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Sounds like a pretty honest statement from Vettel. If it was “that’s as good as can be done with the car” then there’d be reason to question it


 
Posted : 10/10/2020 11:35 pm
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Yeah but in Q2, 0.1 of a second separated p4 and P10. Leclerc could have easily found himself P10. Admittedly Vettel is still 0.4s off the back of that group.


 
Posted : 10/10/2020 11:46 pm
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Sounds like a pretty honest statement from Vettel.

Well, yeah, that’s kind of what I mean: kind of an admission that he can’t drive through the shortcomings of the car on the way that drivers like Alonso, Hamilton or Verstappen can.

Anyway, more importantly, given that the duck belongs to Williams I suppose it should be Quack Villeneuve.


 
Posted : 11/10/2020 1:24 am
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Not Ayrton Swimma?


 
Posted : 11/10/2020 1:41 am
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Sounds like a pretty honest statement from Vettel.

This headline says a lot - they don't understand what is happening with their car.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/10/10/leclerc-at-a-loss-to-explain-ferraris-improved-pace/


 
Posted : 11/10/2020 3:28 am
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Well, yeah, that’s kind of what I mean: kind of an admission that he can’t drive through the shortcomings of the car on the way that drivers like Alonso, Hamilton or Verstappen can.

Ah, getcha now. Usually around here any Vettel quoting is an attempt at sniping

Agree on the duck though


 
Posted : 11/10/2020 8:45 am
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the car breaker!


 
Posted : 11/10/2020 2:55 pm
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Usually around here any Vettel quoting is an attempt at sniping

Well it sort of was 🙂 I seem to be morbidly fascinated by Vettel’s tribulations over the past three years or so.

Decent race. Turn 1 looked a bit slippery at points 🙂


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 12:44 am
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Hulkenberg now has as many top-8 finishes this season as Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.eifel-gp-facts-and-stats-hamilton-makes-history-and-mercedes-equal-ford.2yZV42FfS31PwJ410layRm.html


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 5:56 am
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While I do feel a bit sorry for Bottas and his bad luck with the engine I can't help feeling that his misplaced confidence at the end of the Russian GP was shown up this weekend. Sure, an outstanding qualifying lap and was very feisty at the first couple of corners but, once again, buckled under the pressure. Not sure if he would have been able to hold off Max V for the race or not. I think his retirement has all but confirmed Lewis as World Champion for this season


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:14 am
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I thought Lewis securing the world champs was basically secured around 4 races ago?


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:35 am
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When Albon was backed into the garage my first thought was Helmut had sacked him on the spot and told him to go a clear his motorhome! 🙂

Until they have a top-drawer driver from their driver academy they need to stick Hulk or Perez in that car. They won't challenge Max but they would bring the second car home in decent points scoring positions.


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:39 am
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I assume that wasn't the ski helmet that Mick was handing over.


 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:20 am
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I assume that wasn’t the ski helmet that Mick was handing over.

Don't be a dick.


 
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My guess is that Red Bull will buy/lease Honda’s engine IP and have someone like Cosworth, build supply and develop the engine from which they then buy it, at least in the short term.

Hell, an independent engine supplier might also be able to supply to Haas and others. The Honda engine seems pretty darn good, so I doubt it’s going to go away entirely. It’ll be bought by someone and sold back into F1.

Honda don’t want to commit resources to developing a dead end, but if they can generate revenue from existing infrastructure and IP, they’d be mad not to lease it out and recover some of their sunk costs.

Look like I was right:

Link to Planet F1 Article


 
Posted : 13/10/2020 12:44 pm
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A one year ban for Stroll seems appropriate to me given that they blatantly lied about it and put the entire sport at risk. I'm sure Perez or Hulkenberg would probably agree to sub.

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1318833991819079680


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 10:46 am
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My recollection was that Otmar said he'd been feeling unwell from after the Socchi GP, but anyway here's his (pr friendly) statement that contradicts that.

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My recollection was that Otmar said he’d been feeling unwell from after the Socchi GP,

Yep, if they'd known beforehand, they would have had Hulkenberg all ready to go. They lied about it because they didn't want everyone he'd been in contact with to be quarantined. At the very least that would have excluded his side of the garage, quite possibly both sides. They delayed the test until after the race because they are in close contention for 3rd in the championship and cannot afford to not race.

That's easy to understand, but if it had turned into a super-spreader event, it probably would have meant all races would be cancelled until covid is gone (i.e. 2022 season at the earliest). That would likely have put half the teams out of business and crippled the sport. Massively irresponsible.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 11:58 am
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Something is amiss with Stroll's absence from the last race and negative Covid tests, only for him to reveal that he's now in isolation after testing positive.

