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I only had half a day today. It was so cold I had to bite the bullet and sort out the eaves on the south side, the east wind was swirling around the trees bring sleet with it. It made a huge difference with the gap closed.

I found a sheet of heavy duty laminated glass, just about the perfect size to build a door around. I was careful setting up the saw but somehow I over cut the rebates by a couple of mm. It will be fine, but I'd like to have cut it right first time.

I got a call from the carrier to say my stove will arrive on Friday. I will sort out some pipe and one of those silicon roof gaskets and if the weather stays fair over the weekend I will try and get it in and running.

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Posted : 20/03/2013 7:30 pm
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Looking good.
For flashings I used these guys recently and they seemed allright for mail order service.

http://fluesystems.com/shop/V-Seal_AD_Series_Flashings.html


 
Posted : 20/03/2013 8:05 pm
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Cheers Stoner, more proof that STW is more efficient than Google. 😀


 
Posted : 20/03/2013 8:39 pm
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Just a quick bit of beware info - not necessarily those seals in particular, but something very similar was used on a friends chimney and suffered leaks where it raised slightly due to the seam on the twin-wall. Here's a pic...

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As you can see, it's quite a small gap but enough to let in quite a large amount of water over time. Easily fixed with some of that Plumba Flue sealant or similar.

Edit : Nice build BTW.


 
Posted : 20/03/2013 8:52 pm
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It's a shame I'm not nearer, otherwise, I'd have sewn the 'all important draught excluder sausage' for the door 🙂


 
Posted : 20/03/2013 9:28 pm
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We should arrange a STW Northern meet at one of mcmoonter's palaces...


 
Posted : 20/03/2013 9:58 pm
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If you a in the area Footflaps, drop in.

Bunnyhop, I think the sausage may be more of a worm, the tolerances on the new door are small.

I finished the door, and got the top half glazed, I was going to board the bottom panel when a random search found a pane almost the right size in the byre. Miraculously I found a glass cutter and cut it to fit. The hinges look a bit odd but they do the job well.

I finished off the eaves too, so everything is in place for the stove arrival tomorrow.

I ordered a flue gasket last night without measuring the roof profile castellations. The flue is a bit wider than the valley, so there could be a problem. I should have phoned first. Bummer.

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Posted : 21/03/2013 6:35 pm
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The gasket should form across the ridges OK. Plenty of silicone required. Did you get the gasket fitting kit too with the self tapping sealing screws?

Depending on dimensions you may want to centralise the flue to a ridge as opposed to a valley.


 
Posted : 21/03/2013 7:02 pm
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The gasket should form across the ridges OK. Plenty of silicone required. Did you get the gasket fitting kit too with the self tapping sealing screws?

Yes I bought the kit too. I ordered it first class, it should be here tomorrow.


 
Posted : 21/03/2013 7:04 pm
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Door fit is so tight I can't get the extension cable through the gap.

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Posted : 21/03/2013 7:22 pm
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The ridges on the two sections of roof are not parallel... 😈 I only point this out as a way of assuaging my intense jealousy towards you for having the skill to knock this together in what seems like a matter of days. It'd take me months to build something like this, except it'd be much shonkier when finished.


 
Posted : 21/03/2013 7:43 pm
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It taunts me every time I see it. I put them on as darkness was falling and I was freezing. The curse is that I pop rivited the join and it would be a faff to to sort it. Maybe when the better weather comes I'll be more motivated to sort it out.

EDIT I think it is just one or two sheets above the door, even so it needs fixing.


 
Posted : 21/03/2013 7:50 pm
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wee bit of advice with the door area - get a foot mat or some king of covering down, as the traffic at the door area is likely to make the floor boards swell there, with obvious consequences for opening the door

Have seen this many times with these kinds of structure


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:36 am
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Looking superb!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 11:31 am
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That is very impressive!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 12:22 pm
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Has snow been hampering progress today?


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:33 pm
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We didn't have much snow but the easterly wind was bone chilling. It was dry early morning so I finally got the ridge on and sealed. I dug in a couple of pallets to set the logs on when the stove delivery driver phoned to say he was on his way.

The stove itself is a lot lighter than my others, it's not surprising as it cost about a quarter the price, but it should be efficient enough for a shed stove.

I had to buy some new stove pipe from the merchants. The guy behind the counter instantly dismissed my installation idea and calculated the costs and availability of what I'd need. The total came to over £800. 😯

That was a non starter, so we discussed what each component on his list actually did. I figured I could do much the same with a sleeve of eight inch pipe I have at home, a couple of his wall brackets and a rain shedding pipe collar. So I left with a considerably smaller bill and the salesman shaking his head though he couldn't argue with the merits of my solution.

It was too cold by the time I got back, to install it so hopefully tomorrow I will give it a go. I have some cuttings of profile sheeting so I can have a dry run. The silicon gasket arrived too. It looks well up to the job.

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Posted : 22/03/2013 7:02 pm
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Very nice looking stove mcmoonter, and i'm suitably impressed wi your shed - does this mean we will we see a flurry of activity on the painting front this year?, a new perspective perhaps?, or will it be a case of a rocking chair on the porch in our two day summer wi a glass of wine and a sketchbook in hand. 😀

D'ya need any bends or extensions for your stove?, i have these below left over/spare from when i fitted mine, one 6" bore x 45 dg bend and two 6" bore x 3"/75mm extensions. Your for the price of postage if they're any good to you. Or anyone else can have them for postage for that matter.

