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Pence? Talk about getting short changed.
Yep, but I would suspect some carnage, if you were being malicious dropping it next Thursday would be the plan.
Looks like the snowball sat on the top of the hill is being nudged today.
If nothing else, the tag #watersportsgate trending on Twitter is pretty inspired.
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my favourites so far
What's the difference between a lentil and a chickpea?
Trump wouldn't pay $1000 to have a lentil on his face.
Does this mean Slash will play the inauguration?
Trump should step down at the earliest public convenience.
Golden showers .....I take it he's pissed off with that.
It's anyone else wetting themselves at the irony of the man behind the Obama birther claims tweeting
[b] "FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!"[/b]
😆
anyone else wetting themselves
Hope you're getting paid for that. 🙂
I assume the bookies think President-Elect Trump will not last the term ... Good.
I believe betting odds are based on a balance of probability and risk. So if too much money goes on the probable outcome they'll shift the odds to encourage bets the other way.
Any water sports. Why not, I'm fairly tolerant and what anybody does in posh hotels with prostitutes is no business of mine.
This says it all really
Manchurian candidate is go?
Or the Micturition Candidate perhaps? 😆
Well as this is probably just an elaborate and incredibly well researched spoof there should be nothing more than a quick denial needed. But just in case I think it's only fair that he release all of his travel plans and receipts from the trips in question along with bank accounts and witness statements as to his whereabouts and that of the people mentioned along with any documentary evidence of what the meetings were about and explanations of any gaps. As for the tapes if somebody could just hack the FSB and get them it would be great. Otherwise everytime he does something that is even slightly sympathetic to Russia he will be open to suspicion of collusion of being blackmailed. It's a tough call but I think we can all agree full disclosure is the only option.
Yes he'll probably disclose everything when he's tax returns have finished being audited.
ernie_lynch - Member
I predict that you'll still be talking shite in five years time. Fancy a bet on that?
That's just taking the piss...
I always liked John McCain.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts ]John McCain passes intelligence report to FBI - Gruaniad link[/url]
Conducted himself with dignity when he lost to Obama in 2008.
[url= http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/09/18/mccain-2008-presidential-campaign-audience-question-on-obama-as-arab.cnn ]From 2008: McCain corrects woman calling Obama an "arab"[/url]
Hopefully he'll spend the rest of his term blocking Trump
At least we know why the Russians chose wiki[b]leaks[/b] as the site dump all their hacked info !
A further irony is that this alleged info was obtained for the Republicans when they were trying to discredit Trump.
It also includes financial wrongdoing, does that mean the Russians have trump's tax returns and the American public don't ? 😯
Even if trump were impeached or whatever, they also hacked the reps and are allegedly sitting on that data too, so they could still be pulling the strings if trump were gone- tho Pence wouldn't be as easily manipulated.
As for chewks predictions- he assured us trump would get rid of all the goldman-sachs execs in the government, instead there's more than ever!
This is worse than Cameron's porcine predicament for punning.
My favourites so far:
Remember folks, these are only allegations.There could be a vas deferens between this and the truth.
and
Didn't realise Trump was so heavily into trickle-down economics.
I wonder if Urethra Franklin would sing at his inauguration ?
My tinfoil hat take on it all
Trump owes bazillions to some very nasty Russians/Putin
He can't pay
They threaten to kill him and his whole family
They "suggest" that he runs for president and that they'll have complete control over him (or they'll kill him/them all)
He reluctantly agrees, but on the condition that if he doesn't win the vote in the end that all debts are null and void
Putin agrees
Trump starts campaigning, as he wants the easy route out he tells all his lies, let's all the hatred etc come out thinking that no one will ever consider voting for him
Putin wise to this so releases the Hilary emails etc
Trump wins, and as you can tell by his face/body language he never expected it and is sh*****g himself, he now has to run the country whilst answering to Putin, or else.
Already things aren't going how Putin likes it so as a show of force releases *some* of the info he has on Trump as a warning.
*Puts tinfoil hat back on
If I'm never heard from again, check my teapot and avenge my death!
As for chewks predictions- he assured us trump would get rid of all the goldman-sachs execs in the government, instead there's more than ever!
Yep, chewkw also [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/donald-trump/page/78?replies=2862#post-8104363 ]assured us[/url] that:
[b]"The whole world is looking at him so I doubt he is going to be so naive to involve his family that much."[/b]
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He must've misheard the term 'Goldman Sachs'.
