This could've gone in the Jeremy Corbyn thread, but I reckon it deserves it's own...
Does such an aggressive response mean the Tories are rattled?
I reckon so. It's almost as if they underestimated the appeal of integrity.
Having read the Telegraph and Times at the WE, it does seem like the Right Wing press is all out to get him, although given their readership, it's all just preaching to the choir.
I think the grass roots thing is really spooking the Tories, first the SNP wipe the floor North of the border and then a socialist wipes the floor with the Labour Party - bet the Tories are genuinely spooked by it!
It's almost as if they underestimated the appeal of integrity.
or the inability of money and lies to always triumph over truth.
[i]I reckon it deserves it's own.[/i]
Let's hope our reptilian overlords agree with your assessment.
The Tory party and its continued support for mass immigration and intervening in muslim countries is a threat to our national security. That's what Id tweet if I were Nigel Farage (which one day I hope I am).
It's amazing how much fuss the right-wing press are making about an 'unelectable' Labour leader, isn't it? If the Tories really believed that, they'd be keeping quiet.
[i]if I were Nigel Farage (which one day I hope I am)[/i]
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That video is all a bit "New Labour, New Danger" isn't it?
That worked well for the Conservatives.
its all because they (tories and RW press) are scared of this kind of comparison...
what were they up to in the 80s...
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Wow, I'd not seen that. That's a pretty desperate attempt by the tories (not that I'm a labour supporter) - play on peoples fear.
It's nothing to do with what it appears - this sums it up well
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-called-jeremy-corbyn-6435223
Just as they did with austerity and the concept that labour were entirely to blame for the recession because they were overspending, they are pushing that conservatives are have a strong, reliable plan for the economy and that they offer security while labour offer neither.
It's pre-election 2020 spin rather than what they're actually talking about. To some degree you have to admire their forward planning/thinking even if the effect is not particularly palatable.
And the issue really is that Labour's focus is likely to be internal while they work out what JC leadership means - all the while the Tories will be setting the agenda as they did during most of the previous parliament.
It's all about the Tories setting the agenda for the debate and hammering home the message they want. They know that currently Labour are in a mess, so will make hay while the sun shines.
I think whoever won the Labour election the Tories would have been straight on the attack. I think they'd have taken all 4 candidates with the same level of threat.
TBH, what the Tories do now is going to be pretty irrelevant. Cameron is going to have his hands full as the the Euro "Bastards" and RW loony fringe of his own party go mental between now and the Euro in/out debate.
[quote=miketually ]It's amazing how much fuss the right-wing press are making about an 'unelectable' Labour leader, isn't it? If the Tories really believed that, they'd be keeping quiet.
You seem to be missing the point. He's only unelectable (in their opinion) provided they keep pointing out why he's unelectable. He won't unelect himself. I'm not sure how much effort they make to disparage him is an indication of how much of a threat they perceive him to be.
Yes of course the Tories are rattled. As I said on the other Corbyn thread expect this sort of tactic when right-wingers hit the panic button.
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However those sort of tactics didn't quite work in the US where imo the electorate is a bit less sophisticated and well-informed than in the UK, so even less likely to be effective here imo.
Hopefully they will go completely over the top with ridiculous allegations which will be counterproductive, although I doubt the senior Tory politicians are that stupid, the right-wing press might be though.
He won't unelect himself.
Interesting comment aracer. I take it that you don't believe in the theory of "the longest suicide note in history" ?
It's all about the Tories setting the agenda for the debate and hammering home the message they want.
No it is just the politics of fear and hate, they are setting a tone not an agenda, a tone of dirty tricks and failure to inspire. It is what everyone is tired of and completely misses the point in the groundswell of support for Corbyn. The tories are so smug in believing that the disenfranchised will stay so, and if Corbyn stays honest and sets out a real agenda with integrity he will attract millions of voters who have felt they had no one to vote for previously.
[quote=ernie_lynch ]Interesting comment aracer. I take it that you don't believe in the theory of "the longest suicide note in history" ?
Not really no. I reckon with the right PR spin, in an absence of information from the opposition, pretty much anybody can be made electable*. Suggesting that Corbyn will perform like Foot is of course also PR spin, as is the idea that Labour would have lost in 83 whatever the Tories did (wasn't their victory somewhat related to some military exercise?)
