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Kuensberg is too soft on her.
This government has to go.
It's quite simply the IEA and the Taxpayers Alliance running the country.
People need to wake up to this absolute disaster.
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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/619781
night with my white-van Brexit voting portion, of my mates
think I saw them this morning at the popup vax clinic taking up the first five chairs at the front of the queue while the lady with cerebral palsy or motor neurone (sic), leg braces, crutches and a helmet had to sit on the curb in front of them. With ****s like this in the country we're all worse off.
Kuensberg is too soft on her.
Of course she is. She is a tory. However she still made Truss look stupid
The complete takeover of the UK government by far right zealots continues at pace
I really do think that this is full on scorched earth and they intend to do as much irreversible damage as possible before they’re booted out
https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1576541593150320641?s=21&t=cic3mvSq-NbcFADR8DcZJQ
Re Kuensberg et al…….
Why, when they keep repeating the line that ‘we shouldn’t keep focusing on redistribution’, are they not asked if that means the end of ‘levelling up’!
If levelling up isn’t redistribution, I really don’t know what it is?
Because they have to soapy tit **** the interview otherwise they’ll never get a chance to host them again, that’s why the regional bbc interviews last week with Truss were so good.
Barely worth noting but hasn't she just given herself a 10k p/a pay rise with this tax cut?
Truss bot 2.1 needed a reboot during Laura Kuenssberg interview , obviously an over the air update failure.
My Tory MP actually gave me a reply and it's not the usual "everything is fantastic" reply.
Let's hope there's a big split coming.
I think all Conservative MPs have to be careful in the coming days not to create extra instability because of what has happened. But I am very aware of the scale of concern about the decisions taken and there is clearly a big pushback at Westminster. I find it hard to see MPs accepting the proposals in their current form.
With best wishes
Chris Grayling
Blimey. That is a surprising answer.
You’d be forgiven for thinking we didn’t have a parliament this year… have they voted on anything since July?
In another worrying development for the surrey pensioners that voted for the Trussterf*ck this was on Surrey Live today
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/how-badly-damaged-would-surrey-25147506
Could affect house prices a bit. Idiots.
But you look at her and it’s as if everything is going just great and everyone will come to appreciate her genius, given time.
I genuinely think that she’s completely hatstand! Totally deranged! Madder than a box of frogs!
She looks utterly unhinged when she’s interviewed.
Would anyone bet against her triggering article 16, from the lectern,?live on air, during her conference speech?
How the hell did we end up with that as Prime Minster?!
https://twitter.com/johnjcrace/status/1576636674771021825?s=21&t=HSpDBs0DAOjniiR3QBmHrA
I genuinely think that she’s completely hatstand! Totally deranged! Madder than a box of frogs!
She looks utterly unhinged when she’s interviewed.
“about as close to properly crackers as anybody I’ve met in parliament” - Dominic Cummings.
How the hell did we end up with that as Prime Minster?!
Brexit. Politics as a game show. Idiot party electoral systems that leave the final selection of a leader up to party members, see also Corbyn and Johnson.
Didn't she just throw her chancellor under the bus in that BBC interview this morning, can't remember the exact phrase but it was basically 'it was his idea'.
Guessing rewinding her neck on the 45p tax threshold will quell rebels (and the other mental ideas will stay). If it all gets too messy then Kwasi will go for that and she'll just run the country down enough for eveything to be privatised by her pals just before the election.
I thought kuennsberg was supposed to be a good interviewer?
That was utterly dire.
Is that what the BBC has stooped to under threat of dissolution?
Glad I don't pay my TV licence.
Didn’t she just throw her chancellor under the bus in that BBC interview
I thought it was telling that the meeting with the OBR was at no11, almost as if all blame is with the chancellor
I thought kuennsberg was supposed to be a good interviewer?
If you’re a Tory MP, she’s the very best. You won’t get an easier ride than a Laura K interview. You’d get more of a grilling off Phil and Holly on This Morning
I’d like to see Victoria Derbyshire give Truss a proper working over.