Either the tests that Stroll took returned a false negative, or the issue has been "managed" by the team. If the former, then we need to understand why. If the latter, it's massively irresponsible and Racing Point should be sanctioned for putting team members at risk. That's now two RP drivers who've tested positive, something is amiss.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:46 pm
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Agreed - I'd suggest he wasn't stuck on the khazi at all, he was just self-isolating as the team are aware of how it will look now both of the drivers have (or haven't) had it


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 1:25 pm
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Their official story has a Dom Cummings sound to it....


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 2:25 pm
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Hulk? Perez?

https://twitter.com/RACERmag/status/1319052292323065856


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 9:53 am
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confirmed Grosjean out


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 10:01 am
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confirmed Grosjean out

In other news, all F1 teams announced they are to slash personnel involved in repairing broken bodywork...


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 10:09 am
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so maybe perez to haas with mazepin, and hulk to rb?


 
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Actually, I read that story after I posted the headline. It says that Perez will probably go to Williams to replace Russell (obviously money is the big consideration because Russell seems to have impressed everyone).

Haas will want someone experienced to develop the car, so Hulkenberg is the obvious candidate, but he may be too expensive. Russell is an obvious choice to join Merc in the future, but would be nice to see him get a Haas seat if Williams do dump him.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 10:25 am
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confirmed Grosjean out

Surely K-Mag is on a shoogly peg too.

Has anyone got a list of open driver seats for next year?


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 10:30 am
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ooh


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 11:02 am
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Russell won't go to Haas...he's a Mercedes man.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 12:19 pm
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Russell won’t go to Haas…he’s a Mercedes man.

So is/was Ocon.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 12:35 pm
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It says that Perez will probably go to Williams to replace Russell (obviously money is the big consideration because Russell seems to have impressed everyone).

Something tells me Williams will want to hold on to Russell as they can start to build the team around him for the 2022 regs. Surely replacing Latifi with Perez would be the more logical choice. Don't forget they've just been taken over so investing in the future is the priority as getting further up the standings would be a better boost to finances than taking a pay-driver over talent.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 12:44 pm
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Surely replacing Latifi with Perez would be the more logical choice.

I had the same reaction - that Russell is an important asset. Thing is, Perez would bring solid financial backing and is a pretty decent driver and has a lot of experience developing cars on a shoestring budget. Latifi also brings money. When you think about it, Russell has no experience of developing a car into something competitive (not his fault, obviously) and will probably be off to join Merc in a few years so Williams might as well go with Perez and his money.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 12:52 pm
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Three F1 writers I've seen today seem to think it'll be Mazepin (for his money) and Mick Schumacher at Haas....can't be live they'd really want two newbies with no car development experience


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 1:46 pm
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Grosjean's continued F1 career has been one of life's enduring mysteries to me. Magnussen less so, but would be surprised if Haas put two rookies in next year's car.

Three F1 writers I’ve seen today seem to think it’ll be Mazepin (for his money) and Mick Schumacher at Haas

Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Mazepin at Haas, he has a rich father. I would however, be amazed to see Schumacher alongside in the other Haas, as a Ferrari junior it would make much more strategic sense to put Mick alongside Kimi at Alfa.

Something tells me Williams will want to hold on to Russell as they can start to build the team around him for the 2022 regs. Surely replacing Latifi with Perez would be the more logical choice.

Williams ditching Russell would be hugely unjust. There simply isn't anywhere else for Russell to go aside from Haas, or a reserve driver role at Merc. Just ask Pascal Wehrlein how that turned out for him.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 1:57 pm
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The fact that Williams are considering dumping Russell suggests that the new owners are just interested in an asset strip/money grab programme with a view to selling on quickly.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 2:30 pm
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Grosjean’s continued F1 career has been one of life’s enduring mysteries

He’s very fast - when his brain is engaged.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 2:34 pm
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Mazepin (for his money)

If they wanted money, surely they’d just get some sort of sponsor who’d promise piles of cash in return for a nice logo on the car? A sort of “get Rich quick” plan 🙂


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 7:03 pm
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He’s very fast – when his brain is engaged.

Undoubtedly. However there are more consistent drivers on the grid and when Grosjean does have a bout of the yips he ends up doing something dangerous, stupid or dangerously stupid.

I think that his occasional moments of brilliance are several years behind him.


 
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If they wanted money, surely they’d just get some sort of sponsor who’d promise piles of cash in return for a nice logo on the car? A sort of “get Rich quick” plan 🙂

Underrated post.


 
Posted : 22/10/2020 7:22 pm
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So Williams are refusing to confirm Russell and Latifi, and Hamilton is in no rush to re-sign with Mercedes.

So what odds will I get on Hamilton jumping to Red Bull for a laugh to put Max in his place!? And then Russell to Mercedes?

🤔🤔


 
Posted : 23/10/2020 3:37 pm
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Lewis vs Max at Redbull?


 
Posted : 23/10/2020 3:45 pm
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F1 is run by money, not loyalty or promises.


 
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