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[i]No, Alabama. [/i]

free the Alabama 3;


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 9:51 am
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I still see TSY. At night. When I close my eyes.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 9:52 am
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what was the reason then?

Its my opinion that the baiters should have been banned too.

Well, then.


 
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derailment is the only interesting thing in a lot of the old tired done and done again threads..
All conversation either derails or ends (killed or not)

maybe if the search function wasn't so attrocious there would be less repetition so those with a strong point to make/stance to hold wouldn't even be noticed.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 9:56 am
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Ooh that sounded ominous Cougar 😯


 
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Hmm. I do find that search often doesn't find things. Is there a syntax/method key somewhere?


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 9:58 am
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I do find that search often doesn't find things. Is there a syntax/method key somewhere?

Use Advanced and the filters it will sort them out.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 9:59 am
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or do a site specific google search.


 
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I think the place is a lot more cliquey since the change from the old style to the new style. There were threads that went to over 1500 posts about talking about complete and utter bowlocks. But now its the same old crap day in day out. "oh my life is rubbish. my wife/brother/partner has left me!!" or "Oh my job sucks. I've been screwed over by my boss cos I won't screw her!"


 
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He's been picking fights on FB posts from friends of my friends though

I've obviously missed that then - was actually quite surprised at how un-argumentative TJ appears on FB.


 
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Whatever happened to torminalis?


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:04 am
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Whatever happened to torminalis?

Still actively posting.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:13 am
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[i]But now its the same old crap day in day out. "oh my life is rubbish. my wife/brother/partner has left me!!" or "Oh my job sucks. I've been screwed over by my boss cos I won't screw her!"[/i]

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Posted : 12/07/2013 10:17 am
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Not noticed anything from him in ages Drac. Probably the onset of some sort of dementia 😳


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:18 am
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or do a site specific google search.

Adding site:singletrackworld.com to your search string will do this.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:19 am
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or do a site specific google search.

That's what I always do.

I've been here quite a while now, probably 6 years or so, and I've not really noticed any massive difference without Fred (who I've met IRL) and TJ, I found the threads easy to avoid if one desired.

I do think it's a friendly forum in general, but actually found people like GW more offensive as he just turned up being unpleasant on virtually every thread!


 
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Just had a look as the STW.Argue on FB.

What a sad, sad little man he is.


 
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Its my opinion that the baiters should have been banned too.

One did. But toadied his or her way back a few days later. Goodness knows what they wrote in mitigation but I'm pretty sure it won't have been short and succinct. 🙂


 
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Who is, or was, GW?


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:21 am
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. But now its the same old crap day in day out. "oh my life is rubbish. my wife/brother/partner has left me!!" or "Oh my job sucks. I've been screwed over by my boss cos I won't screw her!"

Threads depend on the members creating them or making them interesting, arguing and bitchy making posts over 1000 does not make a good forum.

So if you'd like more interesting threads then start one.


 
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STW.Argue needs this as a profile pic
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Posted : 12/07/2013 10:24 am
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TJ's problem was that he was sufficiently passionate/single-minded/immature/pigheaded (choose accordingly to your charitableness) to not be able to comprehend other people might have opinions different to his own that they have come to not because they were uninformed or ignorant but because they just thought differently to him. He had little respect for differing opinions, often crossed the line into insulting, and was deluded enough to think that constant arguing, come backs and having the last word was going to win people over. He was the archetypal pub bore who in the real world you would quietly sidle away from but in forum world gets equal status to bang on and on and on and on and on.....


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:26 am
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Posted : 12/07/2013 10:27 am
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They - well, Fred in particular - would love the fact people are still sitting round debating the whole ban thang. Attention whores the pair of them ... and look what they're receiving now.


 
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What a sad, sad little man he is.

Fred Defence Flag Wave:

That sounds more than a little patronising to me.

Aziz suffers (by his own admission - I'm not being intrusive, here) from ADHD.

It's probably why he was tolerated for so long by the [s]camp guards[/s] moderators, but it eventually made a rod for his own back - I'm assuming that one of the side-effects of ADHD is that the sufferer is unable to recognise when they've gone too far.

Personally, I enjoyed watching TJ's knot work. It's a shame he was banned but, hey! If Cressers can come back...


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:29 am
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Lord Darcy of Darcington:

One did. But toadied his or her way back a few days later. Goodness knows what they wrote in mitigation but I'm pretty sure it won't have been short and succinct.

Happy birthday, sugar-tits.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:30 am
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TeeJ was a lot of things, but an attention whore wasn't one of them. No need to be nasty.


 
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TJ's problem was that he was sufficiently passionate/single-minded/immature/pigheaded (choose accordingly to your charitableness) to not be able to comprehend other people might have opinions different to his own. He had little respect for differing opinions

Respectfully 😉 I disagree. I argued/discussed differences of opinion with TJ quite often, and even changed his mind at least once (and he mine). Now maybe there's the in-real-life effect there, but I don't think so. Truth is it was perfectly possible to disagree with him without it being the end of the world.

