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Re part 1, “it begins” on the poster is a bit of a clue.
I thought it was stunning. Proper adult sci if which didn’t feel the need for loads of exposition. I’ve not read it since I was a teen but seemed true to the story and visualised in a way that felt right to me
Harry Potter: Desert Storm.
The sound design was very poor and I agree with Cha****ng's perfume advert comment. Read the first book ages ago, didn't hate it but it's not that interesting really.
Another nice little detail I spotted that was kind of in the book (implied I think); if you fire up argee's YT video, and go to 11 seconds in- the figures daubing blood on new Sardaukar are BG.
The Missionaria Protectiva get everywhere 🙂
Well I absolutely loved it
(caveat I'm a huge fan of the books - the first 6 anyway- & the lynch film)
It looked glorious, sound was a bit overbearing in places (clichéd desert/Arabic female singing) but I had no problem with hearing what was said
Atredies were all superbly cast, leads were great
Leto , Paul, gurney, Duncan, Jessica, didn't see much mentat action not sure about thufir
Was unsure about Keynes, but ended up liking the switch
Batusta was great as Drax/Raban, but as with harkonens in general 12 rating prevented them from being too horrific
Skarsgard seemed to be channeling Brando/colonel Kurtz
Liked Peter devries, but not much screen time but no one is Brad Dourif
Salusa Secundus and the sardaukar were brilliant, getting some strong warhammer 40k vibes
Did I say it looked gorgeous?
No way did it feel as long as it runs, I'd love to have seen more
Infact I'm gutted I have to wait 2? years to see the sequel and I'm sad that I'll never see Villeneuves vision of the later books: the Bene Tleilax or the Ixians
But excited to see what the Navigators & lovely Feyd are like
Read the books. Really love the Lynch movie. (The US edit is almost funny)
For me this remake was average and frustrating. So much character development lost with too much time spent on watching a girl walk in the sand. A dumbing down - Hollywood pap.
Feyd-Rautha won't be in the sequel. This version has (sensibly) dispensed with him and focused on Rabban instead. On re-reading the book it really struck me how little Rabban is actually involved in the action, he's mostly mentioned by other characters talking about him off doing this or that. In this movie he's front and centre as an antagonist and it works a lot better movie-wise in my opinion.
I really enjoyed it as entertainment.
Matrix and Ghostbusters reboots next (how good does Carrie Anne Moss look?)
Watched it last night at home with a mate.
Neither of us had read the books, and we sort of remembered the one with Sting in it, but our memories were so vague that we could have well been remembering scenes from Flash Gordon or Star Trek Wrath of Khan.
I enjoyed it a lot, it was handy having a 2nd person to help follow the plot, like others have said, the sound was hard for my middle-aged ears to separate the dialog from Hanz Zimmerman.
There's not a lot of story crammed into 2.5 hours, but it flew by.
I might watch it again in a couple of months, I'm sure I missed loads of it.
So much character development lost with too much time spent on watching a girl walk in the sand.
I think this reflects my thoughts too.
Definitely seems to have got a more-enthusiastic reception from the fans than from neutrals.
I did definitely enjoy it, but having then gone back to the David Lynch version it’s not really a patch on it. Somehow the original managed to get more in about the actual story than the new one which had twice as much time to tell us but somehow managed not to. Most of the characters are so much more bland in the new version.
I loved it.
I'm a big sci fi fan but have never read Dune and only remember patches of the Lynch film so came in fresh.
I like the pacing, grand sci fi needs room to breathe.
Here's hoping for more than just 1 sequel.
1 question - Are the big tube structures motherships or inter galactic gateways of some form?
1 question – Are the big tube structures motherships or inter galactic gateways of some form?
Heighliner? Fly your ships in, guild navigator gets wasted on spice & folds space. Before you know it you're a million miles from where you started.
“Get them to stand about in the pissing rain while some blokes slowly work their way round smearing them with blood?”
You could argue the rain was to deliberately contrast with the desert they would be going to...
guild navigator gets wasted on spice & folds space
I was a bit disappointed that we didn't get to see DV's interpretation of what a guild navigator would look like, I know they're not "central" to the story but it would've been cool to see.
You could argue the rain was to deliberately contrast with the desert they would be going to…
salus secundus is supposed to be the imperial prison planet, the conditions are so harsh and brutal that they produce warriors as tough as the fremen who live on their own harsh brutal planet
guild navigator gets wasted on spice & folds space
I was a bit disappointed that we didn’t get to see DV’s interpretation of what a guild navigator would look like, I know they’re not “central” to the story but it would’ve been cool to see.
