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[Closed] If you dont understand Pink Floyd....

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...You dont understand music.

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Posted : 15/12/2009 5:07 pm
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Understand? They're a band, end of story. You either like them or not. That's all there is to understand.......

Anything else is just pretentious waffle


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:08 pm
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...you are probably not over 50!


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:10 pm
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If you like any post 70's Floyd, you don't understand music ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:10 pm
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I would say that an understanding of Bach is more important musically.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:11 pm
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Posted : 15/12/2009 5:12 pm
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Pink Floyd IMHO are rubbish. I've never got them - ever. And I've tried - all my mates were/are right into them but I thought they were rotten.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:13 pm
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I don't understand music but I like the noise it makes.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:13 pm
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what the Cpt said. I would have a track of each on Desert Island discs i preferplaying Bach to Floyd on guitar.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:19 pm
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Pink Floyd are (were) good if you have the required length of attention span...


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:29 pm
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I am with PeterPoddy - nothing clever or intelligent required to understand [b]any [/b]music. Personally I love Pink Floyd. I also like Robbie Williams and have seen Steps live. I also like listening to some classical music (although not an expert), blues, punk, metal and some hip-hop.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 5:47 pm
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grynch

I see your sad puppy and behalf of all those who claim to "understand" music rather than enjoy it, I raise you a dead kitten

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Posted : 15/12/2009 5:59 pm
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and have seen Steps live
oh, and you were doing so well up to there ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:00 pm
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I saw steps live completely against my will in a desert in Egypt.
I remember the crowd chanting "STARFISH STARFISH STARFISH" at H.
It was mostly 3 commando brigade and it was made a non-exemption parade after everyone said they didn't want to go, they even bribed us with beer!
Happy days!


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:01 pm
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I could just as easily say that anyone who doesn't understand the Cheeky Girls doesn't understand music.

Doesn't make either statement right.

PP's spot on. Nothing takes the enjoyment out of music more than people who take it seriously. My pet hate in my clubbing days was people who hated anything remotely mainstream for the simple reason that it was popular and didn't fit in with their idea of self proclaimed 'people who know/understand good music' and would sit out anything not cool enough for them like the killjoys that they really were.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:02 pm
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oh, and you were doing so well up to there

In my defence I was given the ticket but it was okay - good stage sets and quite entertaining. The high pitched constant screaming like some kind of mass harpie wail was most disconcerting though.

And the crowd were noisy too... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:19 pm
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Imho, If you do understand or care about Pink Floyd, you're probably a fan of a technically competent,pretentious and ultimately dull dad rock band.

Frankly they bore me to death, and my tastes are musically quite varied and I play a number of instruments really quite well.:)


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:33 pm
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After Syd they grew increasingly sterile sounding with pompous and self-indulgent lyrical pretentions. If the OP's correct I'm proud to be ignorant.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:51 pm
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seen them loads of times all over Europe and think they are well over rated to be honest!


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 6:54 pm
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I prefer later Pink Floyd and don't particularly like Pink floyd with Syd Barrett.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 7:00 pm
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Dad Rock


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 7:02 pm
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Saw them in 1972, have since seen Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters. I didn't "get them" then and I don't "get them" now.

I would however say that "prog rock" was a really exciting time for music although, to be fair, a lot of it was pretentious tosh. Triple concept album from Yes anyone? Rick Wakeman presenting "Journey to the Centre of the Earth"?

Mind you, arguably King Crimson were the most innovative. In fact I still listen to them, as well as Yes plus other assorted bands.

In some ways, you had "to be there" ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 9:20 pm
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arguably King Crimson were the most innovative. In fact I still listen to them, as well as Yes plus other assorted bands.

King Crimson were definitely innovative. Although I missed them in the height/depths of their 70s splendour I've long loved Gong, Hawkwind, various German 70s bands and so on. But never Floyd. Similarly, and more recently, Porcupine Tree. Technically magnificent but they just leave me cold.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 10:55 pm
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The missing ingredient is soul/passion - call it what you will. These days I need to be moved by music. God I'm getting old ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:15 pm
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These days I need to be moved by music. God I'm getting old

Hell, no. Old is when you're admiring fretwork over the sound of your soul singing along.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:21 pm
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Hawkwind? Roadies that tried to play.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:25 pm
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I make a living from music, and I don't really get what's so amazing about Pink Floyd. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:25 pm
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Hell, no. Old is when you're admiring fretwork over the sound of your soul singing along

8)


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:26 pm
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I like some of their music, some of it is pretentious nonsense. There's nothing to "Understand" though.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:31 pm
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try the strum pattern for "mother", its hard. also "i wish you were " is my fav. Quite morbid and depressing but i always make sure i have a positive head on when i listen.
impossible to generalise, each song is different. imho


