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Great quote from the US congressional hearing on censorship that Farage has appeared before:
“To the people of the UK who think this Putin-loving free speech impostor and Trump sycophant will protect freedom in this country: come on over to America and see what Trump and Maga are doing to destroy our freedom. You might … think twice before you let Mr Farage make Britain great again.”
That's all very well but the average Reform voter isn't going to see a problem with what is happening currently stateside.
Maybe not... but to be in government, Reform need to win over more than their "average Reform voter", and opposition to Labour needs to be built on (the UK under being painted as becoming a "Police State" by American politicians over amplified by USA owned Social Media is helping with that).
When challenged as to why he was in the US and not in Parliament yesterday he wasn't happy. "So what?" possibly not the best image to create.
Reform need to win over more than their "average Reform voter
Have you seen the opinion polls lately?
Reform need to win over more than their "average Reform voter
Have you seen the opinion polls latel
Be interesting to see how it pans out round here (Blackpool/Fylde coast)
Years ago there was massive opposition to fracking round here, especially after there were several earthquakes (albeit pretty minor but some reports of property damage and people certainly felt them.)
But I believe Nige wants to immediately over turn the fracking ban, so what will the locals see as more important? I don't hold out much hope.
If only the UK was North Korea - we could march him around the corner and do the biz with a pistol.
Surprise surprise Nadine joins Farages Fillies
I for one am happy reform are offering an alternative to the uniparty of Labour/tories and giving us a new party which isnt just a bunch of tory rejects and definitely isnt led by professional politicians who have spent their life in politics like Farage sorry I meant Starmer, oh shit he didn't ermmmm oh look at that squirrel!
Surprise surprise Nadine joins Farages Fillies
Nasty Nadine joins Nasty Nigel.
Seeing as she's no longer a MP, it is basically just another horrible piece of work backing Reform. Just like all their voters.
Hardly worth bothering to report on it.
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It’s surely going to get a bit laughable to portray Reform as being anti-establishment party when it’s rammed full of Tory rejects who all lost their seats at the last election?
Liz Truss is surely next? Nige is a big fan remember, singing the praises of her mini-budget at the time, shortly before it imploded the UK economy.
In other totally unsurprising news: Nige is dodging tax and a prominent American anti-vax loon has been invited to address the Reform conference with his tinfoil-helmet views on medicine
None of that matters as you will find if you go and talk to a few Reform voters. They are not into the detail...
True. Channel 4 news did a vox pop on the street in Sunderland a few weeks back, where Reform are polling really well. They simply asked a load of professed Reform supporters ‘other than immigration, what other Reform policies do you support?’
Cue lots of confused looking people going “erm….. errrrrrrr……”
Wonder if this is a pre-cursor to the up turned sofa's return to poly tix - when it joins Reform.
I would like to see those 2 egos bashing about there, can only see chaos.
True. Channel 4 news did a vox pop on the street in Sunderland a few weeks back, where Reform are polling really well. They simply asked a load of professed Reform supporters ‘other than immigration, what other Reform policies do you support?’
Cue lots of confused looking people going “erm….. errrrrrrr……”
Yep, I commented on that the time in another thread, its almost like they revel in their own utterly complete ignorance.
Absolutely no excuse for it, call them out every time for being thick as shit.
Unsurprisingly Radio 5 Live are airing some Reform rally live right now. Appreciate it's good controversial content but I'm sickened and saddened by how much air time they're given.
True. Channel 4 news did a vox pop on the street in Sunderland a few weeks back, where Reform are polling really well. They simply asked a load of professed Reform supporters ‘other than immigration, what other Reform policies do you support?’
Cue lots of confused looking people going “erm….. errrrrrrr……”
Reform have managed to convince their supporters that once immigration is "dealt with", everything else will be fixed. They don't need other policies.
Andrea Jenkyns conference ‘speech’?
There are no words…. 😳
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/andrea-jenkyns-band-reform-song-video-b2820978.html
how much air time they're given.
