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Depends if they thought the Russians were using it to control him I suppose.
Well since it is extremely unlikely to destroy him how the hell is going to be used to control him ?
Depends if they thought the Russians were using it to control him I suppose.
I suspect he was referring to public support, and I suspect he's right to a degree. Doesn't matter how sexist, or how many derogatory remarks the man himself makes he retains supports.
Whether these latest allegations against Trump are actually true or not is less relevant imo than why they have now come into the public domain.In my personal opinion the primary motive is to damage Trump and sabotage any improved US-Russian relations, both issues are very high on some people's agendas.
Even before this there were some very serious allegations to answer about his relationship with Putin, I think I those who voted for the lying Sexist racist pig would draw the line at being in the pocket of Putin though. If not directly profiting from the job directly at expense of the US is exactly the opposite of what he promised.
Well since it is extremely unlikely to destroy him how the hell is going to be used to control him ?
Probably depends on what their birth certificates say...
These Russians are bloody smart...screw up elections and then manipulate what happens
I think the intent is just to screw about, I don't think they even try to manipulate, my understanding; the intent is [i]just[/i] to mess with it enough so that it's a state of confusion all the time...don't really need to manipulate anything then.
Even before this there were some very serious allegations to answer about his relationship with Putin, I think I those who voted for the lying Sexist racist pig would draw the line at being in the pocket of Putin though.
Yep, there were also plenty of allegations about his relationship with Putin [u]before[/u] the US presidential election. And everyone knew that Putin wanted Trump to win.
July 2016 : [i][b]"Russia if you're listening, I hope you find Hillary Clinton's missing emails"[/i][/b]
He still won the election.
Being indebted to Putin or being backed by Putin obviously did not damage him sufficiently to lose the election.
The Pentagon is changing the nuclear codes to over 140 characters...
So Trump can't tweet it.
Source: reddit
Well since it is extremely unlikely to destroy him how the hell is going to be used to control him ?
At the moment it is easily brushed aside as fake news.
[b]If[/b] it isn't fake and the Russians had some nice damning video/photographic evidence of Trump curling one out then that would probably be a very different story.
But to be honest I suspect that story probably is fake (possibly with a few facts hidden amongst it to be disposed of with the same brush).
These Russians are bloody smart in modern warfare. So much cheaper and effective to win the cyber war, screw up elections and then manipulate what happensAwful but brilliant
Vladislav Serkov is a political genius, him and Putin have utterly out flanked the west....
The only way Trump will get impeached is if he does something illegal, a very plausible scenario imo. Allegations of paying prostitutes to piss on a posh hotel bed will have no effect beyond a bit of mud-slinging.
Indeed revelations that former US President Bill Clinton engaged in adulterous activities and arranged for a young White House intern to preform perverted sex acts in the Oval Office for him did not cost Clinton his political career.
Since when is a blow job perverted?
Or did she hoof him in the Lincolns at the same time?
These Russians are bloody smart in modern warfare. So much cheaper and effective to win the cyber war, screw up elections and then manipulate what happensAwful but brilliant
Vladislav Serkov is a political genius, him and Putin have utterly out flanked the west....
The United States has known for decades that interfering and manipulating elections can be a lot cheaper and easier than going to war.
It's hardly a new idea.
US interfered in Russian elections FFS -Yeltsin. And Ukraine recently. They've been at it non stop for 50 years.
Since when is a blow job perverted?
I wasn't talking about that. Asking a young intern to masturbate with a large Cuban cigar before you smoke it, with your wife presumably not too far away, isn't particularly natural - outside the world of perverts of course.
Hmmm. I need to take a long hard look at myself.
I wasn't talking about that. Asking a young intern to masturbate with a large Cuban cigar before you smoke it, with your wife presumably not too far away, isn't particularly natural - outside the world of perverts of course.
Are you a virgin Ernie?
Maybe he's just a non-smoker? 😀
Hmmm. I need to take a long hard look at myself.
At the very least delete your browsing history
Maybe he's just a non-smoker?
Not quite, I have the occasional roll-up. Don't like them soggy though.
Don't like them soggy though.
hence the use of a nice thick rolled cigar, not so absorbent.
At the very least delete your browsing history
And turn off your web cam for God's sake!
Don't like them soggy though.
😆
And turn off your web cam for God's sake!
Not yet, I haven't finished.
These Russians are bloody smart in modern warfare. So much cheaper and effective to win the cyber war, screw up elections and then manipulate what happensAwful but brilliant
Trump is a failed businessman, with no political background. He flaunts his wealth as if it just grew there, and boasts about paying no taxes.
Putin is arguably one of the nastiest and most ruthless products of the KGB, arguably the nastiest and most ruthless of intelligence agencies to have existed. He is personally worth $Billions, but all of it acquired on the sly and none of it directly in his name. He has been directly responsible for the deaths of many of his own countrymen for publicly criticising or disagreeing with him, in a way only Stalin would have approved.
