The hoax thing was, err a hoax. He never said that. Much like the very fine people hoax.
My thoughts are with the virus during this difficult time.
I will quote that again. Brilliant.
Or he’ll die. I really hope that is the case.
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone, but Trump, Cummings, Johnson, Farage push me close. Real close.
Let's just say I struggle to envisage a world that isn't a better place if their ilk weren't around any more.
As for all the conspiracy stuff, this what these bastards do. They put out conflicting narratives about every subject, then this creates unease and uncertainty within populations to enable the three-word-sloganites an easy ride.
I heartily recommend 'Hypernormalisation' by Adam Curtis. Especially the bit about Vladislav Surkov. You can see the playbook being written.
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone
I don't. They deserve no sympathy. The only name I'd omit from your list is Cummings. He's an idealogue, and has been given an opportunity to implement his ideas. I disagree with his ideas but can admire how he's gone about executing them.
The rest of them on the contrary are only there out of their own inflated egos and naked ambition.
Everyone should watch Hypernormalisation.
There is a Trump quote or statement to back up any future narrative, often directly contradicting himself within days, if not hours.
He’s got this virus though, there really is no reason to think otherwise.
There will be a lot of people praying for him right now, is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
Start a "Save Trump" crowdfunder and divert them into giving you money?
TL;DR, but with his age and level of obesity, surely this presents a significant comorbidity challenge to the medical team? I do hope that the POTUS medical team are black, hispanic, Chinese etc and they just let him rot in his own filth.
If Mrs T does have it, it disproves my theory that she's a robot.... unless she's an advanced cyborg Stepford Wife?
From a prescient (apart from the geography) paper written for the CIA in 1993:
"In the years ahead, the United States will assuredly find itself in new
international crises involving nations or groups that have powerful leaders. In
some cases, these leaders may have a special, dangerous mindset that is the
result of a “hubris-nemesis complex.”
This complex involves a combination of hubris (a pretension toward an arrogant
form of godliness) and nemesis (a vengeful desire to confront, defeat, humiliate,
and punish an adversary, especially one that can be accused of hubris). The
combination has strange dynamics that may lead to destructive, high-risk
behaviour. Attempts to deter, compel, or negotiate with a leader who has a
hubris-nemesis complex can be ineffectual or even disastrously
counterproductive when those attempts are based on concepts better suited to
dealing with more normal leaders."
Old, overweight and poor - odds aren't great for him, he ticks all the boxes.
The hoax thing was, err a hoax. He never said that. Much like the very fine people hoax.
From the CNN story:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics/joe-biden-campaign-ad-trump-coronavirus-hoax-fact-check/index.html
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Here is what Trump said in full:
"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus -- you know that right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, "How's President Trump doing?" They go, "Oh, not good, not good." They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. They can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, "Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in." It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."
The next day Trump was asked about this comment and tried to clarify what he said, claiming he was "referring to the action that [the Democrats] take to try and pin this on somebody, because we've done such a good job. The hoax is on them."
That said, Trump's clarification has not stopped some of his supporters from believing the pandemic is, in fact, a hoax. One Trump supporter attending a campaign rally in Michigan on September 10 was asked by CNN's Jim Acosta why he was not wearing a mask. "Because there's no Covid," he said. "It's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of America."
I feel a bit for Biden. So much to attack about Trump in general but about him getting it after mocking other for taking steps to avoid it specifically. Does you hitting a home run against an 'ill' man make yo look bad? Probably does.
I so want him to get it and get it proper bad. Maybe survive now properly bolloxed and die in a year or so after a nice bit of suffering. Renal failure and a transplant, what's left of his cognitive abilities further mashed and a few good strokes. Then die.
But suspect he hasn't actually got it or he has and is asymptomatic and remains that way. Which will make him smugger than ever. Google tells me he is blood type O. This improves his chances of dodging a bullet considerably some of latest research shows. But please let me be wrong.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes....
There will be a lot of people praying for him right now, is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
I doubt it'll make a jot of difference. If there is a God, I find it hard to believe they* would help out Trump.
*I've decided I'm gonna use non-gendered pronouns for God from now on.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes….
Shut it on your way out
Iamp, would you rather we do show compassion to a homophobic, racist, sexist, bullying liar then 🙂
Is compassion somthing we should extend to everyone without considereing who they are and what they have done ?
I see STW is awash with compassion!
I think that, generally, it is. But the man we are talking about is hardly known for it...
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/782673397952094208
https://twitter.com/d1993_sam/status/1310990698607448064?s=20
My first thought was how vulnerable to covid Biden is too. You face a global pandemic that is viscious to the older and the infirm and you send out Biden.
It's Dads Army stuff.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes
Give me one reason, just one, why I should feel compassion for someone who has spent his whole life abusing, belittling and bullying people. Someone who is racist, sexist and a habitual liar. Someone who has never, ever, thought about a single human being other than himself. Someone who sets about to stoke hatred and division. Someone who encourages violence, encourages racism and someone who has never found compassion for any other human being.