And yet they still whine about how "main stream media" is mean to them despite giving them all this fawning coverage and complete lack of any hard questions. The US congress thing was fascinating in just how badly Farage handles tough questions which he cant just wave away.
Brutal takedown
Seriously, how can this be allowed to happen?
My BIL has passed the initial stages to become a 'councillor' for Reform - my sister is less than impressed, especially after he went to one of the 'hotel' protests recently. Just been away (Wales) for two weeks, and come back to one of our main roads covered in flags on every light post - must be over 50 flags. FFS.
And yet they still whine about how "main stream media" is mean to them
They need to be able to project being both heroic and victims at the same time. You'll see the same mentality in all Alt-Right/Far-Right broadcasters and grifters from Alex Jones Tucker Carlson, etc etc.
despite giving them all this fawning coverage and complete lack of any hard questions.
Farage gets a lot of coverage, in all but GB News its hardly ever 'fawning' and I've seen plenty of times Farage gets asked challenging questions, he's just very good (like most politicians TBF) of answering a different question or ignoring inconveniently difficult subjects.
For years I enjoyed reading Dr Aseem Malhotra and his no sugar messaging in the press but then he joined the anti-vax brigade and I was disappointed. Now he's speaking for Reform and has just ascribed the King's cancer to the Covid vaccine at their conference. Can't help but think that he's in the wrong place with the wrong name, wrong colour and wrong message, oh dear Dr Malhotra what are you thinking?
oh dear Dr Malhotra what are you thinking?
Perhaps he's planning a trip to America?
I've not lived in the UK since 2007 so am a little out of touch. But what I can't understand, is the fact that my parents hate Trump and everything he stands for, yet love (and voted for) Nigel Farage! Aren't they the same? Am I missing something here?
It’s Vegemite and Marmite.
That Dr definitely bought first class tickets for the Grift Express!
Am I missing something here?
Farage is more subtle about things. He carefully walks the line and, mostly, succeeds in implying vs actually saying and letting others do the saying. Whereas Trump just takes a shit on the line.
So it gives more opportunity for people to read what they want into what he says and give him the benefit of the doubt.
Exactly this. Farage is very clever in that the racism and nastiness he espouses is generally suggested or implied and done through nods and winks, rather than obviously foghorned out, like Trump.
Then if more obviously extremist Tommy Robinson types want to take it and run with it? Well that’s nothing to do with him, is it?
He simply said that he wanted to restore English national pride that ‘our’ culture is being diluted by immigrants.
He didn’t actually say ‘go out and throw bricks at a mosque or set fire to a hotel’ did he? And just look at his affable, tweedy, red-jeaned innocent face, completely mystified as to why anyone would take that as the message he was trying to convey.
Plausible deniability.
Not for the first time on this thread, but if that plane crash had gone just slightly differently, wonder how the last 15 years would have panned out?
I certainly wouldn't be upset if he had another unfortunate accident.
For years I enjoyed reading Dr Aseem Malhotra and his no sugar messaging in the press but then he joined the anti-vax brigade and I was disappointed. Now he's speaking for Reform and has just ascribed the King's cancer to the Covid vaccine at their conference. Can't help but think that he's in the wrong place with the wrong name, wrong colour and wrong message, oh dear Dr Malhotra what are you thinking?
Agreed, I even have his diet book and it is very good. Following the diet in it, I was able to effectively reverse my pre-diabetes and loose a whole load of weight in the process.
But whatever we think of the s**t-show that are Reform, perhaps he does have a point here. It is important to clarify whether he anti-vaccine in general, or just anti the novel Covid MRNA vaccines that were rolled in haste?
My wife, who didn't get the covid vaccine because a friend of hers had a very severe reaction to her Pfizer jab that she still hasn't fully recovered from, forwarded me a recent study from Japan where it is clear that there have been significant level of excess death after covid vaccination.
