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I seem to have an attention span of about 15 minutes for learning a song.

I was told to break a song into its various sections and learn from the back first so you are always working towards bits you know.
Worked for a while then I just got over it and a switch clicked in my mind..
I follow Sophie Lloyd on YouTube (who wouldn't?) and I got a lot of motivation and theory tips from her videos and theory is the bit my mind glazes over... Her "3 notes per string" video made me think a bit more before just rattling away.
Mary Spender also seems a very competent teacher.
And I'm enjoying the 'instructional' stuff from Larkin Poe of late.


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 11:41 am
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I was told to break a song into its various sections and learn from the back first so you are always working towards bits you know.

Not tried that, got to be worth a go!

This year was to be the year I finally got some lessons. Covid has put paid to that (I don't want to do video lessons)


 
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I tried to be Mike McCready in Mad Season this morning but sound nothing like him

You do, I listened to the live version because it's the first time I'd heard that song, and it's definitely the same intro. Not easy to reproduce the studio version as the man proves himself live.

That's a great thing about live music, people aren't looking for perfection, they're looking for an atmosphere, passion, life, entertainment. Some bands are very good at simplifying songs to the point they can play them faultlessly every time yet all the feel of the orignal is in there. Watch Billy Gibbons playing Sharp Dressed Man in a recent live vid, much simplified yet you still hear what you're expecting.


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 6:12 pm
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You do, I listened to the live version because it’s the first time I’d heard that song, and it’s definitely the same intro.

Blimey, thanks 🙂
I'm going to attempt to smash my 15 minute attention span and learn some more of the song.


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 7:24 pm
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Blue

Or

Red?

Decisions decisions 🤷‍♂️

Edit: links fixed


 
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yeah a tough one page not found vs page not found 🙂


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 7:29 pm
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What colour is your on-stage sparkly outfit? 😊

failing that, match your shoes...


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 7:52 pm
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Anyone looking for a nice Tele? Better sell the house:
https://www.award-session.com/fender_broadcaster.html


 
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If you want one without worn frets, an odd nut, screws sticking way out of the saddles, an odd deck height... you could just sell a bike:

Custom shop Broadcaster


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 1:42 pm
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Collect the set! They're (mostly) all in here... blackguardlogs.com

However, missing from that list is the 1952 Tele owned by Ross Shafer, ex-owner of Salsa - number 1155... Which I've been lucky enough to play. OMG! What a guitar! Stock apart from a brass nut (hey, blame the 70s...) - I've got some nice pics of it somewhere, I'll dig them out...


 
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I'm not keen on relics and that guitar is an example of why; it looks right where the Custom Shop relics look a mess.

I'd want to disinfect it before playing though. 😉


 
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I do like blackguard blondes.

Maybe mine might look a bit aged in 40 years time...

https://flic.kr/p/6X4WJo

Mind you that was taken 12 years ago...


 
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Can I be controversial and say I really don’t like Teles and can’t understand why anyone would want one when the Strat is a better and more versatile guitar? I am saying this as a keen singlespeed rider so I can see the irony but I really can’t see what a Tele offers and over 50 odd years never have.


 
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Oh, and the headstock is ugly too. Not fat Strat headstock ugly but bad across the range since forever.


 
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I've got the blackguard on the previous page and junior has a couple. Mine is a con in that it's thoroughly modern. A 10"-12" compound radius neck with a sort of flattened C shape, double expanding trussrod, N3 noiseless pickups. One of junior's has a Little Thunder in the neck.

The broadcaster type pickups (overwound with thin wire and big magnets) sound great with a clean tube amp but have their issues. I've got some Crel 666 which are ace till I click a pedal at high gain or use a modeling amp on high gain settings. They squeal even when taken out of the guitar (so it's not acoustic feedback it's something electronic), same with De Marzio Twang King.

So you need two blackguards, one with original type pickups and one with lower output single coils or N3/N4/Duncan noiseless. This one sounds lovely, it's junior's 2012 Clasic Vibe through a Mustang 2. Subsequent year models don't sound the same and the latest ones have very different pickups.


 
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Who needs a strat?
https://flic.kr/p/aXoERT

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Can I be controversial and say I really don’t like Teles and can’t understand why anyone would want one when the Strat is a better and more versatile guitar?

