religion, Michelle Obama is a man, earth is flat, didn’t go to moon etc…etc…..
They do come from a Scottish hotspot for such illness, Newmilns in Ayrshire
Dropped all contact with them/blocked their numbers etc 5 years ago, my life is shit enough without listening to such bullshit mental illness
I see he pulled out of Frau Kuenssberg's Sunday morning slot saying that he was under the weather.
Or was he not wanting to answer any questions about Donny?
Farage cannot deal with hostile questions. I heard him of the radio , he looses his head.
I wonder when more facts emerge about his life before he was so much in the public eye , the papers/tv and waiting to time it right!
Got to love his comments on the defections. Panicking Tories leaving a stinking shop is exactly why these defections are happening!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gv9gyxgjjo
I wonder who the "well known" Labour defector is likely to be next week, if it's whom it's rumoured to be, she's not been in labour for yonks.
Panicking Tories leaving a stinking shop is exactly why these defections are happening!
Speaking of which Andrew Rosindell has joined tories mk2.
Dunno about you but I am starting to have doubts that reform are really going to be an alternative to the duopoly.
rohipnol rossindale is most upset about the chagos islands....mad as a box of farages
Johnson may have purged the sensible MPs, but Farage is hoovering up the very worst of those that remain
this is awesome
Jenrick has a piece in the times saying the Tories are mad for not booting out Truss
https://bsky.app/profile/sundersays.bsky.social/post/3mcqazoqjys27
and Truss has replied to say he must be getting orders from a secret controller , because hes a Trojan horse
https://bsky.app/profile/sundersays.bsky.social/post/3mcqaupi42s27
Farage has to be setting Reform up so he can continue to throw stones at the government glass house come 2029.
He can't possibly think taking on all these Tory rats is going to help him become PM after the next General Election.
and Truss has replied to say he must be getting orders from a secret controller , because hes a Trojan horse
It’s quite something watching just how utterly batshit Liz Truss is. How much longer before she starts wearing a tinfoil helmet in public?
In May 2022, Rosindell was arrested by the Metropolitan Police on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust, and misconduct in public office.
What is it about Reform that attracts these sort of people?
In May 2022, Rosindell was arrested by the Metropolitan Police on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust, and misconduct in public office.
What is it about Reform that attracts these sort of people?
Being led by someone who is mentioned in the Epstein files?
Farage has to be setting Reform up so he can continue to throw stones at the government glass house come 2029.
He can't possibly think taking on all these Tory rats is going to help him become PM after the next General Election.
I imagine he's just loving all the publicity at the Tory's expense. He doesn't have a long term plan, certainly not one that seriously considers 2029.
Farage has to be setting Reform up so he can continue to throw stones at the government glass house come 2029.
He can't possibly think taking on all these Tory rats is going to help him become PM after the next General Election.
He doesn’t want to win. If he wins he will be accountable and wont have time to keep his current 6 jobs. He is much happier where he is now making pots of money throwing stones.
He doesn’t want to win. If he wins he will be accountable and wont have time to keep his current 6 jobs. He is much happier where he is now making pots of money throwing stones.
Agree, Where he is now is perfection for him. Get lots of money, stir things up, wind people up etc,. It is clear that he is enjoying it.
He doesn’t want to win. If he wins he will be accountable and wont have time to keep his current 6 jobs. He is much happier where he is now making pots of money throwing stones.
I've been saying this for ages. It's another level of magnitude (or at least cash) from doing f'all as an MEP. The last thing he wants to do is any real work.
Question: When Johnson became PM, did he give up all his other paid work? Did he earn more or less money, and gifts, from his side hustles than before he was PM? As an ex-PM is he in a better or worse position than other politicians financially once they give up the "day job"?
Personally, I think Farage would love to be PM. And if he can manage that, he'll make sure there will be less accountability for him than past PMs... he'll go further there than even more than Johnson, with his firing of people who tried to carry out their roles scrutinising his office.
I see he pulled out of Frau Kuenssberg's Sunday morning slot saying that he was under the weather.
Why the dog whistle?
No, but the Johnson years show that there are opportunities for an opportunist PM. You'd don't have to give up the grifting. The same can be said for some other ex-PMs as well. Of both parties. Perhaps not to the same extent. But Farage could use being PM, and his life after being PM, for his own aims just as much (I'd argue even more so) then he has used his various positions as an, er, opposition politician to benefit himself.
There were reports that being PM resulted in a pay cut as he lost his media columns etc
His Mail column as ex-PM pays him four times as much as his Telegraph column paid him before he was PM.
It's true that ministers (currently) have to give up their columns... Farage changing the rules to carry on being paid for media gigs isn't hard to imagine, is it. Current rules can be torn up. He'll claim "tearing up the rule book" as part of his mandate if he becomes PM.