Allegedly Comey had this info on Trump being blackmailed by the Russians the same time he got the info on the Hilary hack, but he didn't write to Congress or the public about that, obvs !
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It seems some STWers like a conspiracy theory as much as the Americans
All total bollox ....
Jamie I'll stand by those predictions, he's going to do a decent enough job and get re-elected in 2020. He's going to light a fire under NATO countries that don't meet the 2% spending target (Germany has already said it's going from 1.2 to 2) and he will use the dominant seat at the IMF to ensure it (and the US) gets a very very good deal out of any eurozone bailout/restructuring. His focus will be primarily domestic, he will build a wall and he will bring jobs back to the US via tariffs / NAFTA renegotiation.
jambalaya - Member
It seems some STWers like a conspiracy theory as much as the AmericansAll total bollox ....
true or not its amusing that the hero of breitbart is getting upset at fake news and conspiracy theories
the details of his advisors trips to Russia and alleged meetings with putins agents at least expose his potential conflicts of interests, even if golden showers and blackmail were never discussed
it also highlights the hypocrisy of Comey at the FBI
All total bollox ....
That's irrelevant these days. It must be true. It's why his hair is that colour
kimbers people in the oil/gas business visit Russia a lot. BP had a JV there. There are numerous contracts between Russia and the EU for gas supply.
it also highlights the hypocrisy of Comey at the FBI
Ot really doesn't. Clinton carried our classified government business on an insecure personal email server. Then deleted 10's thousands of emails so the FBI couod not check them.
The anti-Trump circle jerk reminds me a lot of the Remainers ... he won and people better get used to it.
Jamba,what's going to happen if we don't ?
Sidebar: Why do any of you lot engage with Jamba on politics threads? Surely by now you realise you'd be better off herding cats? I am straight down the middle on this one, and I can see Comey has opened himself up to being called a hypocrite, given his statements before and after the election.
#RONPAUL2020!
more than enough evidence that clinton wasnt the only one to use private email servers
[url= http://www.snopes.com/g-w-bush-lost-22-million-e-mails/ ]one rule for one...one for another[/url]
It seems some STWers like a conspiracy theory as much as the Americans
Let's not forget that Trump is a huge conspiracy theorist himself eh?
All total bollox ....
Well if you want my tinfoil-hat spin it's that some easily discreditable stuff has been released for everyone to have a laugh about, with the aim of watering down and damning by association the inconvenient and far more credible allegations regarding the Russian hacking.
SOP for The Man as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned: dilute the credible with the incredible.
The anti-Trump circle jerk reminds me a lot of the Remainers ... he won and people better get used to it.
haha just wait until the FSB blackmailing of farage and funding ukip comes out, you know with little hitler itll be worse, anyone seen the Acid House? that scene where he becomes a fly on the wall to his parents shenanigans- farage is definitely a faecal freak 😉
I'm not engaging with him on politics,I'm engaging with him on the basis that he he's an evasive apparently unpleasant person,with as much regard for the truth and evidence as he has for people who earn less than him.
it also nicely deflects from him breaking nepotism laws by appointing his son in law.....
Sidebar: Why do any of you lot engage with Jamba on politics threads? Surely by know you realise you'd be better off herding cats?
Yep, exactly my thinking. Just going round in a great big circles fueled by made up nonsense.
Why do any of you lot engage with Jamba on politics threads? Surely by now you realise you'd be better off herding cats?
Exactly the conclusion I came to about 6 months ago..
Well the Russian are turning the screw on Lepen,
Looks like they planned this very well covering all angles.
Well done Mr Putin, a true masterclass in foreign policy.
jambalaya - Member
It seems some STWers like a conspiracy theory as much as the AmericansAll total bollox
And as you are so fond as telling us bollocks wins... Don't you think this should be properly investigated?
I wasn't sure whether to post this on the EU thread or here, but given this one is the latest to roll into anti-jamba posts:
*NSFW swear warning*
We'll only ever moved forward and heal divisions by talking to the other side and trying to understand where they are coming from, even if you don't particularly like what they are saying.
jambalaya - Member
It seems some STWers like a conspiracy theory as much as the Americans
All total bolloxAnd as you are so fond as telling us bollocks wins... Don't you think this should be properly investigated?
indeed you were very excited to show us Dominic Cummings blog where he explained how crucial total bollx had been to Vote Leave's victory
We'll only ever moved forward and heal divisions by talking to the other side and trying to understand where they are coming from, even if you don't particularly like what they are saying.
It's nothing to do with liking or disliking what someone says. It's more the steadfast refusal to concede any points I was commentating on.