* I'm not suggesting that JC needs lots of PR spin to be electable, I'm waiting to see how he does as leader of the Labour party - I think he might do a rather better job than many expect.
Does such an aggressive response mean the Tories are rattled?
Not in the slightest - just ensuring they define their opponent as they wish straight away.
Not at all. the Tories have kept quiet hoping Corbyn would win. They'll take him seriously as a threat, they'll not be remotely worried unless he's still leader in 2019 with Labour doing well in the polls and IMO there is zero chance of that happening
As I posted a month ago his voting track record and his "friends" will come back to haunt him. The video is all obvious stuff to bring to the fore.
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As above, this is the response regardless of who won - just different routes of attack depending on who won. With JC it may well appear easier to them given past cautionary tales but it's not a given (and I'm sure they'll be working hard to come up with stories that shake the belief that he's an honest/straightforward person).
The politics of fear, always plays well, more so if the euro/global economy is looking grim still in 4 years time
Osborne seems the likeliest Con Leader by then (I think hes now assuming he's beaten Borris) so Im assuming that this has come from him
JC is the best thing to happen to British politics
just ensuring they define their opponent as they wish
Includes all the press, including the lefty* BBC who preface ever reference to him as "veteran left-winger".
*according to almost all of the press and definitely the Conservative PR teams.
It's win/win for the Tories at the moment - they can make all sorts of ridiculous accusations based on Corbyns (equally ridiculous) past statements, and for every one he denies, he looks like he is stumbling against party division (which then fuels the loony lefties to demand he goes further left, because nothing he could do would be enough for them) , while every accusation he doesn't deny fuels the fire.
I don't expect anything less from the Tories, but I doubt it's just me utterly fed up with their patronising constant message of negativity and hate. They don't have any ability to put forward a reasoned, intelligent positive argument do they - it's just relentless hysteria. Says a lot about what they think of the electorate and I suspect may rebound against them some day - they will realise the electorate has more than a brain cell too late.
I think that's the most cynical and pathetic piece of political propaganda I've ever seen.
Especially ridiculous given some of the 'friends' David Cameron has - various war criminals, murderers and dictators. Then of course there's old Maggie's chum Pinochet. Unbelievable hypocrisy but morons will lap it up I suppose.
They don't have any ability to put forward a reasoned, intelligent positive argument do they - it's just relentless hysteria.
I thought Gove was quite measured and completely unhysterical on Sunday morning saying quite seriously that he saw a Corbyn-led Labour Party as a contender for Government at the next election. I also thought his argument against Corbyn's political stance was quite well thought-out and credible.
I really don't think it's worth discussing or taking seriously in the slightest.
Propaganda Wars...
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The only person pedalling propaganda is Jeremy Corbyn. He's told us what his vision of utopia is like, and who can argue with it...but he's not told us how he's going to deliver it. It's a replay of the Sipras situation, wins on selling a myth with absolutely no idea on how or the means to deliver.
Principles are all well and good, but its all about how possible they are to implement. Also his veiw that you can just dismiss the basic fundamentals of how the global economy works and expect people to believe that they and the country will continue to thrive just discredits him in most peoples eyes...."Lets just print more money and dish it out to people, that way people will be richererer"....nice one JC, what a great idea - but the humdinger about renationalising the railways takes the buscuit.
I'm waiting to see how things develop. I'm still half expeciting him to come up with some revelation, some light-bulb moment that shows us all where we've got it wrong, but I suspect it'll be a disaster, 70's politics didn't work in the '70's or in the '80's in opposition, they have less chance now. It'll start to unravel when he has to tackle the big principled issues. If he is seen to back down one inch he'll risk losing those similarly principled people who have answered his call.
I think the grass roots thing is really spooking the Tories
Not so sure about this grass roots thing.
Didn't seem to work out to well for UKIP at the GE ... ??
Having said that not liking all the Con propaganda. They should concentrate on playing the ball and not the man
Having said that not liking all the Con propaganda. They should concentrate on playing the ball and not the man
They've also failed to notice, or take on board, that Corbyn making a point of not getting involved in mud-slinging during his campaign seemed to work greatly in his favour, and left the others looking cheap for resorting to it, while failing to voice anything positive themselves.
Whether you believe in his policies or not, I think most people would agree that the overwhelmingly negative yaa-boo nature of modern politics is a massive turn off. So someone who seems genuine about not sinking to it will be a novelty.