Anyway, whatever stopped Farage being interviewed by Kuensberg yesterday has cleared up, as he's been on camera today
He’s just been on Channel 4 news and after some brief half-arsed condemnation he’s back in his comfort zone as a Trump apologist/toady
****!
"Accidently" broke the MP's rules 17 times.
Nigel Farage inadvertently breached MPs' financial rules 17 times, says watchdog - BBC News
Nothing to see here. Move along.
"Accidently" broke the MP's rules 17 times.
I'm a 'computer illiterate oddball' says man who says you should vote for him to run the country
His company... Has only one employee, right?
I'm a 'computer illiterate oddball' says man who says you should vote for him to run the country
Odd he has mastered computers enough to do all his cameo gigs. I guess those are for profit vs accountability.
His company... Has only one employee, right?
It does seem to be just a personal service company aka a way of reducing taxes (I dont think the liability side of things will be a factor).
Last time he "answered" about it his spokesbod said “Thorn in the Side Ltd has traded for 15 years and has a variety of interests. It renders the services of several contractors and is a properly functioning company.”
I am guessing those contractors aint full time ones.
and has a variety of interests.
Fags, booze, occasionally milkshakes.
Its not a huge variety of interests
‘Nine job Nigel’ as he is known. Amongst other things…
"I'm not, I'm afraid, computer literate, which makes me yet more an oddball than perhaps I was before."
Sorry, as I know I'm making a generalisation here but it has to be said, doesn't the above also describe his voter demographic too? I'm sure he *also* thinks that and that's why, in part, he said it.
So blame our Nige' not me. 😁
^^ He and his voters don't do irony mate, or hypocrisy! Lol
Sorry, as I know I'm making a generalisation here but it has to be said, doesn't the above also describe his voter demographic too?
Not necessarily. One of the things reform and co are good at is using social media. cant find it right now but there was a study suggesting amongst the 55+ it was reform voters who were more likely to use social media for news vs other groups.
World would be a ‘better place’ if US took over Greenland, says Nigel Farage
unbelievable how far he isup trumps arse. unusually poor politics from him given how poorly trump is viewed here
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unbelievable how far he isup trumps arse. unusually poor politics from him given how poorly trump is viewed here
Interesting isn't it? I think his fate is now intrinsically tied to Trump's. That's a huge exploitable weakness right there and Farage knows it.
Whilst those that still support him are highly unlikely to change their vote no matter what he does (it's a MAGA style cult now), if nothing else, I'm hoping that the revulsion towards him and Trump will result in an, "anyone but Farage/Trump" vote. Suppressing Farages voters from voting at all will the best we'll get get from them. Farage distancing himself from trump will encourage that scenario. Farage is in a vise if his own creation.
Farage has to carry on supporting Trump most of the time because most of their views are so closely aligned and so publicly stated. He disagrees with Trump too much and his base will crucify him, they really do want a Trump clone installed into power over here. It would take only one Trump SM post decrying Farage as a sell out and he's be in real trouble with many of his voters.
As trump causes more and more chaos over the next 3 years I can only see that link between them worsening Farages position and motivating moderate/left wing voters to keep him out with tactical voting.
Ideal? No, necessary? Yes.
Without disagreeing with you, one thing that's worth pointing out is that Trump has no interest in Farage at all. Trump didn't bother meeting Farage when he (Farage) flew to the US after Trump was shot, and Farage (like Truss) was a total failure at CPAC. The idea that they are great mates is one put about only by Farage...
...but his support base eats it up
His base maybe but he needs more than his base to vote for him and being a trump sycophant will surely be used against him?
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Without disagreeing with you, one thing that's worth pointing out is that Trump has no interest in Farage at all
Totally agree with you to matey, in fact I'm really hoping you are dead right as Trump will turn on Farage at the drop of a hat as soon as Farage tries to distance himself from him. There is zero loyalty there.
This really is a vise of Farage's own makeing, support Trump over the years to come and he's tied himself to a madman, disavow him and his diehard voters will tear him to bits.
This really is a vise of Farage's own makeing.👍
Rumour mill suggests that Suella Braverman is going to be the next Tory to defect. Announcement today apparently
Rumour mill suggests that Suella Braverman is going to be the next Tory to defect. Announcement today apparently
Wasn't there meant to be a big Labour defection this week as well?
If he recruits Howie will he get David Icke next?
I'm really hoping that a combination of these toxic new recruits, his closeness to trump and the fags n booze see the ****er off.
Probably Troies with a modicum of decency.
I don't think Cruella will join as her fella was quit Reform when they criticised her...
In December 2024, Rael Braverman joined Reform UK, but resigned seven months later after his wife was criticised by Reform's former chairman over a political matter.
