[Closed] Friend was attacked by a dog.

wtf happened? what did the owner do?

Niiiccee Akita ... that's a guard dog, not a fluffy pet.

The owner let it off the lead at the bar to feed it pork scratchings. Heather, being a sucker for animals, started to feed it also and bent down to pat it and make "coochy-coo" noises and the thing just grabbed her.

My FB page has her comment, underneath the photo of her injuries, that she was sad the poor thing was put down.

Big softie.

Could easily have been someones kid though.

I've heard from vets that Akita's will probably end up being added to the list of dangerous dogs...

Akita = dick extension dog

Mr Woppit - Member

The owner let it off the lead at the bar to feed it pork scratchings. Heather, being a sucker for animals, started to feed it also and bent down to pat it and make "coochy-coo" noises and the thing just grabbed her.

There that's the problem. Never attempt to touch the dog when it is eating especially if it is not your own. Even mine would start growling at me if I put my hand closer.

Kin ell - that is one scary mo-fo of a hound.

There that's the problem. Never attempt to touch the dog when it is eating, especially if it is not your own. Even mine would start growling at me if I put my hand closer.

You can hardly blame the woman though, I didn't know that and I wouldn't expect anyone who has never had a dog to know either.

If she hadn't reacted so quickly to the lunge, she'd could well have lost her face.

There that's the problem.

No chewie, that's not the problem. The problem was someone owning a dick-extension dog thing and taking it down the pub. Then letting go of the lead. 🙄

WTF happened after it bit your mate?

Pretty much summed it up there Woppit

root - Member

You can hardly blame the woman though, I didn't know that and I wouldn't expect anyone who has never had a dog to know either.

The owner is to be blamed as simple as that as s/he should know better. That dog should not be amongst strangers as it is a guard dog.

I was wondering what you did when not on here Woppit.

Owner took it to the car. Had it destroyed next day. Heather and husband still deciding whether or not to prosecute for damages.

Kevevs - Member

I was wondering what you did when not on here Woppit.

Oh yeah, thanks a lot.

Why the panic Woppit? Worried about the culinary shame of having a soggy souffle?

Harsh lesson learnt by both your friend and the dog....NEVER ever touch a dog when its eating no matter if you fully trust it (which you should never do either...99.9% trust is fine!). Lesson learnt by dog too but will never be able to put that lesson in to practice, shame for all concerned.

Smoking ban in pubs, dog ban next?

So the poor hound suffers cos he was bought as an ego-extension FFS... 🙄

Your mate must sue for damages or the hound's death and your mate's injury has been in vein is my view.

dave360 - Member

Why the panic Woppit? Worried about the culinary shame of having a soggy souffle?

I'm a bloke. I can't multitask! 😆

There that's the problem. Never attempt to touch the dog when it is eating especially if it is not your own. Even mine would start growling at me if I put my hand closer

Well, not any more, obviously.

A fighting dog, she was lucky it was just a few stitches.

muggomagic - Member

Sounds like your dog is a potential child face eater.

Yes, it's a mongrel that we saved from gov't dog hunters, who were going to bludgeon it to death (save cost of bullet et), and the only face it will eat is my father. He can eat his face as far as I am concerned ... or my nephew (17 years old) ... and my bro-in-law ...

im visualising you burning the guinea fowl a la' notting hill now

This will go the way of most STW arguments. Firstly, I hope your friend is ok. It's bad enough to get bitten by a dog, let alone on the face and (possibly?) be left with scars to remind her constantly.

Personally, while I might stroke a harmless cavalier or somesuch while it was eating, I wouldn't go near anything that could do serious damage with a bite. Why the fleck someone [i]needs[/i] a dog like that is beyond me. Why have a dog that most folk would be scared of, anyway? (I suspect this question answers itself). However, all that's a bit late for your friend now. She thought she was being friendly I guess. Small mistake. Big price to pay.

A dog should be taught from a puppy to allow a human to take food (or toys) from it's mouth. This is firstly for a human's safety and secondly, if a dog is choking on something it shouldn't be trying to attack you while you're trying to save its life. It's not a flipping wild animal for crissakes.

It's never nice to hear about an animal being destroyed for something that's likely down to a lack of training, but in this case and with this kind of dog, I don't feel there's any other option.

Lastly, and again, hopefully she'll recover ok.

Do the government still have dog hunters? Are you sure you're not getting confused with a Disney film?

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most pet insurance includes public liability-ness for damages to other people etc. i'd hope with an akita the owner would've been sensible enough to have insurance... they're not exactly known for being calm gentle dogs!

i always thought it was pretty essential training to get your dog used to having its food interfered with/taken away from it so it learns not to be possessive over it/growl and bite etc?

A dog should be taught from a puppy to allow a human to take food (or toys) from it's mouth. This is firstly for a human's safety and secondly, if a dog is choking on something it shouldn't be trying to attack you while you're trying to save its life. It's not a flipping wild animal for crissakes.

+1

been doing this with my cockapoo.

