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[i]I do like a drink, but I don't think that has much bearing on my weight as I generally drink cider.[/i]
Trolltastic! 🙂
just eat what you want but keep the fat content below 5% and watch your weight drop off.
I discovered a really easy weight-loss eating plan about 6 months ago and it has TOTALLY changed my life.
It does not involve calorie-counting.
It does not involve exercise (I'm not saying exercise is not good for you, but is a ridiculous and time-consuming method of weight control).
The whole eat less/do more idea is a myth. Unless you are a polar explorer of course. 8)
It works well in the short term, but who really enjoys feeling hungry? I know full well that I used to reward myself with loads of rubbish food after an hour in the gym and then an hour's run...I was bluddy starving. 😕
It does not involve low-fat foods.
It does involve eating real, whole foods.
It does involve getting rid of the food cravings we all have which lead us to over-eat.
I've been down the whole exercising like a lunatic/eating low-fat food etc in my 20's and 30's. It's just not a realistic way to live. You should exercise for the enjoyment and health benefits. If you are doing it purely to lose weight, you have to work pretty damned hard and it can be pretty demoralising when the weight does not drop off.
Before you all jump down my throat, I have struggled maintaining my weight at a healthy level for around 25 years and have tried just about everything.
MrFC is 41 and does hours and hours of exercise a week. He started on this eating plan and lost about 10lbs really quickly. He was not over-weight to begin with but felt loads better a bit slimmer.
It is a safe, healthy way of eating that I will now always follow.
About half my colleagues at work now follow it.
The thing is, this forum is so male dominated, with everyone having such rigid views on things, you are just not ready to open your minds and accept that there may just be another way to lose weight THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND INVOLVES VERY LITTLE EFFORT!! 8)
>THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND INVOLVES VERY LITTLE EFFORT!!
Blimey, that sounds like a cut n paste off some internet this-is-the-diet-buy-the-book thing 😉
A few things to add to some of the above posts - the Atkins diet appears to work 'cos the net calory intake is reduced - the relevance of it being protein-centric is that's what triggers the brain to think you're full.
Equally chewing everything thoroughly and not rushing your food (with a more balanced meal) ought to have the same effect.
Beer/cider has colories. A lot of processed food has excessive sugar/salt and fat and you may may well be blowing you calorific intake with that (crisps ffs !) rather than something that has more bulk (not to mention vitamins/minerals)
jond...yes it does...but I'm so passionate about it!!
I now hate seeing people struggle losing weight when I know it's so easy!!
It does involve buying a book or 2 off t'internet...oh, and the important bit...reading them and doing what it says! 🙄
I am now totally free from weight issues for the rest of my life.
you could give us some sort of idea as to what it entails, rather than JUST USING CAPS LOCK!!!!!11
8)
Yeah, spill the beans 😉
>It does involve eating real, whole foods.
Lots of fruit/veg/fibre, water and a sensible amount of protein/carbs ?
Why the secrecy FC?
FC - does it involve spending all your time and money on books and pyramid selling, so you can't afford to buy food and haven't go the time to get hungry?
garyfisher...there is nothing in this for me.
Apart from sharing something that has totally freed me from the weight issues I've struggled with all my life.
The woman behind this eating plan is a wonderful person.
I have no intention of posting the link on here for all the sceptics and nasties to try to shoot it down on flames.
I will send the link to anyone who emails me.
I am being really honest and open now...this way of eating is life-changing for anyone who struggles with their weight and wants to be free from food cravings.
I was very sceptical about trying yet another diet before I started but could not believe my eyes as the weight fell off!
Getting into size 8 jeans at aged 44 feels pretty good!
Atkins type diets do work in helping people lose weight, researchers assert this is due to a reduced calorie intake and appetite satiation, many proponents originally talked about ketosis but most now admit that calorific deficit is the primary motivating force.
However, I personally would err on the side of caution as it's effects on insulin are very measureable, and contrary to popular belief insulin has many other functions than controlling fat storage. Most worrying is that insulin is an anabolic bone agent, bottom line suppression of insulin may lead to osteparosis. Combined with the fact that many who use the diet are already in high risk osteo groups female, over 45 and exercise little the diet may contribute to increase sufferers of osteoparosis.
Restricting the intake of fruit and vegetables is also likely to effect body systems due to lack of essential vitamins and minerals. OK you can supplement, however trying to ensure adequate loads of 'vits and mins' in tablet form poses many of its own difficulties and pitfalls.
Everyone can do exactly as they please but be careful.
8/10. Surprisingly effective. Well done.
erm......atkins diets usually have a massive base of veg and fruit with protein on top of that. The first phase is restricitve with carbs with all carbs comming from fruit and veg, but after that you taylor it to what works for your level of excersise. It worked for me at the time, just follow it propperly rather than beleive a lot of the myhts that get chucked around.
It does involve buying a book or 2 off t'internet.
TBH FC - I'm glad you've found something that works for you & you believe in but any diet that requires a book or 2 to explain is seriously padding it out a bit
8/10. Surprisingly effective. Well done.
agreed. I think FC is trying to get my flabby arsed hopes up.
8/10 for your troll
tazzy, I know carbs are allowed later in the plan, but most people who I have met who did Atkins simply run the initial phase, stop for a bit then do it again.
