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Been trying different ways of losing weight over the last few months, but none seem to be working. Does anyone know of good way to lose weight with minimum effort?
I don't really eat that much. I did try keeping a food diary, but got fed up of constantly having to write stuff in it. Can't afford anymore surgery so I really need some cheap, easy way of losing the belly.
Any suggestions will be greatly received.
amoebic dysentery.
Less in more out..... ie: eat less and expend more energy 🙂
I bought a TACX Fortius trainer (not cheap though) - and use it 5 times a week for about an hour... with a proper outdoors ride. I reduced foor portion sizes and stopped snacking.
Lost 20lbs in 6 weeks...
The trainer means I can eat 'some' shit food - and then burn it off..! Am really enjoying the process of losing weight and the advantages 'on the bike' that come with it...
amoebic dysentery.
Can you get that over the counter or do you need a prescription?
Can't afford anymore surgery
go on then I'll bite - what have you had done so far?
Yeah other than surgery and food poisoning there are no easy ways. To me though it sounds more like you need to get your head in the right place to give it that 2 - 3 month push, as opposed to not being able to do it. How much you looking to lose?
fatkins diet worked a treat for me many years ago, best if you actually read the book properly rather than just believing the "it's just eating meat n no carbs" snippets you see in the press. It's not something I'd think about long term but for getting and keeping the weight off it was tops. I went from nearly 16st to 12 st in about 7 months then went back to a more balanced diet having got rid of any craving for processed carbs and I'm now still 12st 7 years later. 😀
Eat less, exercise more - or if you already feel like you are starving yourself, eat better quality foods and increase the intensity of your exercise. I found indoor cycling classes (aka "spinning" classes) superb for this, as I just hammered myself for an hour, three times a week, with a real ride at the weekend, and with sensible eating then steady gradual weight loss was the result.
I guess thats the other thing, how much weight do you want to loose and over what length of time? I've never found an £easy£ way of losing weight/maintaining weight when lost, other than dietary control & exercise.
[i]Does anyone know of good way to lose weight with minimum effort?[/i]
Ride, a lot more than you already are doing. Ride a lot further and ride a lot harder, roadbikes are your friend here. Granted, it's not the easiest route but I don't think there is an easy route to losing weight is there? The plus side of riding a lot more is you don't have to watch your diet so much plus you'll feel a million times better.
Second all the above......and move in with a vegetarian. I wasn't exactly fat but have lost nearly a stone over 6 months from eating beans and seeds instead of good old meat 😆
I lost weight this year by:
- Cycle commuting at least 4 days per week (10m each way)
- Kickboxing training at least once per week (plus gradings and squad training)
- Gym every day for around 50 minutes. 4 day split rotating Chest-Arms-Shoulders-Back/Abs (I don't train legs as the cycling/kickboxing has made them strong)
- Squash once per week
- Off ride ride when I could fit one in
I don't eat meat, so temptation of fatty fast food has gone, but I eat mainly salad or veg, pasta and jackets. No snacking, and drink alcohol once a week.
I lost 2.5 stone and my body fat% is under 10 now.
If you stick at any regime for a few months, it [i]will[/i] work.
sounds like you have completely the wrong attitude anyway mate. you want an easy way to lose weight? ha, there is no such thing. it's something you have to work at. all these fad diets and surgery is a load of balls, if you want to lose weight cut out the junk and exercise more; it's easy but it's all in your mind to be honest. if after your '3 months of trying' it's not working, you're not trying hard enough or you're not committed to it.
burn more calories than you consume is the only formula.
Cut one of your legs off.
The problem I have is that the fat gene has been passed on from my fathers side so I'm up against it from the start. I've started cutting back already. I only drink diet coke now and baked crisps instead of the fried junk.
[i]fat gene[/i]
This is going to run for weeks now.
Keva on my iPhone that looks like you've typed BUM more calories than you consume. Is this a diet you have tried before? I'm willing to give it ago if you're convinced it'll work.
I guess you're 'big boned' as well?
Eat less!! Exercise more!! Do it properly, it won't be instantaneous but it will be more effective and safer and sustainable than any silly fad diet.
fat gene
😆
Exercise and a vegetarian diet.
I've not eaten much meat at all since the start of November and have been running most days (half an hour is enough and easy to squeeze in, and you can start by not running all the way) as well as the usual bike rides plus an extra one a week.
Lost a stone since November 6th, now 10.5 stone and stopping there.
Oh, and there's no such thing as a fat gene. You eat more than you can burn off, you get fat. Simple as that. If you think it's hereditory, you've already defeated yourself and you'll never get thin.
I only drink diet coke now and baked crisps
there you have it. Swap for water and fruit.
Grrr, I've got the internet angries at the fat gene now.
Let's not start an argument gentleman, I know what you're all like 😉
No such thing as the fat gene???
