MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
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If not why not? We can stop Simon Cowell but we have to stand together!
I can't remember the last time I bought a song & I'm not going to start again now [& it's crap]
besides - it'll take more than an internet campaign to stop Cowell
Uplink fair enough you might not like it, but do you want music that original and interesting and unique ever again?
I don't buy singles but I have bought this, its more than a campaign stand up for your right to a say in what is and isn't good music!
but do you want music that original and interesting and unique ever again?
If I've told you once, I've told you a million times - don't exaggerate 😀
Is it not a bit early for next week's chart? 😕
[i]We can stop Simon Cowell but we have to stand together! [/i]
Simon Cowell works for Sony.
RATM are on which label? erm.....
[i]If not why not? We can stop Simon Cowell but we have to stand together! [/i]
Sadly, the people who started this campaign didn't do their research very well. Cowell owns the rights to the Rage song as well so he's laughing either way.
I just bought it, twice. Don't buy from Amazon as it's only 29 pence and it has to cost 40 pence or more to count.
Details of what counts here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/18g8l
A number of people have pointed out to me that Sony wins either way - is that right?
Cowell owns the rights to the Rage song as well so he's laughing either way.
Really? Can you point me to the info? I just thought the link was via Sony BMG...
I'm not really that bothered about what makes it to number one. Getting to number one is about being mainstream, not necessarily about good music - it's always been that way - Simon Cowell wasn't responsible for Mr Blobby for example.
Funny how everyone goes on about what a villain Simon Cowell is though, yet 19 million people watched the final - that's not far off a 1/3 of the population with 10 million people voting. Those sort of viewing figures are pretty much unheard of these days.
The number one will be the song that most people like. That’s what being number one is all about.
A number of people have pointed out to me that Sony wins either way - is that right?
Yes.
Remember, kids, that the self titled music "industry" is just that - it's a means of making money and that's it.
Buying Killing in the Name because you were a sulky teemnager in '92, and you don't "get" the fact that pop music hasn't actually changed, even with X-Factor, doesn't mean you're standing against The Man.
It just means you should actually go and listen to some new music. So, here are my instructions:
1. Go to your nearest independent record shop (no, Fopp doesn't count)
2. Ask them what's new and good at the moment
3. Say "no, it's OK, I don't need to listen to that
4. Go home and enjoy the excitement of having no idea whether meoldic acid folk is actually going to be your thing
5. Be pleased you had a mini adventure, suppoirted someone you've never heard of, and haven't got all hot and bothered about making major labels money
my 15 year old daughter insists she is marrying the xfactor winner. so if you all don't mind let him have at least one No 1 - i'd like to know that my pathetic whimpering weedy future son in law is as loaded as possible, so I can gain from a few caribbean holidays before she dumps him when he comes out. Ta.
F*ck you I won't do what you tell me.
also, the campaign should have picked something decent to buy, not some random shite from years ago, that wasn't even good when it was released.
I can't help thinking that last time there was a sweary number one, it was excised from the charts in a panic and the number two was played instead. The establishment REALLY WAS worried.
Johnny was attacked and arrested for it, as I recall...
Rage Against "Tidying my room" indeed...
if its good enough for brant richards its good enough for me
I don't like the idea of being told to buy the RATM single, plus I always thought it was a bit of a silly song anyway.
Why not join the Facebook group to [url=
Jedward to cover it instead[/url]?
totally confused by this
back in the late 80s / early 90s when I was growing up Kylie and Jason seemed to be permanently no 1
back in the 70s it was Shawodey woddy or whoever
there was still good music available/ there still is
nothing has changed - who cares? Its not like RATM have ever got to number 1 in the past is it. Simon Cowell doesn't care, its just more publicity for him. Just ignore it FFS. Or get worked up about something that actually matters
stand up for your right to a say in what is and isn't good music!
OK, i won't buy either song then!
Sony know what they're doing, who started this alternative No1? why RATM?
think about it....
I've downloaded it illegally does that count ???
back in the 70s it was Shawodey woddy or whoever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen_%28Sex_Pistols_song%29
F*ck you I won't do what you tell me.
Quite.
I'm creating a pub quiz at the moment and i thought i'd do a round focusing on all the good songs that were prevented from being christmas number 1 by some random novelty record - turns out that the number 2's (ho ho ho) are pretty crappy too - we just want to buy rubbish at christmas, or feel guilty about spending too much money on ourselves so buy some charity song.