As for Truss and Kamikwazi,… I suspect their respective minions will be spending the week briefing against each other, before it breaks out into a full on he said/she said Bitchfest when we get the next run on the pound, so probably Tuesday morning
I’d like to see Victoria Derbyshire give Truss a proper working over.
That’s niche.
truss looks increasingly rough; pressure or over-indulgence?
Who knows and who cares?
Other than who or what may replace her; anyone for kemi badenoch?
The Peter Principle is in full swing. Although I’m not sure our Liz was ever competent at the lower levels.
I’d like to see Victoria Derbyshire give Truss a proper working over
Andrew Marr or Emily Maitlis would both have given Mis Truss a real kicking.
What's happened to Emily btw.
Let's see who has the most tire tracks down their backs in the next week.
I really hope truss gets slow hand clapped at the conference.
And stop having it in brum it spoils the air.
What’s happened to Emily btw.
She’s gone out on her own…of sorts. She’s doing the NewsAgents podcast with John Sopel after they teamed up very well on Americast. It’s not too bad a listen. She also did quite a good interview recently with James O’Brien on his Full Disclosure podcast series.
Thanks, sounds like a couple of podcasts to add.
caher - Maitlis has moved to Global which is part of LBC, or vice versa.
Blimey. That is a surprising answer.
Makes sense when you consider Tory MPs will be thinking of their own future electability. They'll fall over themselves to put distance between them and Truss.
JRM got a "nice" welcome at the conference. There is a lot of anger brewing.
Benny Hill theme tune is on loop outside the conference too, I see.😁
This lady is for turning
so much for being adamant yesterday morning 😀
Nice headline but is a drop in the ocean and the markets will seemstraight through it.
“girouette en fer” As she is already known en France.
One of them will be gone by Friday.
Sounds like they are hoping to blame Chris Philp and make him the fall guy instead… like he somehow slipped the policy past the PM and Chancellor without them noticing, and then doctored all the footage of the parliamentary announcement and subsequent interviews to make them sound as if they thought it was a key policy of theirs.
Hopeless little squit doesn't realise he's being lined up for the chop, either.
I'm enjoying conference so far, how about everyone else?
love the fact that In one fell swoop she's trashed what was left of her reputation and burned every right wing "comment" writer (along with the ministers and saps paraded to defend it ) 😀
I have heard it claimed that the principal person behind the scrapping of the higher rate policy was actually Andrew Griffith.
Not that it really matters mind.
so much for being adamant yesterday morning
Ridicule is nothing to be scared of!
Ridicule
is nothing to be scared of!
Charming!
so much for being adamant yesterday morning
Dandy highwayman?
Hours before the U-turn she was denying it
https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1576888448450969600?t=WfkHZ8b0i1r9-4Fw801ajQ&s=19
Well, if they did the planning and forecasting before introducing the policy, they are hiding it very well... and if they did the planning and coordination before removing the policy, they're sure hiding that as well. Still... bodes will for the next two years, doesn't it. Just keep winging it...
Spinning at 45rpm..?
Well they did say that they were going to try a new approach, free from economic orthodoxy
It seems they settled on the ‘**** it! let’s just do it and see what happens…’ theory
I can’t understand why, with the livelihoods of tens of millions of people at stake, nobodies tried it before
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/liz-truss-must-avoid-populism-and-plan-long-term
Well that's one piece of advice that Liz Truss appears to have heeded, avoiding populism, as opinion polls showing Labour leads of over thirty percent testify.
Referring to higher education?
By populism, they are probably meaning stuff like...
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1576914319224492039?s=12
It’s like they’ve asked the sort of people who phone in to Jeremy Vine if they’d like to form a government?
from that...
Deputy Labour leader Angela Rayner said: "These comments show just how out of touch with reality Liz Truss's Tories are.
"Jake Berry thinks people consigned to low pay can simply magically upgrade to a higher wage job. This is a Tory crisis, created in Downing Street, paid for by working people."
👏🏼
Ah, been a while since Ms Jenkyns, my MP, did/said something stupid. Must be over a month now, was getting worried.
No wonder they are attacking the Universities - they encourage critical thinking. Last thing they want.