[/URL] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article1647517.ece [/URL]
Come on guys - he's trolling
cut it out with the serious answers
jelly tits - Member
The problem I have is that the fat gene has been passed on from my fathers side so I'm up against it from the start. I've started cutting back already. I only drink diet coke now and baked crisps instead of the fried junk.
Stop the carbonated drinks for a starter, http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/328/7450/1237 , and as for the "baked crisps instead of the fried junk" then just stop eating the baked crisps, they are shite quality processed carbs anyway. If you have to eat something in between a meal, why not fruit or veg?
Out of interest, what fat gene has your family been identified with?
I'm not taking the piss here, I have a recurrent weight problem, so I do know how hard it can be to lose weight [i]and keep it off[/i], in some ways the weight loss is just the start. I've never tried to hide behind any excuses, except maybe in primary school, after that point it has just been an acceptance that I eat too much/eat unhealthily, and don't exercise enough at times.
I lost about 3/4 of a stone in a week without to much effort.
Went on holiday to Morocco, got hit by a motorbike and spent a week in a moroccan hospital with some sort of drip in my arm. Didnt eat much at all but i was sick a fair amount. Lost about 3/4 of a stone
Give that a go
Or just dont eat as much. Dont know what you eat now but if you stick to 3 small meals a day with no snacks in between then I dont see how you could go wrong. i.e. Breakfast - cereal, dinner - fuit and some sort of nuts or something and tea - pasta or stir fry or something like that.
Do a bit of exercise everyday and you should be onto a winner
Are kebabs ok?
I do exercise everyday. I walk my dog at least 3 miles per day and a lot more than that in the summer. I can't ride so much at the moment as my knee is still sore from an injury sustained playing football, but I would generally get out twice a week for a short midweek ride of around 16miles and a weekend ride of 20-25 in the winter months and far more in the summer. I'm an active person, I have 3 kids so rarely get a chance to sit on my arse.
Are kebabs ok?
as long as you have them with salad and a low fat dressing I should think.
Unless "the fat gene" pisses off for a pizza when you are not looking you are still responsible for what goes in. A greater propensity to be, on average, 3 kg heavier (or if you just got it from dad is that just one copy, therefore on average 1.2 kg?) just means you have to take more responsibility for what goes in and out. If you find it harder, fair enough, if you are serious you will try harder, no/little effort (mental or physical) in? Don't expect, or even hope for any results.
jelly tits, without being rude you say that you started a food diary but got bored with filling it in, if you ate less there would surely be less to put into the diary anyways, last jan 1 i stopped taking sugar in tea and halfed my intake elsewhere i have lost weight this last 12 months in a more consistant way than ever before i have ridden more and never felt better, give it a go it might work for you,
JT do you drink lots of beer. perhaps you could put a lemonade top on each pint. should do the trick.
I don't really eat that much. I did try keeping a food diary, but got fed up of constantly having to write stuff in it
Surely there's the problem: too much consumption and too little determination? 😆
Okay so people say to stop snacking but if I am really hungry and can't wait until lunch or dinner, what would you snack on? they say fruit and veg but I find that doesn't often fill me up enough?? suggestions?
Just a thought as I'm trying to eat super healthy, I've given up alcohol for the month of January! should be interesting month 😉
I have is that the fat gene has been passed on from my fathers side
🙂
munque-chick, if you're hungry, eat. But you'll find that if you eat every 2-3 hours , you won't get hungry between eatuing times. Try it, work out your calorie intake and divide by six. For me I work out roughly 2500 calories divided by six = 400 calories at a time. If you're exercising as well then I don't see how it can fail to work. Oh and I eat fruit if I'm snacking.
good luck
I do like a drink, but I don't think that has much bearing on my weight as I generally drink cider.
how is that of any consequence?
Mmmm I can never figure out calories etc! I wouldn't have a clue what calories are in what! I'm basically eating heathily and exercising more! but it's just a case of what to eat all day then? So bowl of Ready brek and banana in am, usually sees me through to lunch. If I'm at work some soup, ryvita with marmite and low fat cottage cheese then evening meal home made stir fry with lots of veggies, pasta, cottage pie or something homemade with lots of veg. I just find when I have to snack fruit doesn't fill me up!!!! I'm working on it though!
Losing weight can be odd at times
I've been steadily losing around 2lbs a month all last year until September when I stopped losing & stayed the same - Oct & Nov, again no change
Dec - I go & lose 5lbs
My diet & exercise is pretty near identical each month
I don't actually weigh myself as it annoys me! But I can tell I've put on a few pounds around the waist and that's just what I want to shift! Not much just a little bit.