A tele through a Princeton is one of the classic guitar sounds.

I don’t like the stuff you like, it leaves me cold tbh (personal taste, we’re all different). A tele is a striped down, bare, honest guitar.

It’s also (imho) a thing of joy and beauty.

I’ve a strat, but can’t feel the same about it as the blonde...


 
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That Broadcaster in the YT link above sounds incredible...

I hear you on the 'Why do people like Teles?' comment, though I think I'm warming to them. Actually no... I've got a couple of Cabronitas - so Filtertron pickups and not at all Tele-like... I've been through a few previously - I did think I wanted a double-bound custom, but realised that they're actually really sharp-edged! And I had a Quarter Pounder pickuped bits and pieces Tele too... I do prefer Strats, though Ross's '52 does have a huge amount of magic to it. (I know what you mean about disinfecting it - I played it in a jam on a warm night and you could feel the grunge rubbing off the back of the neck... seemed appropriate at the time though :-))


 
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Anyone got any idea what this might be?
https://flic.kr/p/2jZJWPT


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 11:07 am
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German? Hoya did some teardrop soundhole jazzers with those ugly block fretboard markers, but I've never seen them at just 5/7/12 before.


 
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https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/440860251018335779/?nic_v2=1a3xvyqR1

Thanks for the detective assignment - I'm reckoning a Goldklang... Or maybe a Voss. German, 1960s... or so.

This neck looks familiar:  https://reverb.com/uk/item/2292495-rare-vintage-voss-archtop-jazz-f-hole-guitar-gima-gitarre-germany-1960


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 11:27 am
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Nice work chipps

And I like those fretboard markings, like d day stripes for guitars 🙂


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 11:30 am
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Hoyer and Voss have that cutout shape but can't find any pictures with same body shape.


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 11:42 am
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Dropped my new Jag off with Rick @ Marvel Guitars this morning for fettle. Have just picked it up again so I can't blame the guitar for my shit playing now 🤣


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 4:35 pm
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My new (old) Squier tele arrived earlier. Its not in bad nick for a 30 year old guitar...


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 6:54 pm
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Like it 🙂


 
Posted : 27/10/2020 7:17 pm
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Blimey, pretty darn spotless. You must be happy with that to say the least.


 
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Yup. Very very happy indeed. Just need to learn to play it now!


 
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Can I be controversial and say I really don’t like Teles and can’t understand why anyone would want one when the Strat is a better and more versatile guitar? I am saying this as a keen singlespeed rider so I can see the irony but I really can’t see what a Tele offers and over 50 odd years never have.

Fiiiiiiight!

1. Strats resonate, it's the trem. They add that glassy sheen which comes from all those symathetic resonances of the trem and springs.
A Jag or Jazzmaster even more so.
It's not wrong or right, it's just different.

2. The control layout.
The Tele controls are pretty much perfectly placed. Strat knobs get in the way, depending how you play.
And no tone control on the bridge? Please.....

Which leads me to....

3 The pickups.
Strat bridge pickups are usually bloody awful. An annoying, high pitched itch in the middle of your head.
Tele bridge pickups are the voice of a sane god.
Yes, Strat neck pickups are heavenly. So put one in a Tele and have the best of both worlds.
In between positions? Fine, stick a Strat middle pickup in there too, if you must.

4. Body shape.
Cats and dogs.
Strats are trying too hard to please. Slippery horrible things - fall off your knee.
Teles are honest. You know where you are with a Tele.
Be honest - if you were fighting off zombies, a Tele would be so much better.

5. Versatility.
Teles have a mellower neck pick up and a more comple and a simply classier bridge pick up.
No contest.

For me, a Tele with a Strat neck pickup, or a Strat with a Tele bridge pickup would be just peachy.
Lowell George had it right.......

Off tomorrow, so me and Mrs S are just about to go and murder some easy Stones and Chuck Berry.
I'll use the Ibanez RG.
It's so much better than either. 😃


 
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OOOOH!.
1. Strats resonate, it’s the trem.
And damn fine it is to. You can always tighten the springs so the bridge is flush to the body. Helps if you break a string as well.