He is a truly deplorable thing and fails every single measure of basic human decency.
I try to find compassion as I believe you shouldn’t lower yourself to anything close to his level. However, I simply fail to find any.
Lamp.
Sympathy for the Devil.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
As ye sow, so shall ye reap....
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone, but Trump, Cummings, Johnson, Farage push me close. Real close.
What people forget is that Trump, Cummings etc cause death and misery by policy, a slow mental and physical torture aimed at those unable to fight back until they die looking back on a life destroyed by the greed and power lust of the 1%ers. I make no bones at all at wishing them dead, it is far less than the actual policies they enact to make people suffer. They are no different to tyrants, it's just their weapons are usually financial power rather than guns and bombs.
Compassion
Remember Trump mocking Biden for mask wearing...
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1311299005138104321?s=20
I see STW is awash with compassion!
Yes we should show compassion for a rapist, mysoginist, racist, far right supporting, faux-strongman who's only real achievement in life was inheriting millions from his family? I'd do far worse to him than give him covid given the opportunity.
What @franksinatra said
There are certain individuals who are just so morally abhorrent that they command no sympathy whatsoever. Donald Trump is utterly devoid of a single shred of empathy, compassion, or human decency. He's a cruel, mean-spirited narcissist who would stand by and watch you bleed to death in a gutter, without a thought of helping you.
And given the utterly stone-hearted, nonchalant and uncaring manner in which he's addressed the 200,000+ COVID dead in America, and his casual disregard for simple preventative measures, there's a certain poetic justice to him now having it.
I'd never wish anyone dead, but some people deserve everything they get
karma's a bitch
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes….
Nah, Trump can go **** himself. And when he's finished, he can **** himself a little more.
If that makes me a bad person I am more than happy to live with that. The man is a nasty turd and deserves everything that could come his way.
Remember Trump mocking Biden for social distancing…
lamp
Free Member
I see STW is awash with compassion!This place is effin horrible sometimes….
The damage he has done for climate change is enough for me to think his time should be up.
the worrying development for me is the fact Melania picked it up.
I thought she kept as far away from Frump as possible
My dad always says that, sympathy comes between sh** and syphilis in the dictionary.
the worrying development for me is the fact Melania picked it up.
I pity the whitehouse security operative that gave it to her, he'll be on a flight to Guantanamo
Yes we should show compassion for a rapist, mysoginist, racist, far right supporting, faux-strongman who’s only real achievement in life was inheriting millions from his family?
We can do that, or we can behave as he does. I hope he recovers sufficiently to have his arse handed to him on 3 November.
Yup, recovery, followed by a defeat large enough to enable as peaceful as possible a handover… and then a full investigation into his money debt.
There is a difference between having no compassion, and actively wishing for prolonged suffering, strokes etc etc. The latter marks you out as a dick, plain and simple.
The damage he has done for climate change is enough for me to think his time should be up.
All by himself ? 😕 and in less than 4 years too.
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Is it totally wrong to have a bit of a thing for Melania and think she is quite hot?
Asking for a friend who also quite likes Kayleigh McEnany
There is a difference between having no compassion, and actively wishing for prolonged suffering, strokes etc etc. The latter marks you out as a dick, plain and simple.
Well, there's been plenty of the latter on this thread.
Pence is negative apparently. Both going down with Covid could leave a dangerous vacuum.
I'm just wondering what would happen if Trump was incapacitated and Pence had to lead the campaign? Could Pence be substituted in for the second debate against Biden? Not sure if that's possible or probable but if it were the case it would be a debate rather than a slanging match and I wouldn't fancy Biden's chances.
Outside of the televised debates, If Pence has to fill Trump's shoes in the campaign it could 're energise the more moderate Republicans. We all know Pence is crazy but not crazy, crazy. He will present a different problem for the Democrats.
dyna-ti
Free Member
The damage he has done for climate change is enough for me to think his time should be up.All by himself ? 😕 and in less than 4 years too.
Did I say that?
I hardly noticed the user, and not attacking you on it, just I think we're all responsible and the process of change has been going on for a lot longer than our lifetimes.
He's "ill" can't campaign and get his great ideas and policies across to the American people, who would vote him in in unprecedented numbers.
The election was stolen from him whilst on his sick bed. America needs the brave and the PROUD to stand up for democracy. nNow is not the time to stand back and stand by, now is the time to restore the rightful winner to the presidency.
Add me to the 'effin horrible' list please.
However I can't decide whether I'd prefer him to die or go to prison for the rest of his life. Obviously there's a risk that neither will happen but I can live in hope. An utterly deplorable human being on every level.
Then there's the 'dynasty' but they'd be left to fight their own battles and I expect they'd be pretty inert without the orange one.
wot ya reckon "Fake News", all lies told by the whitehouse Press Office.....LOL
Is it totally wrong to have a bit of a thing for Melania and think she is quite hot?
The 50 year old ex-model and businesswoman (and good immigrant), no I don't think so. I reckon I might just have the answer to why she married him as originally evidenced in this documentary
