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I very much agree with above post about real risks. If you really want to live longer and happier then adopting a Mediterranean diet will do you more good than avoiding places not protected with concrete blocks. When people post their weight and eating/drinking habits on this forum it's clear what's most likely to debilitate/kill them and it's not a crazy in a truck or a bomb.

You live in one of the best policed parts of France, Jamba. Policing levels in Paris per 100 000 citizens are about five times levels outside the Périphérique. You also live in a very calm part of Paris. A long time ago (well 30 years) I had a girlfriend who lived in an HLM in Aulnay/bois, living there really meant sleeping there then taking the RER into Paris for everything else.

Well the US clearly has far less of a problem with domestic terrorism than does Europe. I wonder why that is ?

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yeah, Jamby just said so, weren't you paying attention?

There's been no more 9/11s since they started vetting all Saudis, that says a lot.

Although Donald Trump is taking no chances and is going to send them all back. They're going, they're gone.

I very much agree with above post about real risks. If you really want to live longer and happier then adopting a Mediterranean diet will do you more good than avoiding places not protected with concrete blocks. When people post their weight and eating/drinking habits on this forum it's clear what's most likely to debilitate/kill them and it's not a crazy in a truck or a bomb.

Certainly true, but so what? If Germany want to put a bit of Police effort into investigating this crime and take a few steps to reduce similar crimes in the future then I don't think we can criticize it on the basis that they'd save more lives by offering dietary advice to fat people.

Well the US clearly has far less of a problem with domestic terrorism than does Europe. I wonder why that is ?

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1, stop promoting inciting and supplying weapons and wars into the Middle East
2. create safe and legal forms of entry into Europe
3. set public policy around understanding and acceptance of immigration.

Hard to argue with number 1, although I'm far from convinced it would all be sunshine and roses without the West. Not sure of the relevance of 2 and 3 as far as fuel for radicalisation goes?

Responsible does not equal guilty. I think the Germans are more capable of managing Germany than some biased ego-tripping tit with an agenda on Sky.

Berlin attacker placed on US No Fly list months ago. Not rocket science.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/22/u-s-placed-berlin-terror-suspect-on-no-fly-list-months-ago-report-says.html

Berlin attacker placed on US No Fly list months ago. Not rocket science.

Wasn't Cat Stevens on that list?

I would say rocket science is a lot easier than working out who to detain contrary to human rights agreements or expel when they are not welcome from whence they came. The ballistics to put man on the moon amounted to a few pages of Fortran, many millions of pages of code have gone into security with no way of stopping me if ever I should take it into my head to do something awful. I won't (I'm the only one who can be sure of that) some will.

Thanks for the link jambalaya - I spent a very enjoyable and amusing 10 minutes reading the comments 🙂

This terrorist was from ****stan although he claimed he was Afghan. ****stan not Syria or Iraq

Berlin attacker placed on US No Fly list months ago. Not rocket science.

so, a couple of days ago, you posted some crap about the suspect who was released, and now you've decided that finding the next suspect should be in fact "not rocket science..."

you are a computer generated troll, and I claim my 5 euros and 72 virgins (or is it sultanas, I can never remember)

Berlin attacker placed on US No Fly list months ago. [b]Not rocket science.[/b]

It's not about finding him nick, its about not letting into the country someone who has been imprisoned for arson, then found to be active communicating with IS. The US reconise this and he is "no fly". As for the original suspect EU as part of it's deal with Turkey automatically now send back to Turkey all ****stani and Bangladeshi's who try and claim to be refugees on entering Greece.

ernie, you are braver than I

And just how were the Germans supposed to keep him out? If I want to travel to Spain for a very good reason it would take the whole French army to stop me, and I reckon I'd still have a good chance of getting through. I'd get to England too but posting how here might give the wrong people the right idea if ever they were to read it.

You hold up the US as a model yet the number of latin illegals grows daily.

You hold up the US as a model yet the number of latin illegals grows daily.

Yes but all that is about to change.

It's not rocket science ffs :

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Well I say it's not rocket science but if a wall proves a tad too difficult to build a good sturdy fence will be just as good.

[url= http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-14/donald-trump-says-parts-of-border-wall-fence/8022188 ]Donald Trump: Parts of border wall could be fence instead, US President-elect says[/url]

So you see stopping Mexican rapists and criminals crossing the world's most frequently crossed international border, all 2,000 miles of it, should be a piece of piss.

Only atheists, gays, liberals, marxists, and terrorist-lovers, think differently. But that's 'cause they hate America.

Strange Ernie

As a self-avowed Marxist-Leninist I would have though that the proposal of the Germans build a wall to keep out immigrants and undesirable and damaging cultural influences would have been right down your street...

Mind you, sections of the last one were fences too, but I don't remember anyone complaining about the name 😉

Ah, keyboard warriors are go ....
However shit the local intelligence service are, I am guess they have more info that posters here ...

Strange Ernie

There's nowt so queer as folk.