She has also send me a podcast from Senior Oncologist Angus Dalgleish (worth a Google), who has listed seemingly plausible mechanisms of action as to how the MRNA shots might have interfered with the immune responses that keep cancers at bay. Very interesting listening to what he has to say, and to learn that we all have some degree of cancer at all times apparently, but normally these cells are destroyed by a healthy immune system.
Now this might all be coincidental, but why is it that we are being told to dismiss such information as 'far-right' etc? Surely we need to put our politics aside on this one, and with all the new evidence coming to light recently, it does need a proper looking into.
Lots of people eat lobster everyday.
I eat lobster and I'm puking everywhere. WE MUST ALL STOP EATING LOBSTER.
Lots of people eat lobster everyday.
I eat lobster and I'm puking everywhere. WE MUST ALL STOP EATING LOBSTER.
Imagine the scenario where you were made to eat lobster everyday to be able to keep your care or NHS job even though it makes you sick, have to eat lobster if you want to travel abroad, reminded to eat lobster every time you turned on the TV, asked constantly whether you had eaten your lobster today by friends and family, and if you said no because you didn't care for it, you are a selfish individual who is killing others and you become uninvited from family events, meals etc.
This was the unfortunate situation my wife found herself in when she refused her Covid vaccine because she had seen her best friend become seriously ill after taking it. But she was treated like scum and her concerns dismissed by people who should have known better.
I'm not dismissing anyone who has evidence that some people have suffered ill health and indeed death from the vaccines. I'm disappointed that a Dr would choose a 'far right' political stage to air those views. Which has the side effect of reinforcing the far right right anti-vax stereotype and devaluing the message (along with Dalgleish). I'm open to Dr Malhotras views but when he speaks at a Reform event and brings in the King's cancer (which let's face it you'd have a great deal of difficulty proving was caused by vaccination) I can't help asking, well, what I said earlier - oh dear Dr Malhotra, what are you thinking?
On a personal level the Astra vaccine gave me headaches and neck ache, the fact there were two doses removed the coincidence possibility in my own mind. The MRNA vaccines had no adverse effects I noted. However my main health issues over the last five years started with catching Covid very early on, March 2000. I initially though I'd got bad seasonal asthma, then Madame Edukator got Covid toes and conjunctivitis and we realised we'd got it. Knowing what I know now I'd have no hesitation in using a time machine to take myself the Moderna vaccine back to January 2000.
Edit to add: Worse than I thought:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Dalgleish
I'm not dismissing anyone who has evidence that some people have suffered ill health and indeed death from the vaccines. I'm disappointed that a Dr would choose a 'far right' political stage to air those views. Which has the side effect of reinforcing the far right right anti-vax stereotype and devaluing the message. I'm open to Dr Malhotras views but when he speaks at a Reform event and brings in the King's cancer (which let's face it you'd have a great deal of difficulty proving was caused by vaccination) I can't help asking, well, what I said earlier - oh dear Dr Malhotra, what are you thinking?
On a personal level the Astra vaccine gave me headaches and neck ache, the fact there were two doses removed the coincidence possibility in my own mind. The MRNA vaccines had no adverse effects I noted. However my main health issues over the last five years started with catching Covid very early on, March 2000. I initially though I'd got bad seasonal asthma, then Madame Edukator got Covid toes and conjunctivitis and we realised we'd got it. Knowing what I know now I'd have no hesitation in using a time machine to take myself the Moderna vaccine back to January 2000.
Yes it's a shame he had to speak at the Reform event, but perhaps the Green Party haven't invited him? Unfortunately the right leaning press at present seem the only ones to entertain any sort of alternative scientific opinion (of which there seems lots). And it seems to be the right leaning press that have been raising concerns about the incredibly shady business practices of the pharmaceutical industry. Really really strange this, because I always thought it was the left who were traditionally more open to freedom of choice, bodily autonomy and anti-big business etc. Yet on this issue, from the left, just tumbleweed.
Grifters united.