I thought the skill in being a politician (if you were inclined to go down this road) was to get this stuff past the public without anyone really noticing - not write and publish a book about it and then 3 weeks after becoming PM start acting it all out page by page
That and the skill of reading the room
Both of these seem to have absolutely past her by so with those two concepts not in the back pocket I don't hold out any hope for her to last more than months, if that.
Bounce still on the rebound
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1576965307930857475?t=me1HNTCSKXXXptq80-Av-g&s=19
We definitely underestimated her.
I mean, this all would be hilarious if they weren't actually in power and causing such grief for people.
What are your choices as a Tory MP at moment? Just admit you're likely out of a job in two years and keep your head down, or get rid of her now knowing that that must mean a general election and you're out on your ear within months? This is your only chance I'd guess for a while to really get rid of her, voting against the mini budget (which is effectively a vote of no confidence). If she gets through this (and I can't see Kwasi staying long) then its likely to wipe out the party cdomletely (thankfully).
Westminster voting intention
Thicko question... What's the significance of Westminster's intentions?
Is it considered a good barometer of the rest of the country, or is it just a consistent benchmark to refer to? Or have I misunderstood the term altogether?
Westminster = the UK parliament rather than Scottish parliament. So basically the general election overall, not just people who live in Westminster
We definitely underestimated her.
I'm surprised that it's happened so quickly, but i had faith that she'd balls it all up.
What I still can't get my head round is that the Tory membership elected her in the first place, I was convinced that pragmatism would win out
These numbers are just silly
https://twitter.com/ahmerwadee/status/1576975375078666245?t=ywyhkfVmFhPkC7tsEH6dGA&s=19
How long before the leadership election
What I still can’t get my head round is that the Tory membership elected her in the first place, I was convinced that pragmatism would win out
Boris continuation vote IMHO. Genuienely think they think he was doing okay apart from the party thing. I don't know if they resented Sunak because he was involved in bringing BJ down (in their minds anyway) or they are all basically racist. I'm guessing the former but not convinced.
Yup, Truss made a big thing about being loyal to the man who's never been loyal to anyone else.
PM, Radio4... about to do a panel with Tory members... so let's see what they say...
"strength and humbleness"
"real character"
"doing the right thing"
"we can now put all this extraneous noise to one side"
Westminster = the UK parliament rather than Scottish parliament. So basically the general election overall, not just people who live in Westminster
Thanks
Isn’t Jake Berry delightful?
He isn't known as Jake the Snake for nothing, my local MP, a real career politician.
scratch
I thought the skill in being a politician (if you were inclined to go down this road) was to get this stuff past the public without anyone really noticing – not write and publish a book about it and then 3 weeks after becoming PM start acting it all out page by page
That and the skill of reading the room
Both of these seem to have absolutely past her by so with those two concepts not in the back pocket I don’t hold out any hope for her to last more than months, if that.
Well put
It's utterly baffling that someone has had a supposedly good education and worked in industry can be so stupid! I would love to find out what here former colleges at Shell really thought of her?
I mean we knew bungling Boris was a grade A Flute with no morals and only out for himself & his mates, but he did it with the charm of the school idiot while going about it. You knew he was playing a part in screwing us over while quoting Latin and trying to be a statesman & to a degree it worked as we laughed at it and some worshipped at his alter.
But Truss is just a train wreck, I have a few acquaintances who are of the Blue voting persuasion and they fully admit that the future of their party is bleak and will probably sink further yet as the in fighting continues. They even admit that if Labour are in power then all the cock ups their government created will be used against Labour as though they were the cause! by the incumbents.
I have done OK in life & seethe with rage at those that just say "I'm alright Jack" I've helped out my nephews & nieces where I can. I seem to be the guarantor for 3 of them on their property!
I've heard that people become more right wing as they get older? Not in my case, I have become much more Left leaning & I guess that's from life experiences.
Sorry for the ramble, I'm finding things very upsetting these days 🙁
I’ve heard that people become more right wing as they get older? Not in my case
The issue here is that the Tories are moving right faster than anyone can keep up with.
I’ve heard that people become more right wing as they get older? Not in my case, I have become much more Left leaning & I guess that’s from life experiences
This is me, too, I'm also quite upset about the last decade or so, particularly...