Blimey, that is really horrible, poor woman. 🙁

I used to working in boarding kennels and my primary job was to exercise dogs in the paddock. Was used to handling all sorts of creatures but one day I had two Akitas to exercise, one at a time obviously.

Was amazed at how dense their coat was, you can't get an idea from pics. Dog no. one would not make eye contact with me so that was a dead giveaway. Tried to brush him but no, he wouldn't have any of that. On the way back to his kennel, he pulled on his checklead and it took all of my strength to return him to heel. Such power! 😯

Funnily enough, dog no. two was fine with a different temperament.

I honestly think the time has come for certain breeds to be restricted to owners who've passed a competency test, along with compulsory third party liability insurance.

Mr Woppit - I do hope your friend recovers both physically and mentally.

they're not exactly known for being calm gentle dogs!

Going to make a massive generalisation here 🙄 and hazard that they're not known for having owners that have their dogs insured either. 🙂

Are you sure you're not getting confused with a Disney film?

good point darcy 🙁

My dogs will let people take their food away from them half way through. Did it when they were pups so they learnt.

a government dog hunter declined to comment..

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soz, didn't mean to sound callous Woppit. Sounds like a bad ordeal. I been there, attacked by family dog when I was a kid, so time makes it look normal to me. check my scars!

dd - the two in boarding kennels would have had a responsible owner and insurance. I believe they were regulars. Also the kennels had a very good reputation and, indeed, I would have no hesitation in sending my own dog there, if I had one that is!

Akita = dick extension dog

Miss Spoon's sister has a rotweiller/alsatian cross called "Bear". It has the persoanlity of Scooby Doo (complete with sitting down to stop on slippery floors) and it's scared of me if I've been near other dogs.

Proof you can't judge a dog's temprament by it's breed.

CG, dont forget dad-lydarcy lives in bristol... the west country equivalent of aldershot

binners - Member

Do the government still have dog hunters? Are you sure you're not getting confused with a Disney film?

It's in a foreign land far far away where dog meat can easily be transformed in a delicacy especially local mongrel ... so gov't dog hunters can be trigger happy at times and or to save cost they would bludgeon the dog to death then sell it to backstreet dog meat sellers. Apparently by bludgeoning it to death they have tenderised it ... yes, I kid you not.

On that particular day my parents saved 3 dogs as they ran into my parent's house to escape being killed. At that time our dog looked like a young dog of 1 year old so a juvenile. The other two were adult dogs of about 2 to 3 years old. Anyway, it now guards my parents everywhere they go ... it nearly bit off my hand the last time I visited them as I was trying to take food from it. LOL! I was going to bludgeon it too if it bit me ...

CG, indeed, hence my 🙄 at my own comment.

I guess that if the owner is happy to pay for them to be kenneled properly, etc, then that's the kind of owner who'll have it uninsured. (EDIT to add the "un". Oops)

I feel sometimes that dogs go the way of cars when it comes to insurance. The person who is most likely to hit you is often least likely to be insured. Irresponsible people do irresponsible things - including not training their dogs (I mean come on, an Akita FFS? Surely you need to be nails on this kind of a dog from day one. Even the pic in the OP has got me scared.) nor insuring them.

Anyway, all beside the point...

philly darling - dd and I have met in that Brizzle, also met Mrs dd and Mollie. 8)

philconsequence - Member

CG, dont forget dad-lydarcy lives in bristol... the west country equivalent of aldershot

They live next door to Aldershot...

The aldershot thing is going way over my head... 😳

Akitas can be lovely dogs- but they're strong, smart and protective/territorial, and not that many owners can deal with that. Friends of mine have raised 2 japanese and theirs are great dogs- not really everyday house pets mind. But neighbours of mine had a longcoat and it was a genuinely dangerous animal, they just had no idea how to handle it and it had grown up unchallenged.

Not sure if this qualifies them as dangerous dogs as a breed, but they're definitely one with potential to cause real trouble.

all dogs have the potential to grow up dangerous without the right training and care... its just some have the breeding and strength to cause more damage than others, some are bred to be strong and dangerous.

Smaller version of Akita should be better such as Shiba Inu.

As CG says they are properly powerful things. I regularly see a teenage girl walking 2 pit-bulls near me. Makes me cringe every time as there's no way she could control them if they decided they didn't want to do as they were told one day...

I once took a pal's pit-bull for a walk when I was about 18 and I was amazed at it's strength, I wasn't a weed but no strong-man either and it could have taken me on as long a walk as it wanted to. A really well trained and mild-mannered dog but epic potential for harm with the wrong-owner.

Awesome things but, quite simply, surplus to our requirements.

Has the dog ben put down, or just rehomed for a fee, also make a claim for damages if the owner owns a house then the no win lot will take the case the on, if a council/renter then little chance.

The owner was a D1ck, taken from a dog guide

Originally bred as protectors, Akitas are instinctively wary of strangers[u]

followed by

Food aggression is also common among Akitas.

the owner should have known this.

