[Closed] Getting a bit heated on STW FB page - guns content

It's never worth reading comments under a Facebook post. 😉

There's a Facebook page?

Nothing is worth going on Facebook. And if I want a lively comments section I love a Pinkbike thread.

There's a magazine too, apparently.

ooh! What font do they use?

I'm collecting if anyone wants to amnesty their BSA light roadsters

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Facebook?.....never visited it apart from attempts to sort out my mothers account as she is rather impatient and swipe happy when trying to access it on her iPad/iphone leading to deleted apps and messed up settings so after reading this thread i ventured over to thread in question see what the fuss is......Holy jesus ****ing christ it's a circling swarm of shitflies desperately trying to protect their steaming pile of utter shit otherwise known as the 2nd amendment from change to ultimately, in the long game to save their own baby shitflies lifes.

I even made the mistake of clicking on a few of their usernames and the content on many of their pages is genuinely stupefyingly ignorant to an order that i thought was a caricature of a gun toting NRA supporting nut job.

Just as well i'd never get a visa for a trip to the states, i doubt i'd be able to contain my disbelief at their utterly stupid beliefs based on a 230 odd year old document, i doubt i'd make it past immigration/customs or whatever it's called.

edit : check out a post by walter nagal starting 7 hrs ago, priceless trolling by the stw crew - very well done!. If i was on Facebook i'd have given you a

Can you imagine the work load on Cougar and Drac moderating those “contributors” if they ventured on to the forum. They make certain forumites seem calm, sensible, and well reasoned.

They would need a whole new banhammer.

Perhaps we need to give STW editors guns too??

They would need a whole new banhammer

Bangun?

Lots of upset Americans. I don’t think they’ll be renewing their subscriptions.

I don't imagine that subscription sales in the US for a UK MTB magazine account for a vast amount of overall revenue... (-:

Here's the post, I assume:

'Hey, are you on Facebook?'

'No, I speak to, text or call those people that are significant to me when I need to. Equally I'm not sure all of them would want to all know what i'm eating for dinner or what I think about Trump's latest exploits, so it's not really for me.'

'Oh, weird?'

'I know, even weirder, when I go on holiday I generally turn my phone off.'

I've just started reading the comments.  Who runs the STW FB account?  This is beautiful work.

[Angry abusive American]: I got 14 likes. How many did you get, douche?

[Singletrack Mountain Bike Magazine]: we gave you a like too Walter. We think you’re lovely.

my favourite....Chipps just says " ..they're "

What a bullshit question you're asking. Way to mix in some politics with cycling. Looks likes it's time to unfollow Singletracks.com

Some are so angry that they're unfollowing an entirely different FB page / website.

Are you confusing "angry" with "moronic" Cougar??  😉

In hindsight, Cornwallis did us a huge favour.

Are you confusing “angry” with “moronic” Cougar??

Entirely possible.

Just spotted, someone's defending guns.  Who is in Waco.

Just shows that those opinions are so far entrenched that there's no reasonable way to debate it..

It's either "you're a bats**t crazy gun totting loon" *

or

"we've got a goddammn god given right to "bare arms" and no liberal pu$$y is going to take it away from us"

I have some sympathy with the principal of the 2nd amendment but can't help thinking that it's gone way beyond this and the whole thing is now very broken. A decent man couldn't get things changed, lets see what the crazy flipflop president can (or rather will) do.  It's going to be interesting even if I hold out no hope at all that anything will change.  At the moment it's looking like a win for the NRA with their suggestion of more guns being the ridiculous, obvious answer.

* It's a bit more measured than this generally but it's the inference.

Who is in Waco.

Who is a wacko.

I wouldn’t be surprised if those pro gun Americans that seem to pop up on the comments section on articles written about gun control are on the payroll of the NRA.

I thought that too, especially with all the same ‘I now know who to buy more stuff from, thanks.’ comments. It’s like they have a task force whose mission it is to shut down any kind of anti material.

its also hilarious how every American thinks that everything written in English on the internet is written by other Americans, for them.

Be interesting to see what would happen if STW fb did a post staying ‘we hate guns’. Would the increased traffic from offended gun nuts offset the loss in subscribers to the page?

*ponders putting a link to this thread in the comments...

The right to bear arms should in no way supercede a child's right not to be murdered in their classrooms, seems obvious to most of the civilised world!

I'm on a closed FB group for fathers containing mostly UK and US dads. They've had to ban any mention of guns because it just becomes a full on slanging match with death threats. Being called Liberal or left in the US appears to be a major insult.