Best thing to do is have some water before you eat anything,your body is crap at deciding wether its hungry or thirsty so if you drink and wait 30 mins and if you're still hungry eat then
Cider is about 200 calories per pint. Thats about the same as a pint of Guinness. It all adds up! Five pints would be about the same calories as a days food.
jelly tits - Member
I do like a drink, but I don't think that has much bearing on my weight as I generally drink cider.
It doesn't count as one of your 5 a day you know!
Oh, and have a look [url= http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/tips-and-tools/drink-diary/?gclid=CP-F88eFhp8CFSBk4wodgzD7JQ ]at this[/url] more calories in cider than beer for equal strength by the look of it. Maybe less than some lager. But still looking at a fifth of a daily intake for 2 pints. As long as you don't think the stuff you put in your mouth has much bearing on your weight problem and just blame your genes you are on a hiding to nothing.
edit-damn you garyfisher, beat me to it, but I have a link 😉
For snacks try keeping a small tub of raw veg mix such as celery, carrots, peppers, chicory, spring onions etc. - all low calories, strong flavours and need plenty of chewing.
If that doesn't feel enough try a few rice or oatcakes with it.
If you're just eating a bit less rather than massively cutting calories your hunger can usually be sated with flavour rather than bulk....
[i]I do like a drink, but I don't think that has much bearing on my weight as I generally drink cider.[/i]
Trolltastic! 🙂
just eat what you want but keep the fat content below 5% and watch your weight drop off.
I discovered a really easy weight-loss eating plan about 6 months ago and it has TOTALLY changed my life.
It does not involve calorie-counting.
It does not involve exercise (I'm not saying exercise is not good for you, but is a ridiculous and time-consuming method of weight control).
The whole eat less/do more idea is a myth. Unless you are a polar explorer of course. 8)
It works well in the short term, but who really enjoys feeling hungry? I know full well that I used to reward myself with loads of rubbish food after an hour in the gym and then an hour's run...I was bluddy starving. 😕
It does not involve low-fat foods.
It does involve eating real, whole foods.
It does involve getting rid of the food cravings we all have which lead us to over-eat.
I've been down the whole exercising like a lunatic/eating low-fat food etc in my 20's and 30's. It's just not a realistic way to live. You should exercise for the enjoyment and health benefits. If you are doing it purely to lose weight, you have to work pretty damned hard and it can be pretty demoralising when the weight does not drop off.
Before you all jump down my throat, I have struggled maintaining my weight at a healthy level for around 25 years and have tried just about everything.
MrFC is 41 and does hours and hours of exercise a week. He started on this eating plan and lost about 10lbs really quickly. He was not over-weight to begin with but felt loads better a bit slimmer.
It is a safe, healthy way of eating that I will now always follow.
About half my colleagues at work now follow it.
The thing is, this forum is so male dominated, with everyone having such rigid views on things, you are just not ready to open your minds and accept that there may just be another way to lose weight THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND INVOLVES VERY LITTLE EFFORT!! 8)
>THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND INVOLVES VERY LITTLE EFFORT!!
Blimey, that sounds like a cut n paste off some internet this-is-the-diet-buy-the-book thing 😉
A few things to add to some of the above posts - the Atkins diet appears to work 'cos the net calory intake is reduced - the relevance of it being protein-centric is that's what triggers the brain to think you're full.
Equally chewing everything thoroughly and not rushing your food (with a more balanced meal) ought to have the same effect.
Beer/cider has colories. A lot of processed food has excessive sugar/salt and fat and you may may well be blowing you calorific intake with that (crisps ffs !) rather than something that has more bulk (not to mention vitamins/minerals)
jond...yes it does...but I'm so passionate about it!!
I now hate seeing people struggle losing weight when I know it's so easy!!
It does involve buying a book or 2 off t'internet...oh, and the important bit...reading them and doing what it says! 🙄
I am now totally free from weight issues for the rest of my life.
you could give us some sort of idea as to what it entails, rather than JUST USING CAPS LOCK!!!!!11
8)
Yeah, spill the beans 😉
>It does involve eating real, whole foods.
Lots of fruit/veg/fibre, water and a sensible amount of protein/carbs ?
Why the secrecy FC?
FC - does it involve spending all your time and money on books and pyramid selling, so you can't afford to buy food and haven't go the time to get hungry?
garyfisher...there is nothing in this for me.
Apart from sharing something that has totally freed me from the weight issues I've struggled with all my life.
The woman behind this eating plan is a wonderful person.
I have no intention of posting the link on here for all the sceptics and nasties to try to shoot it down on flames.
I will send the link to anyone who emails me.
I am being really honest and open now...this way of eating is life-changing for anyone who struggles with their weight and wants to be free from food cravings.
I was very sceptical about trying yet another diet before I started but could not believe my eyes as the weight fell off!
Getting into size 8 jeans at aged 44 feels pretty good!
Atkins type diets do work in helping people lose weight, researchers assert this is due to a reduced calorie intake and appetite satiation, many proponents originally talked about ketosis but most now admit that calorific deficit is the primary motivating force.