Meanwhile, posts like this:

all lefties of any degree are dictators just under the surface, history proves this (do your own research).

are absolutely fine apparently.


 
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At least he leaves behind him the legacy of: "The Edinburgh Defense". 8)


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:37 am
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Respectfully I disagree

I respect your opinion to disagree with me 😉


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:37 am
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[i]The Edinburgh Defense[/i]

Spelling defence like that probably means he can't pronounce the first bit properly, either 😉


 
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"He" being...?


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:39 am
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Who is, or was, GW?

A fellow who despite apparently being very reasonable in real life just insulted everyone constantly, backed up with "I'm just telling the truth". He was rather tiresome.

I genuinely never really had cause to dislike TJ though, although his militant anti-helmet stance was amusing.

TSY I liked.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:39 am
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Incidentally, Fred is reading this thread. Hi Fred.

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I'd ask that you be careful making comments about him (or indeed, against any dearly departed) that they cannot respond to, as it would be somewhat unfair.

Granted, they've waived their right of reply when they earned their bans, but still. Please don't antagonise people unduly, we've more interesting things to do than deal with the fallout.

Ta.
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Posted : 12/07/2013 10:39 am
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TJ is/was never an attention whore.


 
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[i]"He" being...? [/i]

well TJ, it's his legacy.


 
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To give TJ his due, we had a 'disagreement' on one of the religion threads (now there's a surprise :lol:), following which he apologised via e-mail. A small thing, granted, but much appreciated at the time.


 
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defense?s=t


 
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I'd ask that you be careful making comments about him (or indeed, against any dearly departed) [s]that[/s] to which they cannot respond [s]to[/s], as it would be somewhat unfair.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:42 am
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Defence is the British spelling, defense is the American.

HTH.


 
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TJ is/was never an attention whore.

^^This^^


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:44 am
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although his militant anti-helmet stance was amusing.

You must be thinking of someone else tbh, TJ was not anti-helmet. In fact, he owned and sometimes wore one when he felt it appropriate.

He was very anti-compulsion, anti "if you don't wear a helmet you're a moron", and pro "being realistic about the risks involved and the effectiveness of helmets". And not at all keen on being told what his opinions were 😉


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:47 am
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[i]Defence is the British spelling, defense is the American.

HTH. [/i]

^this, and hence whoever spells defence 'defense' being also unable to pronounce Edinburgh with any degree of success.


 
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I'd ask that you be careful making comments about him (or indeed, against any dearly departed) [s]that[/s] to which they cannot respond [s]to[/s], as it would be somewhat unfair.

This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put.


 
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Defence is the British spelling, defense is the American.

.... and?

hence whoever spells defence 'defense' being also unable to pronounce Edinburgh with any degree of success.

Amazing. Do you suffer from synaesthesia?


 
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I get really mixed up with American towns whose names come from a British place name. Eg Cheshire in Connecticut - pronounced Che-shire in the US but obviously Chesh-er here.

If I'm referring to the American town called Cheshire, as a Brit, how should I pronounce it? 🙂


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:54 am
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[i]Do you suffer from synaesthesia? [/i]

I can't smell what you're getting at?


 
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I think it's an attempt at providing a live demonstration of the sort of tedious bobbins that gets people banned.

(-:


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:57 am
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Seems some people have forgotten that they were warned about baiting the banned and now try to blame others. 😀


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 10:59 am
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This is the kind of tedious nonsense up with which I will not put.

Speaking of which, could you change the "photos which you are proud of" thread to "photos of which you are proud"?


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:00 am
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Yes, I could.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:05 am
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I raised that on about page 2, Pook 🙂

And not at all keen on being told what his opinions were

But unable to realise that no-one else likes it either 🙂


 
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What about Cheshire?!


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:13 am
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Do you suffer from synaesthesia?

my mum HAS synesthesia*, her memories are based on colours and she by no means suffers 🙂

[* specifically she has Grapheme–colour synesthesia]


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:14 am
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[i]her memories are based on colours[/i]:

She'd be good with the early days of mtb: "I remember when all this was purple"

🙂


 
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Fred Defence Flag Wave

+1.

I had my share of run-ins with Fred - but to be honest I didn't see any harm in it and I often enjoyed the debate, infuriating as it could be.

I've also met him face-to-face over a pint or two and found him to be a perfectly decent chap.


 
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Speaking of which, could you change the "photos which you are proud of" thread to "photos of which you are proud"?

+1, always irritates me, that


 
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or how about just "Photos you're proud of", come to think of it?


 
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She'd be good with the early days of mtb: "I remember when all this was purple"
😀

I just laughed really loudly in my office at that. That elicited a few funny looks...


 
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I wasn't sure if it was a bit too close to home and nearly didn't post so glad you enjoyed it 🙂


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:36 am
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I'm wondering if threads like this are more of a barrier now to newbies feeling like this is the place for them, than the confrontational threads are - I remember when I signed up here one thing that turned me off a bit was references to things "before the hack", "picolax" etc.