Interestingly enough there was a news article the other day about the rise and demise of certian breeds, notable among them was the Akita being in favour as are Siberian Huskies - 2 dogs that the general population have **** all understanding off, but like because they look like big fluffy bears. The Akita is not that far removed from a Tosa (evil little ****ers if you get on the worng side of em). Though a caveat on all of that, is training. If done competetly enough most dogs are fine. Certain groups (read tw8s) have re-ignited the push to have Rotties banned, a very misunderstood breed, but truely wonderful if brought up well.

 

Once again, I come back to my point that dogs need ongoing training as well as knowing their place. Their place is not on a sofa being fed biscuits and crisps!

*awaits mud-slinging and being told what a miserable cah I am*

our dog is allowed on the sofa 😀 he's not allowed food on the sofa though.

his favourite thing in the world is to run from the kitchen and jump on the sofa like a trampoline 😆

EDIT - nearly forgot.... miserable cah!

(agreed on them needing to know their place, just think its possible to do this whilst still allowing them on the sofa occasionally)

Good job he's not a cah.

Why can't all the people who feel the need to have big, mental dogs just get a nice fluffy kitten instead.

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Awwwwwwwww bless

I would quite like a challenging dog! I don't tar all owners of gsd's, rottweilers, huskies etc with the same brush.

A family near us bought an Akita

4 small children

Left the poor dog in the garden all day after the first couple of weeks novelty had worn off

I knew it would end badly, I could see how bored and frustrated the dog was. No socialising

Anyway, they were having a party one night with some other people with kids, then heard the dog barking then some girl screaming then a lot of shouting

No other sign of the dog after that

I blame the owners entirely, wrong dog, ignored and neglected

They need to bring back dog licences or something to stop anybody just getting one because they see a cute puppy

philconsequence +1 🙂

I work on the theory that it's ok for them to be on the sofa / jump up [b]if[/b] they are invited.

Our two do know their place, food (or taking it away) doesn't cause any problem and they stay on the floor (while we are looking) unless invited 'up'.

When we are out it's a different matter 😳 we get home to 'innocent' looking dugs and wee warm, cosy dents on the sofa cushions... You just got to love 'em 🙄

Does that make me a cah?

I would quite like a challenging dog! I don't tar all owners of gsd's, rottweilers, huskies etc with the same brush.

But hopefully you wouldn't take it down the pub and take the lead off.

Does that make me a cah?

Rite cah.

Proof you can't judge a dog's temprament by it's breed.

this is wrong on so many levels, you can judge lots of things on breed including likely temprament. Thats why certain dogs make good police dogs and others good retrievers or guide dogs. They are genearlisations but to ignore breed specific traits is daft.

Hope the lady concerned is ok and I would encourage her to press for compensation given the chance.

Mate of mine is a vet - he told me about a woman bringing an Akita in. Dog on lead in one hand, new born baby in the other! Mate asks politely about arrangements at home and woman was gobsmacked that her 'pet' might not be the best choice with a baby in the house. Shows that just plain old stupidity is as common as dick owners (not that one necessarily excludes the other).

Sorry, has it really been destroyed or with a family friend of the owners?

My beloved dog was lucky after he attacked my son. If it had been stitches it wouldn't have reached the vets. Once a dog bites a human its firmly curtains. Keep a lookout for a Akita in the area.

best wishes to the OP's friend I hope she gets through this ok.

In regard to tarring breeds of dog with their reputation, as a postie I come into contact with a lot of dogs. On the whole they're fine but I mainly get problems with what people would class as 'family' pets not the so called 'hard' dogs .I've been bitten twice in fourteen years 1st time by a Border collie and 2nd a Springer Spaniel.
The Staffie/Akita/Alsatian type dogs outnumber traditional 'family' type dogs on my round and all but one are as soft as they come , one Akita actually drags it's owner in the opposite direction if I go near them. Dogs don't scare me and I've challenged quite a few roaming dogs over the years , it's down to how the dog is trained (or not) the owner has a responsibility to ensure their pet behaves !
Maybe all dogs should have to be chipped/registered , might make owners think a bit harder about how their pet is raised.

I realise that there will always be an element in society for who a 'hard' dog is part of their image and you'll never manage to educate everyone.

been doing this with my cockapoo.

That sounds like a poofs dog

carlosg - Member

best wishes to the OP's friend I hope she gets through this ok

Yeah, she's relatively O.K. thanks.

I was able to introduce her by saying "This is H******. She's had her face eaten by a dog"...

PS: Didn't panic in the kitchen. Dinner was a triumph! (Thought you'd want to know...) 😀

Sorry about your friend Woppit, hope she makes a full recovery.

Oddly enough, I haven't seen one for a while and I know of at least three which were put down from the same litter (one so called 'bad' dog, the others were with different families on the same estate, if you get the picture!) after a 'so called' attack on a child. Not the dogs fault and it most definitely had not attacked the child, who I believe had sustained the small scratch on her forehead by inadvertently running into the dog while playing!

Lovely animals which obviously need a firm hand and intelligent owner used to handling large dogs

Unfortunately they tend to be owned by people with none of those attributes.