2. The control layout.
The Tele controls are pretty much perfectly placed. Strat knobs get in the way, depending how you play. And no tone control on the bridge? Please…..
Blend in the middle pick up if needed, pick further towards the neck use the volme for tone if playing at higher gain..

3 The pickups.
Strat bridge pickups are usually bloody awful. An annoying, high pitched itch in the middle of your head.
Tele bridge pickups are the voice of a sane god.
Yes, Strat neck pickups are heavenly. So put one in a Tele and have the best of both worlds.
In between positions? Fine, stick a Strat middle pickup in there too, if you must.
Choose your Strat carefully. Mine have been great with the Custom Shop 60s wind and a Seymour JB jnr works well, especially with a Schaller selector switch to auto split it on pos 2.

4. Body shape.
Cats and dogs.
Strats are trying too hard to please. Slippery horrible things – fall off your knee.
Teles are honest. You know where you are with a Tele.
Be honest – if you were fighting off zombies, a Tele would be so much better.
Zombies like my music. I never have to fight them. The body shape is stunning you are wrongetty wrong wrong.

5. Versatility.
Teles have a mellower neck pick up and a more complex and a simply classier bridge pick up. No contest.
Pick ups are easily changed, the out of phase sounds of a good Strat are stunning.

I’ll use the Ibanez RG. It’s so much better differenter than either.

I'll not argue too much with that. Played a Jem once and have had my eye out for one for a while.

🙂


 
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Found out it says Rima in very small letters on the mystery guitar above.
Anyone know of that make?


 
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Are you sure it doesn't say Gima like in the link Chipps posted above?
Can you take a photo and where is the lettering?


 
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Rime means Rhyme in Spanish so could be a model name.


 
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I don't have it, it's one I'm thinking of buying as a little restoration project.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:33 pm
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This is only reference to the name I have found
http://www.girano.de/html/rima.html


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:34 pm
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Confusions abound. The headstock on the Voss looks far closer to your pic. I get the impression in this part of the market a lot of copying 'being inspired by' was going on.


 
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Yea,lots of similarities on my picture and one on the site I linked to though.
Think I will make an offer


 
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5. Versatility.
Teles have a mellower neck pick up and a more complex and a simply classier bridge pick up. No contest.
Pick ups are easily changed, the out of phase sounds of a good Strat are stunning.

On this subject, can someone explain phase to me? I remember it from A-level physics a few (many!) years ago but I can't really understand how it relates to musical instruments. Something to do with how the in-between positions (pos 2 and 4 on a Strat) give you the difference between the two pickups?

This is more confusing since my Baja Tele has a phase switcher on the S1 allowing you to switch in and out of phase when using (either of) the in-between setting(s). Out of phase sounds very thin and weed - Only really good for funky strumming and definitely not what I would use for a chimey Strat lead tone.

What is actually happening?


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 2:49 pm
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It looks interesting and in reasonable nick, keep us updated.

Edit: Again the Voss has the fretting stopping well short of the end of the fingerboard.


 
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The pickups in the Stat are picking up different harmonics from the strings due to the different distances from the bridge. This leads to cancellation of some frequencies and amplification of others.
All found by accident rather than a design feature.


 
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As eddiebaby says - it's not an electrical phase thing to do with the wiring of the pickups, but more to do with where the pickups are in relation to each other and the standing wave of the string. A little like if you're on the neck pickup and play a 5th fret harmonic, no sound comes out of the pickup as it sits right where the node of the standing wave is... so having the two pickups a Strat's distance apart means that some of the string's wave isn't picked up, so you get this (lovely) quacky 'out of phase' sound.


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:28 pm
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While I've got the page open... And seeing as there's a lot of Fender love in here, I want to float my latest though -  I find that I keep looking at Gibson Les Pauls. I've previously had a couple (a Gibson BFG gold-top and a wine-red Studio - oh and a Vintage (the brand) Lemon Drop Peter Green job) and I've sold them all. Something about the weight, the neck join (position and thickness) and that all I did with them was to play Led Zep riffs badly...