How must the forum seem to someone who wasn't on it a year ago when people frequently have multi-pagers, and constant references throughout other threads as well, to "TJ", "Fred" "the bannings" etc?

It does seem a bit like the forum looking up its own arse.


 
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tbh I'd found the earlier synaetheasia jokes funny, i just wanted to correct the 'suffer' bit. I maybe wanted to add a bit of faux contention into the thread and get myself some notoriety


 
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It does seem a bit like the forum looking up its own arse.

True enough - because the world outside STW is nowhere near as fascinating as the debris accumulated within the STW arse!

This is why we encourage noobs to browse the entire chat forum back catalogue before daring to post their own 'witty and amusing thoughts' on here. 😀

The catalogue is filled with comedy gems. And some filler content from TJ, Fred and TSY.

* finally gets the 'Han *' and 'riding *' reference and slaps face *


 
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@edlong were you there for sudocrem cat? thems were the days (looks wistfully out the window)

I do actually agree that it can take a bit of time to pick up the in-jokes but when you do it's quite amusing. There's usually a helpful soul out there who'll fill people in if they ask

anyway

I have no useful contribution to make


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:46 am
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the debris accumulated within the STW arse.

I'll send Patrick some Picolax.


 
Posted : 12/07/2013 11:47 am
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in what circumstances would TJ et al be re-admitted?

Does it really matter ?


 
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[i]Now[/i] you ask?


 
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I'm just thinking - instead of bemoaning the loss of the old big hitter demographic, maybe we should cherish the forum members we have - bearnecessities style.

wwaswas - I can't say your name, but I love you, man.
Captain BashFart - your photo threads are a Friday highlight and your post-its are most becoming.
Philconsequence - you're lovely whenever you're around, plus you like dinosaurs, which is cool.
DezB - despite your dislike of the moustache, I sense great wisdom in you.
Samurai - well, I don't need to say it, do I? You great ball of lovewarmth you.

😆


 
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He was very anti-compulsion, anti "if you don't wear a helmet you're a moron", and pro "being realistic about the risks involved and the effectiveness of helmets". And not at all keen on being told what his opinions were

You know exactly what I mean NW!

wwaswas - I can't say your name, but I love you, man.

IIRC - it comes from him being a former weekend warrior, so it's an abbreviation of "Weekend Warrior As Was", or "Ww-as-was", which is how I always pronounce it in my head. HTH!


 
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sudocrem cat was recent, wasn't it? I definitely saw (and laughed at) that!!


 
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At least he leaves behind him the legacy of: "The Edinburgh Defense".

Have you not considered that this phrase was used to attack him and part of the bullying/goading and provoking that he put up with?
I accept he did not help himself but bullies often pick victims because of how they react but that does not make it their fault
He occasionally got personal after enough provoking like that Hilarious phrase used to ridicule him.
there was no malice

Still not getting any reason for TSY apart from Solo I never really read anyone have a bad word to say about him tbh and there are none on this thread

It does seem a bit like the forum looking up its own arse.

You never reminisce with your friends about funny things that happened in the past or friends you no longer see or that bike ride when we etc

Everyone does it


 
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Just had a look at STW Argues and it's how I imagined a big hitter or old shut in a room arguing with themselves until they are right....

It's weeeeird on there... Like when John Malkovich goes through the portal in Being John Malkovich...

I always thought synesthesia would be a cool thing to experience, even if only briefly. I want days of the week to have colours, and food to have sounds!


 
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You never reminisce with your friends about funny things that happened in the past or friends you no longer see or that bike ride when we etc

Everyone does it

Yeah, I get that, and I've read the picolax thing and found it funny (but I imagine it was much funnier appearing "live" rather than read as a complete document afterwards) but that isn't what happens with the TJ thing is it?

It's always about re-opening the arguments about whether he should have been banned, whether the people who used to wind him up should have been banned as well or instead of him, and whether the forum is a better or worse place for the banning(s). EDIT: And some comments about whether the mods are too harsh, too slack, about right, inconsistent, and whether they should publicly explain / justify their decisions.

Be honest, is there anything in this five page thread that we've not already had, several times?


 
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Not AFAIK


 
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who or what is TJ??


 
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a google search for 'tandemjeremy' will probably give a good overview 🙂


 
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who or what is TJ??

An apparently top bloke in real life, who knew lots about bikes and other stuff, but who couldn't help getting into endless, pointless arguments on here (encouraged / goaded by others) until eventually he got permanently banned, along with some other users.


 
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@Cougar/Drac

could we have a sticky thread with the links to some all time classic threads for noobs like i was/still am to learn about STW?

Or would that take the fun out of things like Picolax where i wasn't there first time round, found it from peoples references and nearly cried myself to death laughing at it


 
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omg what a minger.

Any chance we can see your beautiful form and comment on it or will you call us all out for being sexist and tell us that is why you hate men?


 
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