It'll be interesting to see if he can maintain it in the face of what is sure to be an ongoing campaign of character assassination from the Tories attack dogs in the right wing press
As someone who enjoys watching a bit of politics I think he's a fantastic addition to the mix, a true leftie with all that comes with it.
Are the Tories afraid of him? I think they should be. We should never forget that whilst the Tories won the last election, when everyone expected it to be very close and possibly mean another coalition - it was in no way a landslide and they don't have a massive majority - we've already seen proposals killed off before a vote because they knew they couldn't win because a few back benchers went off message.
They made promises they expected to be able to not keep and blame a coalition partner.
More over, they put a lot of effort into fighting right during the last election, everyone expected UKIP to win a dozen seats or more, but for all the pre-election fever and admittedly a decent slice of the popular vote the 'UKIP threat' amounted to 1 seat, which they held anyway - that wasn't blind luck, like in the Scottish Independence vote David Cameron had to make a lot of promises to get over it, a slight movement to the right on Europe and Immigration that we're still seeing now, it took a dead boy on the front of every paper for the government to do anything and even then they can only risk a disproportionally tiny response compared to our neighbours.
They relied on a huge shift to centre in the post-Blair era to secure a win and a shift back right to nullify the risk from UKIP - if they alienate the centre thinking voters, will the flock to the now more-left Labour?
The only person pedalling propaganda is Jeremy Corbyn
😕 That conservative video is pure propaganda - it's absolutely shameless.
"Lets just print more money and dish it out to people, that way people will be richererer"
Whereas printing vast amounts of money and handing it to the people who screwed everything up in the first place, then letting them carrying on exactly as they were.....
but the humdinger about renationalising the railways takes the buscuit.
'The majority of the British public – including the majority of Conservative voters – support nationalising the energy and rail companies'
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/11/04/nationalise-energy-and-rail-companies-say-public/
But apart from all that - great post, well done.
Who thinks he will stand for Prime Minister in 2020?
Setting aside the struggles he will face 'purging' a party of Blairites, will a 70 year old man be electable for a 5 year job?
DC says he won't stand for PM in 2020, will they pick the anti-Corbyn?
No matter what Theresa May, Boris or Michael Gove would like to think, Corbyn will be fighting the next election against George Osborne. So... yes... thats about as anti-Corbyn as it gets
[quote=P-Jay ]everyone expected UKIP to win a dozen seats or more
Apologies for going way OT, but it is the second mention of UKIP on this thread - I expected them to win 2 or 3 - was a dozen really being suggested?
'The majority of the British public – including the majority of Conservative voters – support nationalising the energy and rail companies'
It's also basic economics that where a natural monopoly exists it should be state controlled. Even ardent supporters of The Market recognise this - it's why we have a government run navy, rather than privateers.
@grum I can't let that pass 😉 the people who screwed it up are long gone, the money was leant to banks in order that small business finance, credit cards and mortgages remained available and those loans are being repaid. Corbyn's version of QE will be an inflationary disaster which will hurt working people, even the Labour party have spotted that.
I certainly didnt expect UKIP to win a dozen seats, as per above 2 or 3 max. I was not surprised tonsee thrm take votes from Labour
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the money was leant to banks in order that small business finance, credit cards and mortgages remained available and those loans are being repaid.
That was the theory anyway. Just a pity they never got anything in writing, as the banks sacked off the bit about making credit available to small business and decided instead to once again flood the market with cheap consumer credit, to increase unsustainable spending on shiny things people don't need, propped up by mortgage lending to stoke another unsustainable housing bubble.
But then, why wouldn't you? After you created those exact circumstances the last time, and nearly bankrupted the country, instead of being hauled over the coals, you just got a blank cheque from the taxpayer
No... I really just don't get the appeal of Corbyns sort of politics at all
P-Jay Corbyn won't be leader by 2020, as I've posted before he won't last 3 years and probably much less. I also noted he'd be 67 at the next GE
Re-nationalisng Rail and Utilities is pragmatically impossible. It would be hugely expensive and as people want thrm nationalised so they reduce bills the price paid to nationalise them will be based on todays bills so the government will have to hugely overpay vs future revenues. This is if its even possiblenunder EU law. Note the owners of many utilities are French comp ies and they will out upna huge stink over any such plans - diplomatic nightmare on top of financial complexities
Re-Nationalisation is another example of Corbyn's policies in oppostion being impossible to implement in practice
unless the tories lead us out of the EU....