However, the band I'm currently playing with is after no-nonsense rock tones, which suggests a humbucker guitar. I mostly have Strats or guitars with P90s or Filtertrons. I _do_ have a PRS, but the other guitarist has a PRS, so I want to go for something a little different... I do have my old bits and pieces 'super' Strat with Floyd and wood-screwed-in pickups and a homemade paint job, but I do keep looking at the new Gibson Tribute Les Pauls. Especially in 'worn white'...

https://58eca9fdf76150b92bfa-3586c28d09a33a8c605ed79290ca82aa.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/gibson-les-paul-special-tribute-humbucker-worn-white-1018973.jp g" alt="" width="800" height="450" />

Any other suggestions to look out for? Apart from a Scorpions-style Explorer of course...


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:36 pm
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Gordon Smith?

I've lost hours speccing up stuff on their website......

https://www.gordonsmithguitars.com


 
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Any other suggestions to look out for?

An SG 😁


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 3:46 pm
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Ooh, I like the look of that Gordon Smith 'No Cut'... Very bluesy!

Er, I've got a P90 SG already, Simon, sorry! *blush*


 
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In the spirit of 'Say What You Play' try a Variax JTV 59.
It is depressingly convincing if you aren't doing an A/B test in a quiet room.
And as there are a lot of haters they go quite cheap.
Of course if you want it just to fill a gap in your heart rather than the band's sound then fill yer boots and that


 
Posted : 28/10/2020 4:12 pm
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I do have a Roland hex-pickupped homemade guitar that I can plug into a GP10S Roland synthy thing and make whatever noises I want, but I guess I'm looking for those rock looks 😉
Plus, the other guitarist also has a GP10... First world issues and all...


 
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335 copy... bloody awkward, esp if sat down... 🤪😚 but def different sound and rawk n roll bonefide
https://flic.kr/p/6WZUCR

Or a Tokai (or FGN) MIJ Less Paul copy...
https://flic.kr/p/gce7No


 
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So i bought this mystery guitar as it was very cheap.
Woman i bought it off had bought it as a decorative piece at some point and was told it was a German from the 50s.
Neck have been reglued (badly) at some point and there is some splits in the body where the metal bracket is screwed on and around the strap attachment. But should be fun trying to restore it.
This is the only markings on it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/83246699@N00/50541805692/in/dateposted-public/


 
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A friend have ID it as a Musima via a 50s guitar forum


 
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+1 on Japanese Tokai Love Rock.
Excellent guitars, I've had one as my #1 since 2003.

~£700 used


 
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+1 on Japanese Tokai Love Rock

Always been a classic. Hard to find these days I thought.


 
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Tokais are fab guitars. I had an early Springy Sound Strat and it was lovely.
Had a couple of Epi Sheratons and never really got on with the size - yet the 339s all seem a bit too diddy. Need something in the middle, size wise. Ibanez John Scofield? Godin Montreal?


 
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https://flic.kr/p/2k1jboQ


 
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Nice goldtop:


 
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As far as semi hollowbodies go, I like the Gibson Midtown. Lovely in Pelham Blue


 
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Nice goldtop

Very much so. I’m struggling to see the ding in the headstock. Looks like it’s never left the house. Very nice guitar.


 
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Wow, consensus on Tokai 😍

Mine was ~650£, MIJ bought over the internet from Richtones. They had about 20-25 different guitars all lovingly photographed in detail and I picked the one I liked the look of best. Wasn’t disappointed. I subsequently replaced the pups with BKP Mules (‘59 PAF ‘replicas’), Jensen oil in paper caps and a lovecraft toggleswitch (as both my Tokais have suffered dodgy ones). I borrowed a mate’s ‘95 Less Paul for a couple months and I think he would have have swapped that for my Tokai (except I wouldn’t have...).

Tokai are difficult to buy new these days (although a guitar shop in Inverness has one on its wall, albeit at 1500£!) which was why I mentioned the FGN. I hummed and heyed over a goldtop, especially when they were on offer at 800£ end of last year... always wanted a goldtop (I ended up getting one of the new Yamaha travel parlour steel acoustics instead)... and I’ve the Loverock already... 🤷🏻‍♀️


 
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I think the Gibson Tributes are great guitars. I won a Les Paul Jnr DC Tribute earlier in the year and despite a few finish issues, hey it's Gibson after all, it plays and sounds great, actually way better than some far more expensive Les Pauls I've played over the years. If you have the chance to try a few I'm sure you'll find a gem.