Scotroutes nailed it.
After today's performances, I think it's probably dawning on Truss and Kwarteng about now that every policy announcement that is unpopular with the public is going to be challenged on air by Tory MPs in the expectation that it's going to be ether reversed before getting to a vote, or risk being voted down in parliament. The Truss PM-ship dead on arrival
I’ve heard that people become more right wing as they get older? Not in my case, I have become much more Left leaning & I guess that’s from life experiences.
Definitely me too. My family did OK when I was growing up in the Thatcher years. It was only when my world view was expanded as I moved away and worked with more vulnerable communities that I saw the other side of the coin, and moved to Liberal, then Labour, and now anyone but Tory.
scotroutes
The issue here is that the Tories are moving right faster than anyone can keep up with.
You have a good point there, my In Laws who get the Daily Mail once a week have an almost Labour view of things these days
fadda
This is me, too, I’m also quite upset about the last decade or so, particularly…
That's very much my experience, after the brexit vote I had colleagues with young children in tears at what had been taken away from kids.
I also was absolutely raging and still am at what my late wife was put through with the PIP "bit of a mess" not what I really said. Never have I felt so angry in my life ever, the people that tried to mow me down with their cars mattered not one jot in comparison.
The utterly contemptible shits that came up with the PIP system deserve to suffer. I won't go into detail suffice to say its a system designed to screw you over.
Subjecting someone with Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis that had been given a lifetime higher rate mobility and care award with utterly loaded ridiculous questions is beyond evil.
Yup. My pal with NSwho couldn't walk and had significant cognitive impairment was found fit to work and her benefits stopped. Reinstated on appeal as they usually are.
The system is designed to make you give up and stop claiming and has cost loads of lives. Its deliberately cruel
The PIP system....
I've had first hand and indirect experience of that over the years.
It's amazingly cruel by design and relies on tricks and simply wearing claimants down to the point they give up.
It's a despicably cruel system.
I won't even go into the utter contempt the government stow by expecting people with complex mental and or physical problems trying to explain them to what are in the vast majority of cases are physio therapists.
Yes, physio therapists. Most doctors/nurses etc won't go near the system for obvious reasons.
Sorry to go ot.
Listening today to Mr Kwarteng saying the reversal was "The right thing to do" ,I was hoping one of the interviewers would put him on the spot and ask Why was it the right thing to do?, them follow up any answer with, Why did you do it in the first place then?.
The PIP system….
I’ve had first hand and indirect experience of that over the years.
It’s amazingly cruel by design and relies on tricks and simply wearing claimants down to the point they give up.
It’s a despicably cruel system.
I won’t even go into the utter contempt the government stow by expecting people with complex mental and or physical problems trying to explain them to what are in the vast majority of cases are physio therapists.
Yes, physio therapists. Most doctors/nurses etc won’t go near the system for obvious reasons.
Sorry to go on.
Oh feel free. 🙂
I've been put through this a few times. The first time they actually lied and changed what I'd told them, which went then to tribunal. My tribunal against the DWP was over in under 5 minutes, and they ruled against the dwp and atos.
The second interview- or 'medical showtrial' as its best described, I was pretty peeved by the previous, and explained to the Autism carer who accompanied me that the 'doctor', who was sitting opposite, and i referred to in the third person, was little better than one of Dr Mengele's assistants and should in my opinion be treated the same.
They stopped that medical there and then after only a few minutes and I've not heard from them since. I think in all fairness had it gone on i'd have grabbed them by the throat.
Reading these last few posts really hurt me, that I'm a UK citizen.
We are surely better than this?
It's beyond ignorance, it seems like really evil.
And I don't use the word 'evil' lightly.
How long before the leadership election
I thought there was some sort of rule that once a new leader was in place there couldn't be another leadership election for a year?
At this point it's irrelevant anyway, it's simply rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. The whole party is corrupt and rotten to the core.
I’ve been put through this a few times. The first time they actually lied and changed what I’d told them, which went then to tribunal. My tribunal against the DWP was over in under 5 minutes, and they ruled against the dwp and atos.
I could have typed that, right down to the ATOS bit... Now known as IAS, of course as the brand became so toxic.