But good luck on your endeavors.
My favourite bit;
Dmitry Peskov insisted that the Kremlin “does not engage in collecting compromising material.”
mmm Bertie Bullshitter called and asked for a ball back.
It's nothing to do with liking or disliking what someone says. It's more the steadfast refusal to concede any points I was commentating on.
But what can you expect from a failed business man with a massive chip on his shoulder?
We'll only ever moved forward and heal divisions by talking to the other side and trying to understand where they are coming from, even if you don't particularly like what they are saying.
Pfft - if you follow that chain of thought you'll end up talking to the IRA, Hezbullah and co. and where will that end?
Trump owes bazillions to some very nasty Russians/Putin
He can't pay
They threaten to kill him and his whole family
They "suggest" that he runs for president and that they'll have complete control over him (or they'll kill him/them all)
He reluctantly agrees, but on the condition that if he doesn't win the vote in the end that all debts are null and void
Putin agrees
Trump starts campaigning, as he wants the easy route out he tells all his lies, let's all the hatred etc come out thinking that no one will ever consider voting for him
Putin wise to this so releases the Hilary emails etc
Trump wins, and as you can tell by his face/body language he never expected it and is sh*****g himself, he now has to run the country whilst answering to Putin, or else.
Already things aren't going how Putin likes it so as a show of force releases *some* of the info he has on Trump as a warning.
Loving your take on it houns!
Sadly I believe the only bit of it that is true is that Putin does indeed hold some clout over Trump. The rest of it would be brilliant if true, but sadly I think Trump really is that narcissistic that he truly believes he's right all the time and is effectively invincible.
Whatever Putin has got on Trump though... It's not small... It's going to be a total and utter cluster**** for everyone involved, not just Trump. He's probably got his tax returns, details of every prostitute he's ever slept with, camera footage of the alleged rapes, and all sorts of other shit. When you upset as many people as Donald Trump has on your way to the top, somebody is always poised to bring you down big time should they choose to.
And that man is Putin!
Dmitry Peskov insisted that the Kremlin “does not engage in collecting compromising material.”
That is Blairesque in its brazenness.
😆 The amount of desperate fake news coming out from President-Elect Trump oppositions have gone so high, most of the Merican news are no longer credible.
People got to be so stupid to believe all the Merican media now. The news is so hyped up now we are all writing our own news as we go along. Most of the news are fake there is no truth in them apart from feeding trying to capture news audience with whatever tactics they can.
There is none that[u] is employed [/u]by goldman-sachs. Are you trying to better the fake news of who President-Elect Trump employed? Do they need your permission? 😆As for chewks predictions- he assured us trump would get rid of all the goldman-sachs execs in the government, instead there's more than ever!
I really need to give the dev who wrote chewkw a pat on the back. Excellent work.
Will it be ok if Trump was banging his whores in Nevada?
most of the Merican news are no longer credible.
And there you go.. a demonstration of what I said above.
Bounce out a bit of easily discreditable fluff, give people a laugh and dismiss it as "fake news".
..and by association leave the impression that the whole Russian hacking thing was also "fake news" (despite the findings of the FBI/CIA/Homeland Security and that even Trump's own team now accept that it happened).
That king-size duvet really tied the room together.
Jamie - Member
I really need to give the dev who wrote chewkw a pat on the back. Excellent work.
Remember all the Merican news are so fake you have no ways of knowing if any of them are credible at all.
In fact most media are heading in that direction because of the rise of interweb news. Competition is high so they need to get their timing right to spew out fake news. Mainstream media also use fake news but they usually apologise later or twist the information to make them credible but once they have captured the attention of the people ... their rating increase.
People are so desperate for news that suits them they will use whatever information available from the interweb to justify their views.
Most will even quote the information to make them look rational or credible but without knowing exactly who write them.
😆
GrahamS - Member
most of the Merican news are no longer credible.
And there you go.. a demonstration of what I said above.Bounce out a bit of easily discreditable fluff, give people a laugh and dismiss it as "fake news".
You are the fake news target audience so you buy into all their news no surprise there because of the desperation to object President-Elect Trump.
Please note that President-Elect Trump has not even taken office yet and there are already fake news full spin. Imagine he is in the office you will see fake news explosion into many folds.
..and by association leave the impression that the whole Russian hacking thing was also "fake news" (despite the findings of the FBI/CIA/Homeland Security and that even Trump's own team now accept that it happened).
Too many questions ...
Why do the media get those CIA information first?
Why do they get the priority to have to information?
