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Funny that - it was the [b]same[/b] ACLU who backed the legal challenge against the constitutional basis Arpaio's profiling that backed the white supremacists constitutional right to march in Charlottesville

So, as pointed about above, relying on 'the constitution' shoots your own arguments in the foot, doesn't it?

tigmatising a large section of the population based on their colour, making minorities feel oppressed and possibly anti-police will impact community relations, cut down intelligence gathering capabilities and provide a potential ghetto breeding ground for terrorists,

So you're saying that banning Nazis, restricting their right to free speech and threatening them with violence only further radicalises them? Who knew?

And obvs no one mention climate change.

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could refer to this type of thing as 'Extreme Weather Events' from now on please

is it not changeable weather in the new world of common sense speaking?

i know it looks a lot like news speak but its probably because I just lack common sense

So, as pointed about above, relying on 'the constitution' shoots your own arguments in the foot, doesn't it?

What? Eh?

[b]You[/b] were the one arguing that "common sense" should take precedent over the constitution, not me/us.

Perhaps common sense no longer means having principles that you consistently stick to nor maintaining a position for more than about 6 hours or even having to be rational whilst saying things ?

ninfan doesn't post arguments. He posts specious twaddle that contradicts itself because he's on a wind-up.

I'm convinced he doesn't actually take up a position on anything because he believes it, he just does it because he likes to poke people with sharp rhetoric.

Makes him feel like he's on a higher plane of clever.

Bit of a twerp, really.

I agree with all of that except the bit where you think he uses sharp rhetoric 😉

Quite interesting though that you're tied up in that part of the argument, and ignoring the bit where Ninfan thought racist harassment was common sense.

Tripping over your argument in 3 posts or less isn't sharp rhetoric...
Maybe it's just all an ode to the orange one (between holidays)

@Northwind - already sorted the looks like a duck, quacks like a duck part of that one. Of course being a racist is common sense to some people

Waaah, waaah, waaah

In other news, even the guardian now admitting that #fakenews really is a thing https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/28/trump-tweets-hoax-louise-mensch-claude-taylor

Waaah, waaah, waaah

What about butter eh? Why don't you right-wingers like butter?

Ooh look a squirrel.

ninfan - Member
Waaah, waaah, waaah

In other news, even the guardian now admitting that #fakenews really is a thing https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/28/trump-tweets-hoax-louise-mensch-claude-taylor

bin dun- see post 2hrs ago

infact when the hatch story was posted on this very thread the poster questioned the source, seeing as mensch was a Tory MP, thats quite wise!

see here for the sceptical erception it received

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/donald-trump/page/269?replies=4911

if only Trump himself was capable of such critical thought!

So what will eventually bring Trump down? As time marches on abnormal becomes the new normal and the seriousness of his actions and statements is diluted. In any other administration Paris / Charlottesville / Russia / ObamaCare etc etc may actually be enough to bring it down. But with Trump these potentially devastating things just become yesterdays news as he barrels on to the next calamity.

So what will be the tipping point, what will it take to see him lose power, either before or at the point of the next election?

2018 Mid term elections or Robert Muller - the investigation is now wide enough that enough people will probably have perjured themselves by now.

I think he'll survibve the midterms, but reps may well lose support, enough that he'll still be impeachable following Muller though?

What has he actually managed to do though? Other than look like a great big orange clown? Has he actually managed to get any legislation through? It seems like the checks and balances of America's political and legal systems has worked pretty well.

It has allowed him to bluster away, but when it comes to actually enacting any of this stream-of-consciousness lunacy, he's had virtually no real effect at all

ninfan - Member

In other news, even the guardian now admitting that #fakenews really is a thing

Nobody has ever denied that fake news is really a thing. Never mind though.

But with Trump these potentially devastating things just become yesterdays news

Honestly I think he'll continue to ride it out.

He's lowered the bar so far on what is considered presidential behaviour that at this point he could literally be shown shooting a baby in the face on the lawn of the Whitehouse and he'd still get some support.

In other news the paucity of my argument is clear for all to see, even i cannot defend it, so let me drastically change course to debate something else entirely unrelated to the issue i have just been comprehensively pwned on

FTFY

This is all working in favour of whoever the next president is, they're going to look like a genius.

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If she did decide to run, can you imagine how racist the campaign would get, given the presently prevailing climate in the US, that seems to be getting worse by the day? 😯

Yes but the entertainment value would be enormous, which seems to be the priority in America.

This is all working in favour of whoever the next president is, they're going to look like a genius.

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I'm not sure that wearing radioactive earrings qualifies someone as a genius.

Donald Trump supporting bloke thinks Donald is getting away with it... And in tomorrow's news sun still rises. Less people support Trump and more see through him as he offends and alienates more people.

thinks Donald is getting away with it... And in tomorrow's news sun still rises

Given that you lot thought he would lose the election, and when the sun shines tomorrow he very much will still be president, I'm left wondering what your definition of 'not getting away with it' would be?