 
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I got that Gibson Les Paul jr as my first guitar, based on look alone lol

Anyone removed the neck on old acoustic?
The neck of my mystery guitar have been glued on very badly with PVA and would like to try sort it myself and wonder if anyone have any tips


 
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Heat seems to be the recommended advice. Heat gun on low heat, clothes pressing iron with brown paper to prevent scorching etc.


 
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Chipps, if you are ever in Manchester there are a few GS in stock in Forsyths (top floor)

I've got a real hankering for one too... Just a shame (also a good thing for my bank account) there are no lefty ones to try


 
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Oooh I like that steamer of his


 
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Got the neck off, heat gun and lots of wiggling did the trick.
Now time to clean all the old glue out and see if it will fit back on in the right spot as it was totally misaligned before. the action at last fret was 10mm and neck wast not straight, the low E string was not even over the fret board.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/83246699@N00/50544301043/in/dateposted-public/


 
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2. The control layout.
The Tele controls are pretty much perfectly placed. Strat knobs get in the way, depending how you play.
And no tone control on the bridge? Please….

ON my Strat I've removed the volume pot and wired the other two like a Tele. So I don't accidentaly wind the volume off and I can take some of the edge off the bridge pickup without touching the amp. I still accidentally flick the switch sometimes but as the bridge pickup goes through the tone pot the change doesn't shock as much as it did.


 
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Got the neck off, heat gun and lots of wiggling did the trick.
Now time to clean all the old glue out and see if it will fit back on in the right spot as it was totally misaligned before. the action at last fret was 10mm and neck wast not straight, the low E string was not even over the fret board.

Nice work. How straight/twisted is the neck?

ON my Strat I’ve removed the volume pot and wired the other two like a Tele. So I don’t accidentaly wind the volume off

Noo! I need to be able to violin the volume pot!
The worst feature of my JTV59 is the volume pot is out of finger range...


 
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he neck itself is fine, it had just been put on very badly.
so hopefully i can get it back in working order, just need to figure out how to find the right angle etc. but i will worry about that a little later fow now i want to get it sanded down and try and fix the failing gluejoints and a few small cracks where the tailpiece is attached.

Try look at the body upside down and tell me what you think it looks like.


 
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some more tidying of the neck joint.
a bolt had been added but without making sure everything fitted as it should.
the round mark is from where a threaded insert had been added without making room for it, why the neck angle was way off.
Now to figure out how to get it back on.

https://flic.kr/p/2k1KXcH


 
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Somebody made a proper bodge of that.


 
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yep, hope i can find someone who can put it back on for me as its cleaning up nicely overall.

https://flic.kr/p/2k1HVQF


 
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A decent luthier should be able to help. Acoustic neck re-sets are a pretty standard thing with older guitars.


 
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Guess it's time to own up to this being my stage guitar - a 1983 Dean Z with the shrimpfork headstock and a pair of SD Pearly Gates humbuckers.
My Tokai is a better guitar, but this looks the tits.


 
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That is sweet looking and i usually do not like those "weird" shapes.

Hope your right Hero, i have send some pictures to a Luthier and asked him if he can do it.
The local one to me only do setups these days to busy to do stuff like this.


 
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All these beautiful guitars!

Puts shame to my £99 chinese no name jalopy!


 
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I’m sure a lot of you will have seen this on Paul David’s YouTube feed but listening to 10 different guitarists talking their approach to an 8 bar solo was pretty cool to me.


 
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Just out of interest, Pro Solo in Burnley have just become a Tokai dealer.

They will be stocking some of the Chinese guitars but will be able to order the Japanese models on request.
Bought a few guitars from them and Paul is an excellent bloke to deal with.

Apparantly Tokai have a new UK distributor so should be much easier to get hold of from now on.

Arse. 🙂


 
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a pair of SD Pearly Gates humbuckers.

I've got a pair of those in a black top Tele. Excellent through a Marshall JCM. They're splittable but don't have the grunt of a normal Tele bridge pickup when split.


 
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I don't actually like them that much - they're decent but a bit muddy.

My favourite pickup is a GFS Dream 90 - a HB sized P90 - just lovely, and cheap too!


 
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That Dean Explorer is ace! I still have an idle desire for (another, I sold the last one) Explorer... Although the new Fender Meteora fits the 'quirky big slab guitar' bill too...


 
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