A bit confusing this, during the sequence on Caladan where they hand over power to the Atredies, there are 5 humanoids in big robes & glass helmets filled with orange gas. When I saw it first I thought these were the Navigators, but the Emperor's herald chap says the party has 3 representatives from the Guild of Navigators with it. So maybe these 5 are trainee navigators and the 3 main ones are up in the heighliner still, having been completely mutated from the Spice and unable to walk about any more.
saw it on Friday, wow what a ride, okay I was a little bit worse for wear and somebit I felt like i was just holding on (it was very big and very loud), need to watch it again when I'm a little more compus
I see where they got that chant from...
Disappointed. It was not up to the standard of the Blade Runner sequel or Arrival. Too much dwelling on billowing in the wind and the sound/score is a bit generic and samey, like it was produced from one sample pack in a copy and paste that'll do manner.
saw it last night,
don't watch in a odeon, if its like the odeon near me, the film ends up with black bars top and bottom. What happened to the days when the cinema screen would change ratio to fit the film. I found it very distracting.
as for the film, it was enjoyable, but felt like a trailer stretched out to film length. Very little character development for any characters other than the protagonist.
Went to see it again and still enjoyed it....but...having read the book,I would have had them spend a bit more time on how important preserving and reclaiming water is to the Fremen,they could have added some details of that in to Paul's fight with Jamis.
When Paul and his mother are lost in the dessert,in the book this is a big change in power between them and she starts to fear what he will become.They just skipped over this in the film.
Finally,the Baron is a cruel,scheming and manipulative monster,they could have used some of the sand gazing time to build this up a bit more.
As said already,a mini series would probably be the only way to get all the detail in.
Will be interesting to see where part 2 goes.
So much character development lost with too much time spent on watching a girl walk in the sand.
I think this reflects my thoughts too.
Definitely seems to have got a more-enthusiastic reception from the fans than from neutrals.
Although ironically I think the groupies of whatever the walking-in-sand actress is called were upset at how little screentime she got!
I would have had them spend a bit more time on how important preserving and reclaiming water is to the Fremen
as someone who hasn't read the books, I thought this was well explained with the stillsuits, the tent and discussion on getting water from the dead
edit
bummer, that didn't work!
When Paul and his mother are lost in the dessert,in the book this is a big change in power between them and she starts to fear what he will become.They just skipped over this in the film.
They didn't want to over-egg the pudding. ;D
LETN have just brought out a Dune inspired T shirt!
I'll hopefully be getting one for Xmas...
https://www.lastexittonowhere.com/catalogue/atreides_15412/
Seen it this afternoon, absolutely beautiful, good to concentrate on the story and still a bit bonkers.
I'm sure it'll be great (and I'll be in the cinema watching), but I didn't think that's the greatest trailer? I'm sure there'll be 1 or 2 more before release though
Just reminded me of this 😀
https://www.theonion.com/dune-part-two-to-pick-up-right-where-viewers-fell-as-1850378546
I thought the trailer was really good, can't wait...
I’m sure it’ll be great (and I’ll be in the cinema watching), but I didn’t think that’s the greatest trailer? I’m sure there’ll be 1 or 2 more before release though
Yeah, I'd agree with that
I’m sure it’ll be great (and I’ll be in the cinema watching)
I'll be in the cinema just because I saw the first one but I'm expecting to be similarly underwhelmed.
Is anyone else reminded of Garrard from Peep show?
Looking damn good. It’ll be the last trailer i watch as just a nice level of tease.
I had to have that Peep Show test done a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely horrid experience.
Thought the trailer was a bit meh. Not bad, just meh.
Loved the look and cinematography of Dune 1, but I'm a total fan boi of the book and knew what was going on.
I can see how the hard of thinking and ADD types that don't like to pay attention would think it was crap without the knowledge that is inferred.
I mean. Sci-fi battles with swords? Where's the 'pew-pew lasers'?
Excellent,excited 😃
I can’t wait. I love the book, and thought the (new) movie was absolutely awesome.
Barry Norman on the Lynch film: The only film where the hero rides into battle on a worm.
I can see how the hard of thinking and ADD types that don’t like to pay attention would think it was crap without the knowledge that is inferred.
Well about time that those of us with an attention span greater than the time it takes to blink were given something to watch.
Watched 6 Underground the other night. Dreadful and I say that as someone who generally likes a bit of flippant Ryan Reynolds ott crazy nonsense to eat some sweets to.
Looking forward to this. Love the book. Really enjoyed this film version.
Watched 6 Underground the other night. Dreadful and I say that as someone who generally likes a bit of flippant Ryan Reynolds ott crazy nonsense to eat some sweets to.
I couldn't actually watch that. I could feel myself getting stupider and turned it off!