I guess I'd rather the x factor wasn't a shoe in every year, but the campaign could have used any song they wanted - preferably a charity song for a smaller charity something like that or selected some unsigned band who need a break.
So for my bit, saw these guys over the summer - http://www.myspace.com/healthymindscollapse
kind of scottish new grunge - something like that?? anyway they were by far and away the best young band (all under 20 i think) i have ever seen.
Read this:
[url] http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=10&title=why_luke_lewis_is_wrong_you_should_make_&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 [/url]
I've already got it, on single and album from when it first came out. Fudged if I'm buying old tat, just for a vain attempt to disrupt a very meaningless chart.
God, don't I sound grumpy 🙁
By the way, I also wrote, yes wrote! to the BBC when the Late Show played a bleeped out version of Killing in The Name.
They replayed it un-bleeped, so I won!
I don't think I give enought of a sh*t to spend 69p on Rage Against The Machine who I think are crap anyway.
especially when thats 40p over the odds. you wanna brush up your shopping skills mate.
>who started this alternative No1
I think it (or another one) actually stated out as 'download Journey and f*** x-factor' - earlier on it appeared that the x-factor winner would get to do Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'".
(I caught a bit of the 'Queen' edition of x-factor a few weeks ago, and mebbe one or two did a half decent take, the rest were pretty crap)
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/journey-song-to-be-ruined-by-x-factor-numpty/
To be fair, the guy doesn't make a bad attempt if you look at the youtube footage, but it's a bit weedy compared to the original IMO.
Jond. I'd just like to say that your post above is completely bizarre.
How about, Just buy a track from an artist you like, and not get our collective knickers in a twist about it?
The group seems to have disappeared.
Either it's getting hammered or Cowell's getting worried and is flexing some media might about...
I've bought the RATM track because firstly I don't like the idea that SyCo now seem to own the Christmas #1 slot and have first refusal on who they give it to, and secondly whichever song makes it will be unavoidable. So if I am to have one song continually played on TV and radio over the Christmas period then let it be something a bit different.
yep its dissapeared, might be some rules about chart eligibility
although when you consider xfactor is 1 big advert for the singles thats not really fair
or cowell has swung his legal team into action
would it have happened on myspace?- owned by newscorp and considering the sun pretty much exists on its reality tv content
The group seems to have disappeared.
What do you mean?? Is it not going to be in the charts now?
the facebook group has gone
http://theglobalherald.com/facebook-shut-rage-against-the-machine-for-christmas-number-1-group/1329/
hmmm
I had the misfortune to hear the Xfactor winner lad ( don't know his name) singing a load of durge earlier on the radio.
At around about his age I was pogoing and listening to the lastest toons, not, being forced to push out something my granny would ( at a push - she had good taste) like.
Me and the kids were listening to the XFactor lads song on Moyles going to school this morning.
We found it was possible to sing Peter Kay's "Geraldine's" Winners Song with the keychanges and progression matching perfectly. 😉
Backup group here:
as i said before x-factor =
"Ball-less, souless, spiritless corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them."
bill hicks we miss you!
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a lot of people saying amazon doesnt count as its under 69p,
wtf isnt that price fixing
the machine should be raged against
"Ball-less, souless, spiritless corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them."
Other forms of entertainment are available. I'm guessing you're more of a New Kids on the Block man? 🙂
hangin tough for me
[i]being forced to push out something my granny would ( at a push - she had good taste) like. [/i]
That has just caused one of the vilest images to spring up in my mind.
i think i saw that on the internet once
No, I got the album when it first came out years ago and think the charts are just a load of bollocks and can't be arsed to waste 69 pence on something i've already got.
I have bought my copy 😀
kill everybody
who cares? I mean really, does it really matter what sh*tty song is at the top of a meaningless chart. Get a life man
Amazon just paid for my copy 🙂
[i]The Facebook Group, which implores its members to buy Rage Against the Machine’s “Killing in the Name” rather than X Factor winner, Joe McEldenny’s track “The Climb” in the week preceding the Christmas chart[/i]
Didn't realise it was a choice of one or the other. Now I'm torn.