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Posted : 22/03/2013 7:15 pm
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Does anyone else feel woefully inadequate on the man point scale? Think I need to go play with some tools.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:21 pm
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It's a working space, so I am certainly going to get painting in it. I've enjoyed every second and every challenge in it's construction, I feel that has laid the perfect karmic foundation for this painter's studio.

I think I'm good for pipe just now thanks.

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Does anyone else feel woefully inadequate on the man point scale? Think I need to go play with some tools.

I think any with a bit of patience, a spirit level, some G clamps, a saw, hammer and nails anyone could make something comparable. I'm well aware how fortunate I am to have the space to build on, but you don't need a lot of space to make a durable shed than fulfills your needs.


 
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Does anyone else feel woefully inadequate on the man point scale? Think I need to go play with some tools.

Just poor.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:27 pm
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Just poor.

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Posted : 22/03/2013 7:40 pm
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There's not a lot to show for my afternoon's work, but it all involved careful measuring and cutting around the roof joists. It all insulated behind and it now gives me something solid to bolt the stove flue pipe brackets to.

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Fantastic. Definitely need to get a STW meet there once it's finished.


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 7:18 pm
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I lined the and insulated the lower potion of the gable this morning. Then set to making some flue brackets for the stove. The white eight inch section of pipe will project through the roof, and the last section of pipe will be joined inside it. So tomorrow if the weather stays dry, I will cut the hole, I will need to make up a supporting stay for the flue above the roof line, get it all sealed up, then hopefully the thing will vent well and I can at last get some heat.

Any views of cowls on the top of flues? Will I need one?

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Posted : 24/03/2013 6:10 pm
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I think a cowl will be dependant on how clean the wind flow is over the flue, all the trees may cause turbulence which may reduce the draw also the flue is relatively short this could have an effect as well. If your studio is very draught free you may need a vent to allow air in to allow combustion. I'd get it lit and see how it goes,door shut, door open and any other variables you can think of. We have a euro cowl on, wind blowing over creates a sort of venturi drawing air/smoke up. It almost draws too well when it is windy!A cowl will also keep rain out and birds/squirrels


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 6:39 pm
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Aren't your flue joints the wrong way up?


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 6:42 pm
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Can I come and live in it, it's nicer than my house!!


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 6:44 pm
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Aren't your flue joints the wrong way up?

I usually put them that way around, it's the only way the first section fits over the firebox outlet.


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 6:46 pm
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I'd have the flue inside the stove outlet sealed with fire rope and fire cement. Any rain,creosote, condensation can't run out of the joints only into the fire box.


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 6:54 pm
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Any views of cowls on the top of flues? Will I need one?

There's a group of people in central Rome swear by them, reckon you can use them for signaling to your followers and everything.
Could be useful to you given the high esteem in which your held in this parish.............


 
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I'd have the flue inside the stove outlet sealed with fire rope and fire cement. Any rain,creosote, condensation can't run out of the joints only into the fire box.

This.

Wrong way round isn't a problem unless you burn wet wood at which piont yukky tar will seep through and make a stinky mess. A cowl is always a good ideaa to stop rain getting in and rusting things, especially over the summer months.


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 9:00 pm
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Good call guys, I will see if it will fit the other way around. I need to go to the merchants tomorrow for another bracket, I will see what they have in the way of rainproof cowls.


 
Posted : 24/03/2013 10:05 pm
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Words cannot describe the joy that is a roaring wood burning stove in my studio. Sadly neither can pictures as my phone died last night hot on the heels of my laptop. I will get a new phone tomorrow to share the moment.

I tried to turn the glue pipes around as described above, but there was no way they would fit inside the firebox sleeve. The moisture in the fire putty leaked a bit as it heated up, but it's working fine just now. The draw is awesome.

I've got a pic on my iPad, but I cant seem to be able to upload it to Picasa or Facebook.


 
Posted : 25/03/2013 7:41 pm
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Excellent news!


 
Posted : 25/03/2013 9:23 pm
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I love these threads 😀


 
Posted : 25/03/2013 11:50 pm
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we need another update!!!


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 9:11 pm
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Im sorry for the want of updates, my phone and laptop died. Im struggling a bit with my new phone but here's something to keep you going.

The stove has been awesome, I've been working in a T shirt while snow squalls have passed by. the sun shone today and it was like being in a greenhouse in summer.

I've just got a little more cladding and insulating under the benches and Im almost there.

I will stain and varnish the floor, then paint the exterior.

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Posted : 28/03/2013 10:03 pm
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Sun, too - are you sure that's Scotland?

(And I wish I had all that land to build on!)


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 10:06 pm
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looks amazing, well done!


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 10:11 pm
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Here's another a litte later on as the evening sun went down.

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Posted : 28/03/2013 10:18 pm
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I hate you...


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 10:20 pm
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A very beautiful space you have created there. The light coming in looks wonderfully playful.


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 10:45 pm
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The light for winter is pretty amazing. The skylights face south so it catches the sun all day, in winter the sun sets over the hill well before the big woodshed would cast its shadow in summer.

I'm really chuffed at how well it's turned out. It's rough and ready in places, but it is only a shed at it's core. It was warm enough outside to consider painting the exterior, I need to get the inside sorted first, maybe by the weekend I can make a start outside.


 
Posted : 28/03/2013 11:42 pm
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That does look impressive with all the glass!


 
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