Sorry Mike, but it's just not happening. [url= https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/23/trump-supporter-interviews-phoenix-arizona-rally ]This makes for very uncomfortable reading[/url]

The more Trump carries on like this, the more he re-enforces the view among the people who voted for him that he's on their side. And the more the media attack him, the more it plays in to his hands, as he's then allowed to indulge his persecution complex, and play out his liberal elite/fake news narrative.

We may be looking on in horror, but it appears a lot differently in a trailer park in shitsville, Idaho

Given that you lot thought he would lose the election

As did you. As did jamba.

I recall that chewkw was the only one unhinged enough to think Trump could win it from the start.

We may be looking on in horror, but it appears a lot differently in a trailer park in shitsville, Idaho

indeed, amazing how many people in that interview look at trumps inability to get anything done and blame it all on those around him, rather than Trumps own incompetence, how long can that go on for?

But has he got any power ? As Binner said, he hasn't managed anything. Does it matter if he stays président ?

binners - Member
Sorry Mike, but it's just not happening. This makes for very uncomfortable reading

The more Trump carries on like this, the more he re-enforces the view among the people who voted for him that he's on their side. And the more the media attack him, the more it plays in to his hands, as he's then allowed to indulge his persecution complex, and play out his liberal elite/fake news narrative.

Binners

The more Trump carries on like this, the more he re-enforces the view among the people who voted for him that he's on their side. And the more the media attack him, the more it plays in to his hands, as he's then allowed to indulge his persecution complex, and play out his liberal elite/fake news narrative.

cchris2lou - Member
But has he got any power ? As Binner said, he hasn't managed anything. Does it matter if he stays président ?

It matters absolutely the world leaders see him as the ass clown he really is. Kim would not be pushing Chinas buttons if the USA had a leader of worth. Russia is sewing thing up nicely in the north and the middle east.
Meanwhile trumps looking into the sun and setting up a dynasty for the brand name.
The USA will be divided for a long time if it turns Into a black/white stuggle. The mans mentally ill I'm sure.

Is this what happens when everyone around you will not say no to a spoilt manchild.

Some things from the Knob Clanger's events list.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41037024 ]So,what did you do on your holidays?[/url]

Nothing about getting the golf handicap down? Poor show considering how much time he's spent on it.

Has he actually managed to get any legislation through? It seems like the checks and balances of America's political and legal systems has worked pretty well.

Of course they will but the US has a large number* of irrational folk who are incredibly right wing/libertarian/god fearing to the point they are irrational and beyond hope/rational discourse.

* i guess by the end of this his popularity rating will show us the true % figure as we see who supported him till the end.

Makes him feel like he's on a higher plane of clever.

comes a time when you start to look like a pussy if you keep blaming the "bullies" in Washington.

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[url= http://newsthump.com/2017/08/30/donald-trump-uses-houston-visit-to-promote-his-new-range-of-trump-golf-boats/ ]Typical Trump Self Interest again[/url]

I'm enjoying all the Trump supporters asking questions about what president Obama did during hurricane Katrina, apparently he was golfing or away or something. All ignoring the fact that he wasn't actually President at the time....and as a senator he actually went to see the victims anyway. Trump commenting on the good turnout at the fire station he visited was pretty crass though, seeing as it was a meeting with local residents about disaster response and not a rally. 'Hey you've all lost your home's but this will look good in the photos. Anyone want to buy one of my hats, available from my website?'

Anyone else watch the recent Horizon on psychopathy and find themselves thinking of Trump during the diagnosis checklist?

- Do you exhibit glib and superficial charm?

- Do you have a grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self?

- Do you have a constant need for stimulation?

- Are you a pathological liar?

- Are you cunning and manipulative?

- Do you have lack of remorse or guilt?

- Do you have shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)?

- Are you callous, and do you lack empathy?

- Do you have a parasitic lifestyle?

- Do you have poor behavioral controls?

- Are you sexually promiscuous?

- Did you display early behavior problems?

- Do you lack realistic long-term goals?

- Are you overly impulsive?

- Are you irresponsible?

- Do you fail to accept responsibility for own actions?

- Have you had many short-term marital relationships?

- Do you have a history of juvenile delinquency?

- Have you experienced a revocation of conditional release?

- Do you display criminal versatility?

Much like the checklist for [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue#Methods ]Methods of a demagogue[/url]?

- Scapegoating
- Fearmongering
- Lying
- Emotional oratory and personal charisma
- Accusing opponents of weakness and disloyalty
- Promising the impossible
- Violence and physical intimidation
- Personal insults and ridicule
- Vulgarity and outrageous behavior
- Folksy posturing
- Gross oversimplification
- Attacking the news media

I make that 12 out of 12. Not bad. 😕

Christ, I'm all of those things....