Who say "... even Trump's own team now accept that it happened ..."?
Absolutely hilarious ...
Well if you want my tinfoil-hat spin it's that some easily discreditable stuff has been released for everyone to have a laugh about, with the aim of watering down and damning by association the inconvenient and far more credible allegations regarding the Russian hacking.
Think I agree with this.
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump is behind it as well. Release an absurd story hoping media picks it up, then show it to be false.
Then deny all the other potentially true Trump-Putin news stories in the same way.
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump is behind it as well. Release an absurd story hoping media picks it up, then show it to be false.
I think that's crediting him with way too much intelligence.
HoratioHufnagel - Member
Well if you want my tinfoil-hat spin it's that some easily discreditable stuff has been released for everyone to have a laugh about, with the aim of watering down and damning by association the inconvenient and far more credible allegations regarding the Russian hacking.Think I agree with this.
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump is behind it as well. Release an absurd story hoping media picks it up, then show it to be false.
Then deny all the other potentially true Trump-Putin news stories in the same way.
[b]People voted Mrs Clinton out way before all the news but she just did not know it because she was surrounded by people that fed her fake information. All mainstream news gave her the lead in poll.[/b] 😆
Whatever the relation between Trump-Putin is fine as different leaders approach relationship differently. I certainly see the previous admin as nothing but trouble making.
bencooper - Member
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump is behind it as well. Release an absurd story hoping media picks it up, then show it to be false.
I think that's crediting him with way too much intelligence.
If going by your logic Trump is dumb yet he wins so what does that make to the other politicians? Are you saying a case of dumb and dumber? Guess who are dumber. 😆
Absolutely hilarious ...
You do your best, but I'd say your gullibility is more sad than funny
Looking at his twitter I'm imagining he's locked in a struggle with his press team over possession of his phone.
"Stop Donald! For the love of god stop tweeting!"
"But! But! This is FAKE NEWS! And it's not MY fake news!"
*wrestling continues*
People voted Mrs Clinton out way before all the news but she just did not know it because she was surrounded by people that fed her fake information. All mainstream news gave her the lead in poll.
She got 3 million more votes. Or is that fake news too?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
...SECHIN's associate said that the Rosneft president was so keen to lift personal and corporate sanctions ... that he offered PAGE/TRUMP's associates the brokerage of up to a 19% (privatised) stake in Rosneft in return.PAGE had expressed interest and confirmed that were TRUMP elected US president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted.
Why do the media get those CIA information first?
Why do they get the priority to have to information?
Errr.. they don't?
The Director of National Intelligence only published the [url= https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf ]public declassified version of the report[/url] on the 6th of January.
Who say "... even Trump's own team now accept that it happened ..."?
Reince Priebus? Donald Trump's Chief of Staff.
You can listen to the interview yourself on Fox News (hardly a left wing channel!)
"I think he accepts the finding," Priebus said. [b]"He's not denying entities in Russia are behind these particular hackings."[/b]
Here's the Reuters version for those that can't bear Fox News:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14S0O6
I am just looking at all the conflicting information to make up my own mind as I don't believe any of them. If I may look like agreeing with one side of the story this is because the other side has done it so poorly the information or "news" to me does not make sense. For example, most if not all the media was against President-Elect Trump because of his position in society prior to his Presidency wins, so they want to discredit him ... surprise?BigButSlimmerBloke - Member
Absolutely hilarious ...
You do your best, but I'd say your gullibility is more sad than funny
These Russians are bloody smart in modern warfare. So much cheaper and effective to win the cyber war, screw up elections and then manipulate what happens
Awful but brilliant
(I always felt uncomfortable in the Moscow Metropole or Kempinsky)
For example, most if not all the media was against President-Elect Trump because of his position in society prior to his Presidency wins, so they want to discredit him ... surprise?
Not true. Mainstream American media treated him as a joke candidate for a very long time and only when they realised that he was in with a good chance of winning and that they would be seen as culpable did they start to attack him.
These Russians are bloody smart in modern warfare. So much cheaper and effective to win the cyber war, screw up elections and then manipulate what happensAwful but brilliant
the biggest trouble was finding a crowbar big enough to fit between the top and the bottom. 😉
Having the president of the US in your pocket is simply outstanding work by the Russians.
Trump, Brexit - Putin, the KGB agent, is just very good at playing the long game.
GrahamS - Member
Why do the media get those CIA information first?
Why do they get the priority to have to information?Errr.. they don't?