The above is from Wikipedia
His base maybe but he needs more than his base to vote for him and being a trump sycophant will surely be used against him?
You'd hope so, teej, but after Brexit and COVID and Johnson, I'm not feeling very enthusiastic about the wisdom of the crowd tbh. I think we might actually be a bunch of idiots
Unbecoming as it is to take any pleasure in someone's demise, there's a wry irony that a man (last paragraph) "whose world revolved around those he loved" should die doing something driven by hate.
news.sky.com/story/paul-john-lumber-bristol-man-died-after-falling-from-ladder-while-tying-union-flags-to-lampposts-at-night-13497738
Unbecoming as it is to take any pleasure in someone's demise, there's a wry irony that a man (last paragraph) "whose world revolved around those he loved" should die doing something driven by hate.
news.sky.com/story/paul-john-lumber-bristol-man-died-after-falling-from-ladder-while-tying-union-flags-to-lampposts-at-night-13497738
Ha-Ha,
Very similar to the incident I saw driving into Carlisle as I dropped a mate off at the station, spotted a flag tyer up a ladder on the way into Carlisle dropped mate off at station and on way out there was an ambulance attending someone on the pavement.
Reported on local news website that the man suffered a heart attack and fell, broke his leg, collarbone but ultimately recovered in hospital
Like I said….Ha-Ha
Unbecoming as it is to take any pleasure in someone's demise, there's a wry irony that a man (last paragraph) "whose world revolved around those he loved" should die doing something driven by hate.
He fell because he leant too far to the right.
A well-known fan of Bristol City, Mr Lumber had written two books based on his experiences, titled It All Kicked Off In Bristol, which explored football hooliganism.
Nuff said.
I can't think of anything new, clever or insightful to say about this guy. I just wish he would just burn in hell. Thats all i've got.
It's not often* I celebrate a Conservative success but one of the Reform councillors near us has defected to them and given the Conservatives overall control of bucks cc.
*err like never before
Career politicians innit... no morals, no principals, just in it for the easy money and the gold plated pension.
Not sure that applies to councillors
Why wouldn't it? if they are wearing the colours of a political party, that makes them a politician in my book.
Being a councillor isn't a recipe for easy money and gold plated pensions. It's being attacked online by name by every halfwit and nobber in your neighbourhood that throws around smug smartarsed ignorant comments. There's not a pension in the world that would convince me to do it.
It's not often* I celebrate a Conservative success but one of the Reform councillors near us has defected to them and given the Conservatives overall control of bucks cc.
*err like never before
Council by election near us has just seen the Greens take a seat from Reform. Hurrah!
Ah OK - turns out I was wrong. Another rat leaving the ship.
Did we ever get the "big Labour detection" that was supposed to happen last week?
I said after Jenrick that she was bound to be next!
It really is just so predictable which of these washed-up Tory rejects are going to end up with Nige. It has to be be Mad Lizzie next.
Farage has completely lost it if he thinks this motley shower of Kemis cast offs are going to win him votes. The voters slung most of them out at the last election.
Did we ever get the "big Labour detection" that was supposed to happen last week?
Nope. Farage was too busy hiding from awkward questions about Trump and being an honorary advisor to the global elite in Davos to hold any press conferences.
Career politicians innit... no morals, no principals, just in it for the easy money and the gold plated pension.
Not sure that applies to councillors
Why wouldn't it? if they are wearing the colours of a political party, that makes them a politician in my book.
Councillors, on average, work 22 hours a week, and get paid around £15,000 a year for it. You might call that "easy money", but you'd probably be in a minority on that one.
They are assembling a proper Bastion of Turds.
At what point will it start to damage them, or are these the loons that the Reform demographic are drawn too?
When do they get Reese Mogg?
Rumour is that she has approached Reform but they said no
Less than a month ago they ruled out taking Cruella. Nige can’t seem to help himself when it’s comes to putting together his little petting zoo of failed and discredited Tories
It's an old joke but I think of the line "the average IQ in both parties increased" fits the bill.
Suella Braverman, next in line of the Tories who broke Britain, to get on a stage with the batrachian member for Clacton and complain that Britain is broken. "Feels like I'm coming home" she says, well, it would do, wouldn't it, seeing as Reform is full of ex-Tories.
It's an old joke but I think of the line "the average IQ in both parties increased" fits the bill.
Saw a poll that suggested that the Tories were more popular since Jenrick left. Braverman going could be a real game changer
Isn’t their name Reform now a bit oxymoronic? Given the steady trickle of Tories moving over, shouldn’t they now be called Same?
I get that some people voted & would vote Reform because they feel the UK does need something else, something a bit different from what we’ve got right now (why they think that is a whole other topic). But surely what folk will now get is all the shittest bits from the past few Tory governments, which hardly equates to any sort of reform, does it?