Bought it yesterday, but I fear it will all be in vain when the little fella's cd single comes out tomorrow! Also bought bullet in the head while I was at it - I've always wanted them just never got round to buying them. 8)
Funny how everyone goes on about what a villain Simon Cowell is though, yet 19 million people watched the final - that's not far off a 1/3 of the population with 10 million people voting. Those sort of viewing figures are pretty much unheard of these days.
Stalin would have loved Cowell on his side....opiate of the masses indeed. Heads down, don't question, keep quiet.
Grab a pen / guitar / sampler....make your own music and publish on the web for free 🙂
I have bought a copy and dontaed some £££ to Shelter...they were at £17k last night!
SSP
Bassist, Canary Trap.
But seriously wtf is the climb??? I heard it yesterday and was stunned. That is the best they can come up with after 800days of x factoring??? People will buy it as there are umpteen thousands of mindless sheep out there. I sometimes think there is mind control a foot on these idiotic reality tv shows. *Goes off to put foil hat on.
Oh and back on topic I would love it if ratm got to no.1 as it would just be funny that's all.
Already got the RATM album, (Fopp, several years ago), so I might go with Lauren Lavern's suggestion and get Sufjan Steven's chrimbo offering instead. This time next year noone will remember who won X-Factor 2009.
Just checked here: [url= http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas ]Shelter RATM donation page[/url]
£33k! How much was Cowell going to donate from his single?
Spend £0.79p on the download, then donate £3 to Shelter. Everyones happy...except Simon 🙂
SSP
[i]This time next year noone will remember who won X-Factor 2009[/i]
Happily, I don't even know [i]now[/i]
bought it, who cares if it's meaningless 69p seems less than a paid for some bike stuff that turned out to be crap, cheap investment for some social science of groups crowds and public opinion
Weirdly not only is Killing In the Name top single on iTunes, but Rage Against the Machine is top in the album chart too - are people really hearing the single for the first time and then buying the album?
SinglespeedpunkStalin would have loved Cowell on his side.
Ahh! a sense of perspective as always by the STW massive. This is music/entertainment we're talking about and your introducing a man responsible for the death of millions of people in to the conversation 🙄
People have the right to buy / watch whatever the **** they want without people like you getting all sanctimonious about it. I don't particularly like the stuff that emanates from the X factor but I appreciate that some people do.
One of my all time fave bands. It's a good pick as it'll never get radio play either.
Bass player Timmy C is a HUUUGE mountain biker too....
When RATM first came out, I couldn't play it in the car. I'd just drive so aggressively (even more than normal). Might give it another go, later in the week.
It's my wake-up ringtone - puts me in a great mood to start work 😈
Do you remember the f**t t-shirts done in the style of a ford badge?
Why?
Is there any way to monitor the current sales figures for the two singles?
ignoring for the fact it's a lousy song, does anyone actually think this is going to work?
the people buying this song are going up against professional retards. The sort of person who has spent the past 6 months or however long the f*cking X factory has been on TV, wasting money voting for one warbling bint or another. As if they're going to let 'their choice' be beaten to number 1 by a bunch of angry men in black T-shirts?
In the end...does it really f*cking matter what is Christmas no 1? Who actually listens to the hit parade once they're over 15?
i've already got the RATM track, it's an exellent "driving to the trails" track
ah, memories of 5 helmet clad idiots in a car headbanging to that at the traffic lights scaring the pensioners out for a sunday drive 😳
bumpty bump.
Will be buying my copy shortly.
Just bought it. I just like the idea of not having an X-Factor No1 this year for a change. 🙂
EDIT
It's the best thing about downloads in the charts IMO. If people want to buy a track for whatever reason, and enough of them do, it will chart. We can't be spoon fed by the marketing to the same extent any more. All good, IMO 🙂
Bass player Timmy C is a HUUUGE mountain biker too....
And a bit of a rock star diva too
http://www.site.hbcutthecoursein1990.com/We_want_it_for_free.html
I'd not realised that the X-factor song was a cover of a Miley Cyrus hit. That's hilarious.
Do you remember the f**t t-shirts done in the style of a ford badge?
I used to have one of them - parents wouldn't let me wear it. Also later had a t-shirt with 'Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin To **** With' on the back that they made me blank out with a marker pen. 👿
i had this one
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RATM are ahead by a 5 figure amount today.