Can’t think why some are so angry.

Got help the Americans if there was a close vote to leave a union.

That bloke has spaghetti on his face, how can he see what he’s shooting at..

Perhaps we need to give STW editors guns too??

Say Watts again mofo!

Alker 25:17

The singletrack  of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the dogwalkers and the tyranny of evil stickmen. Blessed is he, who in the name of enduro and gnar, shepherds the unfit newbie through the valley of radness, for he is truly his bro's keeper and the finder of cheeky trails.. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious banhammers those who would attempt to poison and destroy my forum...... And you will know my name is the Mark when I lay my update upon thee.

There’s a magazine too, apparently.

I hope it's one of those safe low capacity ones.

The funny thing is that the proper frothing vitriol-spitting inflammatory nutters issuing death threats do a fantastic job of illustrating exactly why they shouldn’t have access to firearms, whilst drowning out the far more persuasive well reasoned arguments of calmer advocates.

Never mind its generating clicks for the clickbait lover. Paying for the forum.

They really are just a little bit unhinged, aren’t they 🤪

Can’t think why some are so angry.

Decembeard seems to have gotten a bit out of hand

Alker 25:17

The singletrack  of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the dogwalkers and the tyranny of evil stickmen. Blessed is he, who in the name of enduro and gnar, shepherds the unfit newbie through the valley of radness, for he is truly his bro’s keeper and the finder of cheeky trails.. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious banhammers those who would attempt to poison and destroy my forum…… And you will know my name is the Mark when I lay my update upon thee.

This should be appended to the 'Our Forum' sticky 🙂

Brilliant. 😂

‘Hey, are you on Facebook?’

‘No, I never know when my favourite band are playing locally, or what gigs the local promoter is putting on. I go in record shops to see if bands have a new MP3 release, which appears to be never. I've lost contact with a colleague who uses Facebook messaging, I also have no idea when the local Bike Parks have events on, so my son misses all those.. But man, do I feel smug that I don't use Facebook.'

I wouldn’t be surprised if those pro gun Americans that seem to pop up on the comments section on articles written about gun control are on the payroll of the NRA.

Well maybe, but Occam's Razor suggests that maybe they are just rednecks.

There was an interesting story on the radio the other day about a journalist going to the States a few years ago and doing one of those "how easy is it to buy a gun" exercises. Of course he was able to walk into a shop and buy a gun. Then the gunnist said to him that there was one problem: he couldn't sell him any ammunition. The reason was that Obama had just been elected and there had been a rush on ammo and he'd sold out.

What a giant load of plums.

I love the fact that they're saying that we (i.e, us in the UK) wouldn't have free speech without their (i.e., the Mercans') guns.

good work perchy!

Bring on the gun sponge

Don't be thinking all those angry comments are from Redneck Americans. There are a few strokers on here who will be pushing the pro-gun agenda.

I love the fact that they’re saying that we (i.e, us in the UK) wouldn’t have free speech

Clearly an idiot. We don't have free speech.

We don’t have free speech.

Yes, we <redacted>

I love the fact that they’re saying that we (i.e, us in the UK) wouldn’t have free speech without their (i.e., the Mercans’) guns.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

Don’t be thinking all those angry comments are from Redneck Americans. There are a few strokers on here who will be pushing the pro-gun agenda.

and right on cue...

I don't think you ever did answer whether you actively support the NRA stance of more guns or you're just on your usual trollathon, ninfan - or are you just going to invoke the usual avoiding awkward questions tactic?

I love the fact that they’re saying that we (i.e, us in the UK) wouldn’t have free speech without their (i.e., the Mercans’) guns.

Although nothing to do with their ludicrous gun ownership laws, they do have a point.

if it wasn't for the huge American industry capacity, then 1944 wouldn't of happened.

Europe would of been either part of the USSR or the Third Reich.

Another interesting piece of information from that article in the mag:

The election of Donald Trump, on a platform which promised relaxed gun control laws, meant that firearms enthusiasts bought fewer guns and stockpiled less ammunition, and in 2017 Vista’s shares lost 67% of their value. So the purchasing of other sports brands appears to be a way of hedging their bets.

if it wasn’t for the huge American industry capacity, then 1944 wouldn’t of happened.

Europe would of been either part of the USSR or the Third Reich.

Well it wouldn't have happened exactly as it did, but whether Europe would of (sic) been part of the USSR or a greater Germany is a bit of an assumption.