@binners the regulators changed the rules so "this can never happen again" tbis made it much more expensive for banks to lend and in any case banks had too many loans so theyve had to shrink- working worh the consequnces if that is what ive been doing for a living for 5 years now. Bringing private capital into replace bank lending. Its a natural consequencec of all the new rules
@kimbers I can only hope so 🙂 I see Corbyn will not commit to campaigning to "remain" as he wants to see what Cameron negotiates
If this article is correct, the Tories consider Corbyn an open goal so their strategy is to tar Labour itself with the brush of Corbyn's policy so Corbyn can't hand over to a moderate leaving an electable party.
Personally I think that's a far better strategy than personally attacking Corbyn alone.
It suggests that the Tories think there's a real chance Corbyn won't make it to 2020 as leader.
@grum I can't let that pass the people who screwed it up are long gone, the money was leant to banks in order that small business finance, credit cards and mortgages remained available and those loans are being repaid. Corbyn's version of QE will be an [b]inflationary disaster[/b] which will hurt working people, even the Labour party have spotted that.
Inflation is only a disaster if you have large amounts of cash. Which doesn't describe most of the UK.
It would reduce house prices relative to earnings.
It would wipe off private and government debt.
It devalues the £ making exports competitive.
It's going to happen anyway.
Given the mix of "ring fencing" and outright vote buying the retired rich have had over the last 5 years, a bit of inflation is only fair for the rest of us.
Inflation is only a disaster if you have large amounts of cash.
No it's not, it is also a disaster if you are heavily leveraged and can't make the increased payments.
Problem as I see it is that Corbyn's economic policies are based around anti-austerity post the economic crash, but by 2020 the crash will have occurred 12 years previously and economic conditions will be very different.
aracer - MemberP-Jay » everyone expected UKIP to win a dozen seats or more
Apologies for going way OT, but it is the second mention of UKIP on this thread - I expected them to win 2 or 3 - was a dozen really being suggested?
I'm sorry you're quite right, when I first wrote that I was thinking 3-4 but I thought I'd check and misread the Poll history and read % of vote with seats - no, you're right the pollsters were only expecting 3.
You'll forgive me, the media pre-election seems to be pushing them as contenders.
the money was leant to banks in order that small business finance, credit cards and mortgages remained available and those loans are being repaid.That was the theory anyway. Just a pity they never got anything in writing, as the banks sacked off the bit about making credit available to small business and decided instead to once again flood the market with cheap consumer credit, to increase unsustainable spending on shiny things people don't need, propped up by mortgage lending to stoke another unsustainable housing bubble.
Yeah it was total BS.
I remember it clearly, the PM stood in front of the dispatch box and said words to the effect of "I have made £XBillion available to the Banks who in turn will make these funds available to small businesses who desperately need this credit to keep trading".
I was GUTTED, because I was working for RBS at the time, my job was to lend money to small business to buy Vans / Printing presses, till etc - anything business related that needed finance, I did it and I was sick of it, after 9 years frankly brilliant performance with all the bonuses, awards and promotions that came with it, they'd closed my department, dropped me into a job I couldn't do without any training and 3 months after being given an award for good work, I was facing stage 2 disciplinary for poor performance - stage 5 was dismal
The next day was even worse Stephen Heston called us all for a teleconference, thousands upon thousands listened as I assume he bit the back of his hand to keep a straight face told us that the Government had seen our worth, agreed it was their fault not ours (RBS is like that) and had finally ponied up the money they owned us to keep trading and we would make £xMillion available to small business, which was odd because I'm sure the Government said a figure in Billions, but hey - this was a disaster for me.
The day after that was a smaller teleconference, merely a few hundred of us in my Dept. I was inconsolable now, the future only held two possibilities for me - either I performed a mini miracle and didn't get managed out, or I got the sack and entered the job market with no reference and 10 years experience in finance in 2009...