Scared yet? You should be...
Having the president of the US in your pocket is simply outstanding work by the Russians.
See my above comments... Trump believes this is a popularity contest, and he wants to be the first president in his lifetime to forge a meaningful alliance with Russia. He genuinely believes Putin wants to be a friend!
Putin is the shrewdest of the shrewd, and is very good at playing the waiting game.
Being indebted to Putin or being backed by Putin obviously did not damage him sufficiently to lose the election.
It helped him win! I doubt Trump has any direct debt to Putin, Putin knows Trump is naieve and is merely waiting to exploit the situation ruthlessly. He will offer the hand of friendship to Trump, and then begin trying to control him (if he isn't already) in a way we've not seen before!
Vladislav Serkov is a political genius, him and Putin have utterly out flanked the west....
Never underestimate Russian intelligence... They are, and always have been, the absolute masters at it!
The United States has known for decades that interfering and manipulating elections can be a lot cheaper and easier than going to war.It's hardly a new idea.
You suggesting the US rigged the election, knowing that Democratic relations with Russia have been getting more and more strained for some time, and that Trump admires Putin? 😯
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The United States has known for decades that interfering and manipulating elections can be a lot cheaper and easier than going to war.
It's hardly a new idea.
You suggesting the US rigged the election, knowing that Democratic relations with Russia have been getting more and more strained for some time, and that Trump admires Putin? I rather think he's suggesting that the US have interfered in the democratic process in other countries in the past.
mboy - MemberScared yet? You should be...
Not in the slightest. I know I ought to be. Can you give another go please?
I rather think he's suggesting that the US have interfered in the democratic process in other countries in the past.
Yes I get that inference, but in the context of the US election that has just happened, which is the topic of discussion here, it could be taken differently.
Not in the slightest. I know I ought to be. Can you give another go please?
Putin thinks nothing of flexing his muscles as and when he feels like it. Be it flying armed fighter/bombers into foreign airspace, assassinating key diplomats/businessmen anywhere in the world when he needs them silenced, getting involved in Syria in the way they have etc. He's die hard old school KGB through and through, he's taken Russia back from being a modern Democracy with liberal views, to a nation that is near enough a dictatorship in all but name, where liberal views are at best mocked and often enough not allowed. He is a cold war dinosaur, on a mission to line his own pockets and make Russia an economic and military force to be reckoned with at the expense of the rest of the world.
And even ignoring all the latest allegations of Russian hacking into the US elections, the very least you should know is that the forthcoming US president looks up to Putin, and wants to be his friend!
Fun times...
No, nothing, still not feeling the fear.
Wait.........[i] "the very least you should know is that the forthcoming US president looks up to Putin, and wants to be his friend!"[/i]
Well.....erm......nope ..........still nothing 🙁
A US president who wants to be friends with Russia doesn't fill me with fear. Thanks for trying anyway 🙂
well Putin's pick for scretary of state just said he thinks putin directed the hacking, hes now getting pushed by Rubio to declare Putin a war criminal
the golden showers video could be released sooner than we think
An isolationist US president elect who is watering down his commitment to Nato , looking up to and avoiding challenging an expansionist Russsian president, who is testing and expanding his western borders and influence at a time when European cohesion is weakening, is of concern. More so if that Russian President has financial ties to that US President and damaging Dirt on him.
At the very least we could be pushed into the expense and risk of a new cold war.
A US president who wants to be friends with Russia doesn't fill me with fear. Thanks for trying anyway
Maybe have a bit of a google about Vladimir Putin'a foreign policies and how he does business. Everything is always on his terms...
An isolationist US president elect who is watering down his commitment to Nato , looking up to and avoiding challenging an expansionist Russsian president, who is testing and expanding his western borders and influence at a time when European cohesion is weakening, is of concern. More so if that Russian President has financial ties to that US President and damaging Dirt on him.
Basically what I said but more eloquently put...
At the very least we could be pushed into the expense and risk of a new cold war.
Which is preferable to the alternative... America becomes Russia's puppet and starts flexing its muscles on the rest of the world as Putin sees fit!
Spicer dismissed the reports contained in the documents as wholly false [b]and[/b] riddled with inaccuracies.
Shouldn't it be one or the other?
He's just accused the US intelligence agencies of leaking the story 😯
He actually is a real life Eric Cartman.
Barely literate and a petulant sociopath
Talks absolute nonsense.
Protest vote or not, how the hell did almost 70 million vote for him??? He makes Dubya sound eloquent and intelligent.
I'd say Trump wants to be friends with Putin but not vice versa, Putin is playing them, leaking the Clinton stuff to get Trump in, then leak the trumps stuff to destroy him, all while pretending to be nice Mr Putin. I'm sure the US have been doing similar to other countries for long enough so I can't really feel sorry for them, they fell for it hook, line and sinker! Maybe...