The Director of National Intelligence published the public declassified version of the report on the 6th of January.
Firstly, information is from the CIA. What is their role again?
Reince Priebus? Donald Trump's Chief of Staff.
You can listen to the interview yourself on Fox News (hardly a left wing channel!)
Again media spins. His [u][b]opinion [/b][/u]so he can say whatever he wants. Note that Fox is a reluctant supporter of Trump.
"I think he accepts the finding," Priebus said. "He's not denying entities in Russia are behind these particular hackings."
Crikey, you even quote that.
"I think ..." <- that's his opinion. I think he is wrong. My opinion.
"... He's not denying ..." <- Of course not because nobody knows apart from speculation so how do you deny something you don't know?
muppetWrangler - Member
For example, most if not all the media was against President-Elect Trump because of his position in society prior to his Presidency wins, so they want to discredit him ... surprise?
Not true. Mainstream American media treated him as a joke candidate for a very long time and only when they realised that he was in with a good chance of winning and that they would be seen as culpable did they start to attack him.
You wonder why? Business competition perhaps? He knows their owners etc and has been critical of them for a long time ... so business competitors trying to discredit him. Surprise? Nope.
Breibart is decrying the story as fake news, which is ironic.
I have of course no idea what the truth is or isn't behind this latest allegation. But I do know that some people appear to have completely forgotten how Trump came to win the US Presidential election.
Half the American people willingly voted for a man to become their next president despite knowing that he hadn't paid any taxes, boasted of sexually assaulting women, and mocks the disabled.
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Under those circumstances revelations that several years ago he paid prostitutes to urinate on a hotel bed formerly used by Obama is extremely unlikely to destroy him.
Indeed revelations that former US President Bill Clinton engaged in adulterous activities and arranged for a young White House intern to preform perverted sex acts in the Oval Office for him did not cost Clinton his political career.
Whether these latest allegations against Trump are actually true or not is less relevant imo than why they have now come into the public domain.
In my personal opinion the primary motive is to damage Trump and sabotage any improved US-Russian relations, both issues are very high on some people's agendas.
Whatever the truth I wouldn't attach too much importance to what seems to be a bit of inconsequential mud-slinging.
Breibart is decrying the story as fake news, which is ironic.
Yep, it would take a better person than me to not enjoy them getting a taste of their own medicine.
Firstly, information is from the CIA. What is their role again?
Are you seriously suggesting that the CIA are leftie Democrat stooges?
"I think ..." <- that's his opinion. I think he is wrong. My opinion.
Well given Trump's reluctance to make public statements (outside of Twitter) or talk to the press then the opinion of one of Trump's top men is the best we have.
Notably despite the widespread reporting of this Trump didn't fire the guy or jump up and down on Twitter saying he [i]doesn't[/i] think the Russians were involved.
nobody knows apart from speculation
By "speculation" you mean the consensus of three US intelligence agencies?
ernie_lynch - Member
... Half the American people willingly voted for a man ...
Who cares about President-Elect Trump personal life so long as he can help the people earn a living. The previous admin just punished them so they got to go. Simple.
Whether these latest allegations against Trump are actually true or not is less relevant imo than why they have now come into the public domain.In my personal opinion the primary motive is to damage Trump and sabotage any improved US-Russian relations, both issues are very high on some people's agendas.
Whatever the truth I wouldn't attach too much importance to what seems to be a bit of inconsequential mud-slinging.
You are good ... 😛
1stly, who are their political master(s). 2ndly, they are experts in information manipulation. Decide however you wish.GrahamS - Member
Are you seriously suggesting that the CIA are leftie Democrat stooges?
All the news media etc were all in consensus that Mrs Clinton was the sure candidate to win ... ya, they have consensus alright ... they are All wrong.By "speculation" you mean the consensus of three US intelligence agencies?
[i]Who cares about President-Elect Trump personal life[/i]
Anyone who wants to know what's motivating his actions whilst in office.
Aren't you jumping ahead? Who is in office now?wwaswas - Member
Who cares about President-Elect Trump personal life
Anyone who wants to know what's motivating his actions whilst in office.
the clock on his motivation doesn;t start when he's sworn in. It started 70 years ago when his Dad didn't love him.
Under those circumstances revelations that several years ago he paid prostitutes to urinate on a hotel bed formerly used by Obama is extremely unlikely to destroy him.
Depends if they thought the Russians were using it to control him I suppose.
If I'd paid a load of hookers to piss on me in a posh Russian Hotel Room that a US president had slept in I'd be telling anyone who'd listen...