They say it's always darkest before the dawn - he started, "if your job role contains the following code".... and rolled off a load of letters which denoted how much you got paid and whether you had a Golf or a C-Class company car "your role no longer exists, there will be very limited opportunity to migrate into a new role, but for most of you we offer counselling, redeployment training and your standard redundancy package as illustrated in your terms of employment" some cried, some shouted, most sat quiet as he told us how wonderful things will be once we're all gone. Me? I was to dance out of the door, my boss looked gutted - I know he'd just lost a couple of grand of productivity bonus because he hadn't managed to get rid of me before the deadline.
Anyway, despite what the PM said, and what the bank said both publically and privately, they sacked off 75% of staff that handled small business finance 2 days after they said they were going to lend more - 6 months later Robert Peston asked why, given the terms of the bailout RBS had lent so much less, he was told that "businesses weren't asking to lend" which was bollocks, it was a bailout, Labour bought the bank for too much to save it from collapse and the Tories are selling it for too little for short-term gain, to make the stats look good (and help their mates no doubt) this is a bank that pre-crash made £10bn a year in pre-tax profits.
Re Quantitative Easing - I used to be very skeptical about QE and increasing debt until I heard Martin Wolf speak at Hay festival. He said the maturity of UK and similar economies means that private investment in infrastructure won't happen on any large scale anymore, no one is building new factories etc; the government should use it's ability to borrow at really really low rates to make infrastructure investments. I also recall the 'economic recovery' (which George likes to talk about) is based on the same private-debt driver which lead to the credit crunch, we (policy makers) need to find a different structure of economic growth.
http://www.ft.com/comment/columnists/martin-wolf
P Jay the problem was that the regulator was telling every UK bank to increase their capital ratio and the only way to do that was to shrink their balance sheet.
@thisisnotaspoon - higher rates of inflation hurt working people as prices rise faster than wages. House prices generally do quite a good job of rising with inflation
@P-J I appreciate your post but without those bailout loans small business would have their existing loans/overdrafts called in. There would have been a huge domino effect and the crises would have been much worse. As above banks lent too much and the regulatory responce was to ensure they lent less in the future (relative to their capital)
As a follow on Corbyn and in particular McDonald want to nationisle the banks - from what ive seen of state run German banks that will make the current situstion look like eutopia. Its another "opposition/protest" policy which cant possibly work in practice
from what ive seen of state run German banks
What have you seen of state run German banks?
Its another "opposition/protest" policy which cant possibly work in practice
And yet when we had nationalised banks in the UK in recent years it did work. In fact it worked better than before they were nationalised. In practice.
What have you seen of state run German banks?
Pretty much anyone who has worked in wholesale finance for any time has experienced the state run German banks - they were/are inefficient and exceedingly badly run even by recent standards.
That death of bin Laden is a tragedy headline is a classic bit of selective quoting. Put in context what he actually says (paraphrasing obviously) is that it would have been better if he had been tried and sentenced for his crimes rather than assassinated. When he say's 'tragedy' he doesn't mean in a personal sense like some of the media have been suggesting but a tragedy because it would worsen or at least not help the situation in the middle east.
The scale and depth of this smear campaign can only mean that there are some powerful people who are thoroughly sh!tting themselves over his leadership.
Pretty much anyone who has worked in wholesale finance for any time has experienced the state run German banks - they were/are inefficient and exceedingly badly run even by recent standards
So made up bollocks by the incompetent greedy, you really will have to do better than that.
So made up bollocks by the incompetent greedy, you really will have to do better than that.
Fine - go and look up the financial problems that have engulfed [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portigon_Financial_Services ]West LB[/url], [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSH_Nordbank ]HSH Nordbank[/url] etc
@Spin: 99pc of quotes are out of context and bullshit, but it's not just politicians who have to put up with that. It should be a crime IMHO.
However, the IRA quote is real and in context. He really did say it and his justification of it didn't dispute or amend the meaning at all.
Wow, you found some banks that suffered in the middle of a world financial crisis, that's convincing. Good job there were no privately owned and run banks that needed rescuing with public finances in that period.
Grum - well done for posting the results of a poll. That's it then all proved. I'll get my hat. Of course the nasty tories must have messed with my memory and changed it from memories of an ultra efficient rail network to a completely and utterly incompetent and inconvenient nationalised rail network of my youth. And devaluing our currency contrary to established fact, is actually a good thing. Who'd have thought it.
[quote=Spin ]The scale and depth of this smear campaign can only mean that there are some powerful people who are thoroughly sh!tting themselves over his leadership.