We're all ****ed. The free world is being led by a child clown.
that was hilarious
No conflict of interest between his business dealings and his role of President. Yeah, right.
He makes TM Brexit strategy like a good plan.
[i]He makes TM Brexit strategy like a [s]good[/s] plan. [/i]
steady on and ftfy.
That would have been much more amusing with a lie detector running. His body language said he was uneasy with some of his declarations.
[s]Binners thinks that[/s] anyone who refers to himself consistently in the third person should be locked in a dark cellar, and only taken out to be beaten repeatedly until they stop doing it
Live press conference time:
I think what we saw was something like alzheimers meeting ritalin
Listen to the President-Elect Trump speech? Yes?
Yesss, sounds like many of the Trump's critics will soon be shitting in their pants. They are all going to be hammered hard, very hard ... 😆
If you lot (the critics) live in Merica you nightmare will start very soon. 😆
"BBC News" ... "That's another beauty." ... brilliant. 😆
[i]"BBC News" ... "That's another beauty." [/i]
I suddenly felt very proud to be British.
I shall pay double my licence fee this year 🙂
Is the president punishing his critics a good thing chewkw? Surely free speech should allow critics and the president shouldn't be petty?
The bloke is absolutely unhinged!
I reckon with his scattergun approach to slagging everyone off who dares to criticise him, being particularly venomous to the intelligence agencies and the security services, he'll be dead within 6 months 😯
The press are completely unable to hold him to account.
The only time they got close was askign questions that needed specific factual answers.
Asking him how he feels just gives the clown a chance to perform.
If you lot (the critics) live in Merica you nightmare will start very soon. 😆
You think it'd be a [i]good thing[/i] to live somewhere where you are not allowed to be critical of the Dear Leader?
They are all going to be hammered hard, very hard ...
Hammers aren't so bad. It's when they start using anti-aircraft guns that you have to worry.
He's not the most articulate of speakers, is he.
What did I just watch? Peter Griffin just got handed the leading role in a Godfather sequel - 'Trumpfather 4 - The Wreckoning'?
will every press conference PEEOUTUS gives be this much of a shitshow?!
I reckon with his scattergun approach to slagging everyone off who dares to criticise him, being particularly venomous to the intelligence agencies and the security services, he'll be dead within 6 months
I think if Pence had to replace him, that would be even worse. I know it is hard to believe that Trump isn't rock bottom, but it doesn't take much digging into Pence's political history to see what a truly hate filled bigoted man who believes in his own righteousness he is, he is just as mad as Trump, but with the intent and fervour of a true believer.
He's not the most articulate of speakers, is he
Frankie Boyle described his public speaking as 'like someone trying to remember the last few seconds of a car crash' 😆
That question for Trump about media reform came from a Breitbart reporter, it turns out.
Eli Stokols
(@EliStokols)
And now Matt Boyle asks Trump what do about fake news.
January 11, 2017
Ben Jacobs
(@Bencjacobs)
Irony is dea
@jamie,I know it's futile but I find it hard to ignore stupidity. Full time job on this thread apparently though.
Dumbest question came from the BBC, half an hour after the "revelations" had been covered and vigorously denied by Trump the toff from the Beeb piped up with something to the effect of "will you be resigning if the allegations are found to be correct".
****ter and conference appearances are equally disturbing for a friend - you would be worried about their sanity. But this is the President of the US. Now I am worried about all our sanity
These Ruskies have really won this time.
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wwaswas - Member
"BBC News" ... "That's another beauty."
I suddenly felt very proud to be British.
I shall pay double my licence fee this year
Yes, do it. You are good. 😆
That depends. If the critics can be hammered hard so be it. Hammer them hardest possible. If the critics can hammer the President-Elect Trump hard then do so. Winners take all. Hammer time!akira - Member
Is the president punishing his critics a good thing chewkw? Surely free speech should allow critics and the president shouldn't be petty?
You showing concern for President-Elect Trump? He should slag them off if they deserve to be slag off. Should not hold back as a President-Elect/President. You do not elect a leader to be a coward.binners - Member
The bloke is absolutely unhinged!I reckon with his scattergun approach to slagging everyone off who dares to criticise him, being particularly venomous to the intelligence agencies and the security services, he'll be dead within 6 months
That depends on the person. If the person can survive and wait for the time to pass so be it but if the person cannot then run like hell which is fine too. You do whatever you need. You may fight but if you loose then face the consequences but if you win all power to you. Winner takes all.GrahamS - Member
You think it'd be a good thing to live somewhere where you are not allowed to be critical of the Dear Leader?
30mm GAU-8 Gatling gun is scarier.Hammers aren't so bad. It's when they start using anti-aircraft guns that you have to worry.
outofbreath - Member
He's not the most articulate of speakers, is he.