One of my Facebook "friends" is fond of reposting stuff about how the EU should bend over to our Brexit demands because we (i.e. Britain) rescued all of the current EU member states from Jerry back in whenever. I think that's a full house, and I invoke Godwin's Law. Thread closed.

nothing to do with their ludicrous gun ownership laws

That’s all you needed.

we (i.e. Britain) rescued all of the current EU member states from Jerry back in whenever.

Except Germany.

And Italy.

Except Germany.

And Italy.

Only they were rescued from their Dictators.

Well it wouldn’t have happened exactly as it did, but whether Europe would of (sic) been part of the USSR or a greater Germany is a bit of an assumption.

Really? What other possible outcome could there of been?

It's possible the UK could of held out for a few years but once either the Nazi's or the USSR had won their battle, without the USA what could we of done about it?

Some of them seem rather het up and very excitable about a simple question, just the sort of people that should they’re guns taken away from them.

It’s possible the UK could of held out for a few years but once either the Nazi’s or the USSR had won their battle, without the USA what could we of done about it?

HAVE done, not of done.

Although nothing to do with their ludicrous gun ownership laws

Sorry, not quite true - US civilians donated and shipped about 120,000 rifles and pistols to the U.K. before formal arms shipments from the US Govt 7nder lend-lease began, most of which went to home guard units (how practical they were may be a different question, but it would appear that in the face of a Nazi invasion, arming poorly trained civilians with guns as a last line of defence was seen as somewhat better than leaving them fending off stormtroopers with sharpened sticks. Funny that.

But man, do I feel smug that I don’t use Facebook.’

@DezB - Perhaps it is a bit smug, but I think you are over estimating the value of Facebook. On the points you raise, we have a family Spotify thingy, so all 5 of us are absolutely dripping in music. I'm doing activities with my kids week in week out, by being there you do know what's going on. I would hand on heart really love to know how many stw'ers have missed out on an event at their local bike park with their son because they are not on Facebook 😀 I use what's app, it's like messenger without all the crap that comes with Facebook. We go and see bands, and we head to event's like the Peddler's market in Sheffield (our local city) which provides us with more flyer's on events than we could get in the month. And even better we can have a fancy dan beer, a trendy burger and listen to some music whilst we get that info. Seems better than all being sat around on device's just picking up what some target marketing algorithm thinks we should like. Plus, my kids are all over Facebook, what am I going to miss?

I think you might be missing the value of actually doing stuff.

my kids are all over Facebook

They must be the only ones that are. Facebook is deeply uncool with the under 20's 'cos their mums and dads use it 🙂

Sorry, not quite true – US civilians donated and shipped about 120,000 rifles and pistols to the U.K. before formal arms shipments from the US began, most of which went to home guard units.

As the Home Guard never really had any effect on the outcome of the War, then I stand by my statement.

I don’t know how FB works. Anyone have a link?

As the Home Guard never really had any effect on the outcome of the War, then I stand by my statement.

The Germans never invaded did they? They knew we would fight back.

See, armed civilians with guns deter attacks, what more do you need to know?

^^ That’s the most nonsensical thing I’ve read on here in ages. By that logic Germany wouldn’t have invaded any other countries now would they? Ooh can’t start a war, they might fight back.

The Germans never invaded did they? They knew we would fight back.

See, armed civilians with guns deter attacks, what more do you need to know?

Obvious Troll is obvious.

 I think you are over estimating the value of Facebook

Not really,no

I think you might be missing the value of actually doing stuff

Duh! I clearly use it to find out when stuff to do is happening.

I'm not saying I'm "all over Facebook" (far from it), or that everyone else should be. Just saying it has it's uses and they might not be what people think they are. Particularly those who take joy in saying that they never use it.

I didn't read your middle paragraph btw. Blame the new font.

There seems to be a great deal of trumpeting about the Second Amendment, which is directly proportional to the ignorance of the First Amendment.

Lend lease

You have checked what was most provided?  You also realise that the material want privately owned?  You do also understand the importance of the Eastern front in the demise of the Third Reich...?

It all makes sense, the Americans helped us out in the war so they should be allowed to kill 13,000+ every year with guns.

MRW  I'm an American teacher

Hmmmmmm - I've just read starship troopers.  The film clearly satirises the fascist elements of the book - but they are looking more and more familiar given the increasing hero-worship of the armed forces in the US, and creeping of politics to the right.