Thanks, perhaps you should have aimed it at Tom_W since he thought China was relevant to this thread

They too are experiencing a small problem from Muslim extremists so maybe very relevant, always good to see how other deal with a problem, you can possibly learn from others mistakes?

Yes it might be useful to see how China deals with extremism :

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And this is how they deal with Buddhists who displease them :

[url= https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/18/china-falun-gong-crackdown ]China's Falun Gong crackdown: 'The persecution is almost underground' [/url]

Berlin attacker placed on US No Fly list months ago. Not rocket science.

A member of this parish was on the list for many years, is he a terrorist?

A colleague of mine was on the US no fly list. One of the fun things is, they won't tell you why, you find out by turning up at the airport with your family and being told you're not allowed on the plane- but eventually with a load of pressure from the british council and some help from the home office, it turned out he has a kind of similiar name to a "person of interest", and he's syrian, and he sometimes travels to the middle east. And that's enough. Now he has a letter from the gubmint that he has to take with him every time he flies.

It's not radicalised him as far as I know 😆 But that's the no fly list.

I was on some sort of security list because I used to do trips to US that involved lots of short one way trips between cities that were booked by someone else at the last minute. Real PITA as we were sometimes catching 3-4 planes a day and each time, we would have 2-3 extra security searches. Odd for a white causasian Brit!!

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Odd for a white causasian Brit!!

It's odd for an arabic Brit too I assure you. And for anyone else of any colour and nationality that ends up on a Sekrit List and gets treated like a criminal for no meaningful reason.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-15/nsw-greens-mp-mehreen-faruqi-fingerprinted-and-questioned-at-lax/7091360

New South Wales Greens MP Mehreen Faruqi has criticised security procedures at Los Angeles International Airport after she was "interrogated" about her ****stani history.

Dr Faruqi is touring the United States as part of a self-funded fact-finding trip on drug law reform and also to visit family.

At immigration control, Dr Faruqi said she and her husband were asked "how we actually got our Australian passport" before being interviewed in separate rooms.

world would be a lot safer if they just used simple racial profiling 🙁

At immigration control, Dr Faruqi said she and her husband were asked "how we actually got our Australian passport"

It's a fair question - a terrorist would probably give the wrong answer.

Drac only a portion of the no-fly list is terrorist related as you well know. You can (will) be denied entry to the US if you have been in prison. They denied Nigela Lawson entry for having publically admitted she had taken cocaine. Their country they make the rules. I always got lots of questions as I had so many Middle East visas/stamps.

The bottom line is stricter security is inconvenient but that's better than the alternative. If they have overdone it, then so be it. It's absolutely within the US's right to police their own borders as they see fit.

Of course I know it's you who appeared to didn't. Best of all hasn't even got a beard.

Drac only a portion of the no-fly list is terrorist related as you well know

Um...yeah, we know, it's not rocket science...

Indeed it is not. You aim to keep out all the bad guys and gals. That probably means you keep out some good people too but so be it.

Drac he has posted here he was banned for an earlier indiscretion.

The bottom line is stricter security is inconvenient but that's better than the alternative. If they have overdone it, then so be it. It's absolutely within the US's right to police their own borders as they see fit.

Yes it might be useful to see how China deals with extremism

Well, they don't have a Falun Gong problem anymore!

(said in the spirit of the guy hanging upside down praising the Romans in Life of Brian).

Drac he has posted here he was banned for an earlier indiscretion.

It's a very interesting story of why he was but certainly not because he's a terrorist or likely to be.

So are we saying being on a US No Fly list isn't a good reason to get picked up by the cops?

I've no idea I'm not a rocket scientist.

You're not paying attention.......it's NOT rocket science.

Seems he's been shot. Can I be the first to say thats a shame, would have been better to put him on trial...

Seems he's been shot. Can I be the first to say thats a shame, would have been better to put him on trial...

Very good point!

I get questioned, have my photo and fingerprints taken EVERY time I go to the States.

Get 'the chat' after I've checked in.
Varies from just being asked to sign a piece of blank paper at the desk (whilst being checked via CCTV,I assume) to a 20 minute Q&A about who I'm with, plans etc.

I have a couple of ideas as to why, but probably just the same name as someone else.

It's irrelevant whether he was the [i]right one[/i], he was shot and killed for shooting at a police office, not for being a wanted suspect.

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It's a very interesting story of why he was but certainly not because he's a terrorist or likely to be.

No I get that. The US keeps people out for a wide variety of reasons. Always has.

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Seems he's been shot. Can I be the first to say thats a [s]shame[/s], would have been better to put him on trial...

aa I think the correct term* is its a tragedy

( *amongst Islington Lefties / Bleeding Heart Liberals )

Finger prints of person shot match suspect

Seems he travelled from Germany to France to Turn to Milan all by train. Incredibly lucky he didn't shoot more people

(All on bbc website)

It's irrelevant whether he was the right one, he was shot and killed for shooting at a police office, not for being a wanted suspect.

This.

Can I be the first to say thats a shame, would have been better to put him on trial...

Agree.