... because he is not trained to be the snake with forked tongue. The more they twist and turn their words the higher their forked tongue skills.
Malvern Rider - Member
What did I just watch? Peter Griffin just got handed the leading role in a Godfather sequel - 'Trumpfather 4 - The Wreckoning'?
Peter Griffin is my hero.
Brian Griffin is the dog with strong political views. 😆
chewkw - does your carer know you're off your meds again?
Edukator - Reformed TrollDumbest question came from the BBC, half an hour after the "revelations" had been covered and vigorously denied by Trump the toff from the Beeb piped up with something to the effect of "will you be resigning if the allegations are found to be correct".
😆 "That's another beauty" (President-Elect Trump).
Some of the reporters are desperately asking dumb questions shouting like their career promotion depends on shouting questions so funny. 😆
binners - Member
chewkw - does your carer know you're off your meds again?
Oh c'mon ... the reporters cannot even report properly. 😛
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Chewkw, you seem to find traits that I discourage in my kids to be a positive thing for the POTUS. Pretty sure that's not good.
Jezza C must be as happy as a fat spider! This is all a lovely distraction from his cluster of a relaunch.
creator of Peter Griffin agrees Peter Griffin is gonna be a bad president
Seth MacFarlane ?@SethMacFarlane 38m38 minutes ago
I've never seen anything like this press conference as long as I've been alive. We are in dark waters.
There are not many positive things in leadership because something must give regardless of who they are. That is the nature of things.akira - Member
Chewkw, you seem to find traits that I discourage in my kids to be a positive thing for the POTUS. Pretty sure that's not good.
kimbers - Member
creator of Peter Griffin agrees Peter Griffin is gonna be a bad presidentSeth MacFarlane ?@SethMacFarlane 38m38 minutes ago
I've never seen anything like this press conference as long as I've been alive. We are in dark waters.
The creator of Family Guy is a good at poking fun at life but it does not mean a critic is able to handle reality. A critic is always a critic. Some good, some bad, some funny and some not. Remember, even he acknowledged that he could only get away with his jokes because it is an animation. Without animation he has no show.
So you're saying family guy can get away with stuff that Trump couldn't say?
The creator of Family Guy can get away with "murder". 😆akira - Member
So you're saying family guy can get away with stuff that Trump couldn't say?
I guess Trump can only get away with fraud, racism, sexual assault, rape, ripping off contractors, misuse of charitable donations and sexism. So I see your point.
The worst thing about all this is that at some point in the not too distant future, when it best suits Vlad, we're all going to end up having seen an internet film of 'The Donald' doing unspeakable things to prostitutes in a Moscow hotel room 😥
My name is Don.
It was a prophecy:
Is that your 'guilty until proven innocence' verdict?akira - Member
I guess Trump can only get away with fraud, racism, sexual assault, rape, ripping off contractors, misuse of charitable donations and sexism. So I see your point.
Is that your 'guilty until proven innocence' verdict?
Which ones are you claiming are charges that he's 100% innoent on?
All 100% innocence.captainsasquatch - Member
Is that your 'guilty until proven innocence' verdict?
Which ones are you claiming are charges that he's 100% innoent on?
All 100% innocence.
Yet even he has admitted grabbing pussy. Even you can't deny that.
Are you staying that all the allegations and testimonies against him are false, because there have been a lot of them. I guess if we conservatively say half of it is unfounded then he still doesn't look good. Maybe I should try Trumps attitude of guilty after proven innocent like with the central park five?
Alec Baldwin is going to have some fun this Saturday
Is trump going to explode before he even gets sworn in ?
if the Apprentice n-word tapes get released get released b4 then too 😳
Watched the press conference with an Italian colleague she was so happy that Burlusconi was no longer the most embarrassing world leader
I am just looking at all the conflicting information to make up my own mind
No you're not, you're just blindly regurgitating Trump's twitter feed in a desperate attempt to compensate for whatever it is that's wrong wth you.
At the very least we could be pushed into the expense and risk of a new cold war.Which is preferable to the alternative... America becomes Russia's puppet and starts flexing its muscles on the rest of the world as Putin sees fit!
Very melodramatic stuff, still I guess that's the intention. "America becomes Russia's puppet" ffs.
I trust Trump less than I trust Putin. Therefore I would be rather pleased if I saw evidence that Putin had some sort of influence over Trump. I fear however that this is unlikely to be the case.
Having said that however, it does appear that US policy will now change to one which is not constantly antagonising and threatening Russia.
Hopefully too Russia will be able to fight terrorism without interference à la Hilary Clinton.
So for those reasons Putin influence over Trump isn't necessary
BTW I consider Mike Pence to be a deeply dangerous man who is considerably less trustworthy than Trump. I certainly hope the Russians have something on him.