However, I personally would err on the side of caution as it's effects on insulin are very measureable, and contrary to popular belief insulin has many other functions than controlling fat storage. Most worrying is that insulin is an anabolic bone agent, bottom line suppression of insulin may lead to osteparosis. Combined with the fact that many who use the diet are already in high risk osteo groups female, over 45 and exercise little the diet may contribute to increase sufferers of osteoparosis.
Restricting the intake of fruit and vegetables is also likely to effect body systems due to lack of essential vitamins and minerals. OK you can supplement, however trying to ensure adequate loads of 'vits and mins' in tablet form poses many of its own difficulties and pitfalls.
Everyone can do exactly as they please but be careful.
8/10. Surprisingly effective. Well done.
erm......atkins diets usually have a massive base of veg and fruit with protein on top of that. The first phase is restricitve with carbs with all carbs comming from fruit and veg, but after that you taylor it to what works for your level of excersise. It worked for me at the time, just follow it propperly rather than beleive a lot of the myhts that get chucked around.
It does involve buying a book or 2 off t'internet.
TBH FC - I'm glad you've found something that works for you & you believe in but any diet that requires a book or 2 to explain is seriously padding it out a bit
8/10. Surprisingly effective. Well done.
agreed. I think FC is trying to get my flabby arsed hopes up.
8/10 for your troll
tazzy, I know carbs are allowed later in the plan, but most people who I have met who did Atkins simply run the initial phase, stop for a bit then do it again.
Also, according to many independent researchers, the recommended levels of carbs in the Atkins maintenence phase still do not equate to adequate intake of fruits and vegetables.
And Atkins official site still claims ketosisis as the primary cause of weight loss which has been pretty thoroughly debunked by numerous studies and has forced other low carb diet sellers to stop making the claim.
I really don't mind what people do, I was just adding some of my understanding of the issues.
Whatever! 🙄
You can mock all you like, but I'll have the last laugh! 8)
FC - I wasn't mocking you, merely quoting some outcomes from published peer reviewed research.
uplink...I bought 2 books...1 explains the thinking behind the diet with some recipes.
The 2nd is a follow-on recipe book.
I knew you'd all take the piss.
Hope you all stay happy with your big flabby arses!! 8)
didn't mean you dangerousbeans..and I didn't mention Atkins either.
Merely mentioned Atkins as it is the best known of the low carb plans.
I have no doubt they are effective in promoting weight loss ans maintenence, just think people should have some understanding of other, less palatable effects, especially if the systems are abused like with many people I have known.
My way of eating is not low carb.
Go on foxy stick up a link, who cares what a bunch of forumites think of you. If your wearing size 8 at 44 thats great, so sod the opinion of others.
My apologies then FC, I thought you were talking about low carb/ketosis/ insulin suppressing type diets - obviously not.
I'm dying to know but my e-mail has already been pinged off to FC! I've never bothered dieting as I think I'd be useless at it so try to work extra hard at the gym and cut out crap! however I'm lucky in that I've not been over weight, however recently I can feel a few lbs have gone on around the waist and I need to shift it 😉
Good luck one and all but let's not diss other people's diets! I did the diet that they give heart patients who have to loose major weight lose prior to surgery in a week (cabbage soup diet) I lost 1/2 stone in a week and DIDN'T put it back on (despite what people say) however it ruined my stomach for life and means I can't eat bigger meals any more! so that was the end of my dieting!
tails - Member
Go on foxy stick up a link, who cares what a bunch of forumites think of you. If your wearing size 8 at 44 thats great, so sod the opinion of others.
Yeah! And what's more - your claims are useless without pics... 8)
Fc your plan sounds exactly what i'm looking for. Please email me a link muggomagic@gmail.com
what's the worst that could happen?
Jelly-tits that what I thought! Got to be worth a try!!!
>I knew you'd all take the piss.
I'm not sure anyone's taking the piss - apart from mebbe wrt the sales-y stuff 😉
But what does it boil down to ?
I could ask you for the link - I'm genuinely curious - but I suspect that still won't be very informative - after all, if they're trying to flog a book or two they're probably not gonna be in hurry to tell you up front what it is...
>I did the diet that they give heart patients who have to loose major weight lose prior to surgery in a week (cabbage soup diet)
MC - are you **really** sure that's the case - from a web search it appears it may be a myth. I find it difficult to believe a hospital would recommend a crash diet a week before surgery...
Jelly, there's a really straight forward way that involves doing what you do now with no extra effort
[url= http://www.tapewormdiet.net ]tapeworm[/url]
Picolax?
jond...I can assure the link tells you everything you need to know. You can even get the meal plans for free.
BUT I won't be sending it to you.
What a closed minded little man you are! 8)