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:35 pm
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I make a living from music, and I don't really get what's so amazing about Pink Floyd

So what? Does that make you any more qualified to decide on musical merit than someone who works in Sainsburys? If you know what you like does it matter if you can play music or in some other way derive income from it.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:44 pm
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I was in a band that covered See Emily Play. Quite a good song that.
Dark Side of the Moon, though. Gotta be one of the most overratted albums ever. Just dull.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:48 pm
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Floyd really only got pretentious when Roger Waters' ego took over the band. Up to that point there was a lot of light and shade, with a fair amount of humour, albeit fairly dark humour. 'Arnold Lane', anyone? A song about a bloke who gets off on nicking women's knickers off of washing lines. If you don't understand the period of time that Floyd originate from, fine, but don't ever call music rubbish just because you, personally don't 'get' it.


 
Posted : 15/12/2009 11:56 pm
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Xipe - agree about Roger Waters and his ego. But I'm not calling it rubbish.

(whispers 'I don't get X Factor or any of that stuff but do call it rubbish') ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:07 am
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So what? Does that make you any more qualified to decide on musical merit than someone who works in Sainsburys?

Well the suggestion in the OP was if you don't understand Pink Floyd you don't understand music. I would suggest that in order to make a living out of music you probably need some understanding of it (I also have a degree in music + multimedia arts), but I still don't understand what's so great about Pink Floyd.

There was also a smiley as I was being slightly facetious.

If you don't understand the period of time that Floyd originate from, fine

I've also got a degree in history ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:14 am
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Doesn't matter how many degrees in pop music you have, Grumm. It's all about how many hairs stand up on the back of your neck when you listen to it.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:19 am
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Doesn't matter how many degrees in pop music you have, Grumm. It's all about how many hairs stand up on the back of your neck when you listen to it.

I agree and in my case it's precisely none when listening to Pink Floyd. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of the claim in the OP. Liking slightly dull prog rock doesn't mean you understand anything in particular.

PP summed it up pretty well really.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:25 am
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PP summed it up pretty well really.

Totally agree.

FWIW I still ask myself 'what would Syd do' when I have a difficult decision to make at work. I guess I may be in the minority there. Pink Floyd were never the same after he left.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:52 am
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LOL you might as well say the same crap about The Who LOL and the
Beatles LOLOLOL


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 12:57 am
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isn't all of Pink Floyd's music about mental health problems? I'd argue you actually need a mental health problem to 'get' their music.

Saying that, I like some of their songs now and we played lots of then during my younger drug and sex enhanced days when they all seemed to make a lot of sense but they go on a bit too long for me now.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 1:36 am
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Why? Why? Why?

Why do you need to idolise them? Are they god like now?

All music are shite except ABBA & Bee Gees.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:08 am
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chewkw... but let's not forget the Starland Vocal Band.
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Posted : 16/12/2009 8:51 am
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Its surely as simple as: If you like it its good. If you don't like its cr*p.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:30 am
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Whatever, it's still OLD.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:46 am
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Excellent, more opinions parroted from Q magazine. So Pink Floyd are the zenith of 20th Century music? I take it the OP is some kind of authority wh has checked out checked out every band or recording artist, from every possible corner of the globe, diligently researching and uncovering forgotten gems from every continent? Or do you just have fond memories of your older brother's cool mate playing it as you smoked your first ever spliff in some suburban semi? ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:49 am
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But I do understand them - they're just s**t.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:50 am
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you won't understand pink floyd unless you spent your teenage years smoking lots of dope in your mates bedroom & thinking this is the coolest thing ever. Then you grow up and realise it's fairly dull.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:58 pm
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Lobby_dosser - LSD was the required drug if you wanted to "get" Pink Floyd.

Then you grow up and realise it's fairly dull, but have the flash backs to help you remember just how dull.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 6:24 pm
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LSD was the required drug if you wanted to "get" Pink Floyd.

What a waste of acid.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 8:19 pm
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[quoteWhat a waste of acid.

agreed


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:55 pm
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now there's ^ one I don't understand - why are abba so popular?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 10:58 pm
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[i]why are abba so popular?[/i]

Answer is in the question. It's POP innit.


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 12:15 am
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Floyd is for intellectuals ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 12:24 am
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ABBA have nice tune & voice.

Whereas Pink Floyd thinks they are god sent.

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Posted : 17/12/2009 12:40 am
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Of course! It's prog rock dontchaknow. You had to be there ...


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 12:43 am
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i do understand the etymology of the word, but why?


 
Posted : 17/12/2009 12:56 am