Also, according to many independent researchers, the recommended levels of carbs in the Atkins maintenence phase still do not equate to adequate intake of fruits and vegetables.
And Atkins official site still claims ketosisis as the primary cause of weight loss which has been pretty thoroughly debunked by numerous studies and has forced other low carb diet sellers to stop making the claim.
I really don't mind what people do, I was just adding some of my understanding of the issues.
Whatever! 🙄
You can mock all you like, but I'll have the last laugh! 8)
FC - I wasn't mocking you, merely quoting some outcomes from published peer reviewed research.
uplink...I bought 2 books...1 explains the thinking behind the diet with some recipes.
The 2nd is a follow-on recipe book.
I knew you'd all take the piss.
Hope you all stay happy with your big flabby arses!! 8)
didn't mean you dangerousbeans..and I didn't mention Atkins either.
Merely mentioned Atkins as it is the best known of the low carb plans.
I have no doubt they are effective in promoting weight loss ans maintenence, just think people should have some understanding of other, less palatable effects, especially if the systems are abused like with many people I have known.
My way of eating is not low carb.
Go on foxy stick up a link, who cares what a bunch of forumites think of you. If your wearing size 8 at 44 thats great, so sod the opinion of others.
My apologies then FC, I thought you were talking about low carb/ketosis/ insulin suppressing type diets - obviously not.
I'm dying to know but my e-mail has already been pinged off to FC! I've never bothered dieting as I think I'd be useless at it so try to work extra hard at the gym and cut out crap! however I'm lucky in that I've not been over weight, however recently I can feel a few lbs have gone on around the waist and I need to shift it 😉
Good luck one and all but let's not diss other people's diets! I did the diet that they give heart patients who have to loose major weight lose prior to surgery in a week (cabbage soup diet) I lost 1/2 stone in a week and DIDN'T put it back on (despite what people say) however it ruined my stomach for life and means I can't eat bigger meals any more! so that was the end of my dieting!
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Go on foxy stick up a link, who cares what a bunch of forumites think of you. If your wearing size 8 at 44 thats great, so sod the opinion of others.
Yeah! And what's more - your claims are useless without pics... 8)
Fc your plan sounds exactly what i'm looking for. Please email me a link muggomagic@gmail.com
what's the worst that could happen?
Jelly-tits that what I thought! Got to be worth a try!!!
>I knew you'd all take the piss.
I'm not sure anyone's taking the piss - apart from mebbe wrt the sales-y stuff 😉
But what does it boil down to ?
I could ask you for the link - I'm genuinely curious - but I suspect that still won't be very informative - after all, if they're trying to flog a book or two they're probably not gonna be in hurry to tell you up front what it is...
>I did the diet that they give heart patients who have to loose major weight lose prior to surgery in a week (cabbage soup diet)
MC - are you **really** sure that's the case - from a web search it appears it may be a myth. I find it difficult to believe a hospital would recommend a crash diet a week before surgery...
Jelly, there's a really straight forward way that involves doing what you do now with no extra effort
[url= http://www.tapewormdiet.net ]tapeworm[/url]
Picolax?
jond...I can assure the link tells you everything you need to know. You can even get the meal plans for free.
BUT I won't be sending it to you.
What a closed minded little man you are! 8)
Caning it on a workout means you're working anaerobically = not using fat storage.
If you want to have you body use stored fat for energy you need to be aerobic in your exercise.
One way is to have a 45 min aerobic ride before breakfast.
FC- why so coy with the links? If it's not a wind-up, why the need to email you?
You said you're being honest, but espousing the virtues of diet "X" or "Y" seems to be smoking mirrors without more concrete information. It's a web forum - so links required please.
Besides, prefixing anything with diet IMHO always seems to mean that you'll only end up back from whence you started, poorer, more depressed and dispirited.
FC - Anything to do with a Dr Kessler perhaps?
Basically avoid processed foods, its evil stuff. Pushed by evil people who just want your money (and you to be fat 
)
If only I could take my own advice...
Well, the links been posted...slate away as you please.
[i]Besides, prefixing anything with diet IMHO always seems to mean that you'll only end up back from whence you started, poorer, more depressed and dispirited. [/i]
Whatever!! 8)
Breakfast: 100g brown rice cereal (from the gluten-free section in supermarkets) with water (not milk)
& for that reason - I'm out
PMSL at uplink!
You really haven't read it have you!
I'm sorry FC [& no I haven't read it] - I'm really not taking the piss but 100g of rice cereal & water after my 6 mile morning run really won't do
uplink...that link posted is pretty crap TBH and I'm pretty pissed off with Rob for posting it.
That is the first 5 days of the diet.
I eat a massive bowl of porridge every morning for my breakfast.
Or bacon, eggs and tomato.
OK - I'll have a good read 🙂
The bacon and eggs for brekky seems like a plan but isn't this green days and red days (or meals) like slimming world (I am being advised by others at this point).
So it actually does rely on you making sensible choices about what you eat, and controlling it. As I mentioned before, you need to put effort in, mental or physical but especially at the start, it will not be easy.
Google ECA. Or training on speed will do nicely. Or thyroxine if you want the Auschwitz look.*
*None of the above is very good for you.