I (and others) covered that one earlier - no it doesn't mean that at all, that is simply his supporters' fantasy. They would be busy smearing whoever had got elected - the scale of it is simply down to the material they have to work with. The supposition that if they thought he was unelectable, they wouldn't need to attack him is a fallacy - they think that they can make him unelectable provided they attack him.
As suggested above, they probably think he won't be around by the next GE (provided they push hard enough), and what's more I imagine that's part of their plan - they might think he's good for them, but even better would be the turmoil caused by another leadership election and shift of direction.
the scale of it is simply down to the material they have to work with
The material they have to work with would seem to be largely soundbites taken out of context. If there was real shit to throw it would have been thrown.
The Tories and their press buddies will do what worked so effectively last time, look at 'red'Ed as well as going at him via his dead commie dad, his love life, his bacon sarnie eating prowess they even said he had a horrible kitchen !
Id like to see a bit more nouse from the electorate but it'll take a Tory bit of a mess over Europe to give labour any sort of chance
but it'll take a Tory bit of a mess over Europe to give labour any sort of chance
I'm not sure even that will help. I hope Corbin signals a return to some politics of integrity rather than the unseemly votes before principles approach of the Blair and subsequent eras but I fear the internal divisions will be too much for him and that labour will once again disappear up their own arseholes.
The Tories and their press buddies will do what worked so effectively last time, look at 'red'Ed as well as going at him via his dead commie dad, his love life, his bacon sarnie eating prowess they even said he had a horrible kitchen !
I'm sure there will be all kinds of personal shit from both sides but this time there will (perhaps) be real policy differences to argue about which will make for a cleaner fight.
They would be busy smearing whoever had got elected - the scale of it is simply down to the material they have to work with.
Rubbish. It is precisely because they have so little to work on that they are very obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel.
As Spin says : If there was real shit to throw it would have been thrown.
It's an interesting video. It may be designed to appeal to traditional Tories but does little for the disaffected with who Jezza has the most appeal. To be honest it could almost be a promotional video for him.
It isn't a great leap of imagination to see how Osama bin Ladens death is a tragedy. It is one death on top of many thousands of other and is more about revenge than justice. It did nothing to improve the situation in the middle East. Killing people is not going to solve that problem. So it is a tragedy on top of other tragedies as it will only make things worse.
Which brings me onto his second point - the only way to solve that problem is with dialogue. I'm sorry it may not be what people want to do but shooting at each other will get us nowhere.
Scrap trident - I don't want to nuke anybody and it is little consolation that should someone decide to nuke Britain we'll be able to hit them back. I don't see the deterrent argument in current political wars as being relevant, we aren't really dealing with countries any more where the threat of a counter attack is of any use.
Finally, in the interests of misquoting and cutting bits from speeches and not understanding them I'd like to add "there is no such thing as society".
If there was real shit to throw it would have been thrown.
I've heard the IRA quote in full three times today from three different media. That's real, I checked.
@jomba: nice post.
[quote=jonba ]It's an interesting video. It may be designed to appeal to traditional Tories but does little for the disaffected with who Jezza has the most appeal.
I can't imagine it's designed to appeal to them - there is a whole other swathe of voters he needs to attract though.
Finally, in the interests of misquoting and cutting bits from speeches and not understanding them I'd like to add "there is no such thing as society".
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I've heard the IRA quote in full three times today from three different media.
I haven't. What did Corbyn say about the IRA?
Can anyone find the "All White people are racist" quote in context. I rember it from the time but before the interweb quotes were hard to check.
If you read the news Ernie you'd know who said it and what was said.
If you read the transcript of his interview with Stephen Nolan on Radio Ulster Ernie, Corbyn refuses repeatedly to condemn the IRA's actions. He is quite happy to condemn the British Army by name and "all other sides" but not the IRA by name.
It may be some others are attributing John McDonnell's historic comments to Corbyn.
I do read the news and I can't see any quotes by Corbyn with regards to the IRA. I suspect that you might have made a mistake which is why you haven't provided a link. Presumably being a smartarse is preferable.
If you read the transcript of his interview with Stephen Nolan on Radio Ulster Ernie, Corbyn refuses repeatedly to condemn the IRA's actions.
So what is the quote which outofbreath has heard three times today?