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@BillMC - that article is terrifying, it details everything that is wrong with the man, and highlights why he’s so dangerous and impossible to properly deal with effectively.
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F****** hell. Is someone trolling Trump in plain sight here with the popular gay anthem Macho Man, or did he approve it? This just gets more weird by the hour.
https://twitter.com/GabbyOrr_/status/1266811117344641030?s=20
@Billmc, thanks for posting that, a fascinating read.
This caught my eye though:
The trait that most distinguishes psychopaths is the utter absence of conscience — the capacity to lie, cheat, steal, and inflict pain to achieve their ends without a scintilla of guilt or shame
Sounds a bit like our 'leader'
Yep, sad thing is those personality disorders are found all over the place in politics, CEOs, and yet ordinary people have this belief that 'most people are very nice' and 'those clever people share my interests and must know what they're doing', and they get skewered for it.
dazh – cuomo now making point that George Flynn’s death and Covid are ‘….not disconnected’.
I saw someone make the point on twitter that it's basically Spanish Flu, the Great Depression and 1968 all rolled into one. What really seems to have cut through though is that peaceful and passive protest is ineffective, and that the police and authorities no longer hold the moral high ground, and all they have left is violence and force.
Gil Scott Heron songs keep popping into my head.
This situation is unreal. Trump is just despicable, is he really acting any better than dictators like Kim Jong-un these days? Worse?
How did it come to this?
Journalists are now being deliberately targeted while covering street protests, both by protesters and the police, in direct contravention of their 1st amendment rights:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/30/media/protests-journalists-arrested-assaulted/
Some of the police response appearing on social media is shocking. Respond to anger about police brutality with...police brutality? Journalist below lost an eye. Not sure how they can de-escalate this now.
https://twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1267088731753680898
https://twitter.com/jeffbercovici/status/1266942532665016320?s=20
Linda Tirado is a pretty amazing woman I think.
Now #angrytinkerbell has designated Antifa a terrorist organisation, despite not having the power to do so, and the fact that that designation can only be applied to a foreign organisation, not a domestic loose coalition of protestors.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/with-nation-afire-trump-deflects-by-designating-antifa-terrorist-organization-1008101/
...and very few people involved in the protests and riots will be members of Antifa (the actual organisation, not the wider lumping-in-of-protests, which isn't an organisation at all)
daz, you worry about your mates living in the US; one of my sons lives there with american wife and two year old. I wish they didn’t.
I said to Mrs BP the other day (after many years on/off working in the states) that I was glad we never made the jump and moved there permanently. Whats happening seems like a logical conclusion to a man incapable of running a country riven with institutional racism, coming up against the defining social crisis for a generation. The biggest issue is that he's determined to 'run' the country even though he's obviously not capable. Wouldn't be so bad if he did nothing.
A president and country who tries to ban an anti fascism organization, while allowing clearly racist groups like the kkk to exist, can't be a fit country for "intelligence" sharing. Peaceful British protesters who don't fall into the American white supremacy leaderships ideal, are in danger of being labelled terrorists by the US. Maybe time for pointing this out to our MP's.
…and very few people involved in the protests and riots will be members of Antifa (the actual organisation, not the wider lumping-in-of-protests, which isn’t an organisation at all)
He just does this to support his bullshit "there are bad guys on both sides" narrative. It's quite a smart move (if you want to create a dictatorship) - so it obviously wasn't his.
As above, very glad I'm not in the US right now although I can see the UK following a similar path, sadly.
So, let me get this straight, he declared anti-fascist forces the enemy, and now he’s turned off the lights in the White House and retreated into an underground bunker. Downfall anyone?
Downfall anyone?
At the end trump shoots himself in the head, missing his brain by several feet.
To rewind slightly, in his anti-China anti-WHO speech he said that CV-19 was responsible for 1,000,000 deaths worldwide and no-one seems to have pulled him up for it.
World deaths is about 330,000. So the US has about a third of all deaths in the world, rather than the 10% he was hoping to make his followers hold in their heads.
He's going full Assad.
I bet he's presently wondering if dropping barrel bombs from helicopters would be a step too far?
If you check any stat he quotes, it's inaccurate. Anything.
A favourite is he's the king of Covid testing, US have done more tests than every other country combined. It's not even close to being true. A technique I've noticed is he often adds 'someone told me'.
So he keeps mentioning the military. That's illegal isn't it? US military deployed against US citizens?
I bet he’s presently wondering if dropping barrel bombs from helicopters would be a step too far?
Insanely enough US police have actually dropped a bomb from a helicopter in 1985.
nothing new
US military deployed against US citizens?
There are exceptions allowed if specific laws are invoked but not sure of the finer details and bet he isnt either and is just mouthing off.
National Guard can be deployed a lot easier.
So he keeps mentioning the military. That’s illegal isn’t it? US military deployed against US citizens?
Its great marketing for the NRA though isn't it? This is exactly the scenario the Second Amendment predicts.
I think its called the Insurrection Act or was and Trump has to initiate it.
Trump gives live press conference from the Whitehouse rose garden as you can hear explosions from tear gas canisters in the background, I’m not sure I really want nor need to watch this as I feel kinda nauseous (to put it as politely as possible) but I feel compelled to see just how far down the tunnel he’s going to drag the presidency of the USA.
Ohh shit🥺
So upping the violence then, great leadership
This guys a psychopath.
actually tear gased a peaceful crowd, just so he could walk to a church in a show of power.
insurrention act invoked. army on the streets authorised.
Surely to hell if he orders the military onto the street country wide, individually they'll just tell him to piss off?
If not, this all has not so subtle fascist tones.
It sounds like he ordered the use of teargas on the protesters outside the Whitehouse who were taken a knee and raising their hands in the air so he could take a walk to the church across the street from the Whitehouse, I hope I’m wrong. Curfew now in place.
And I’ve just had a thought, the explosions in the video leading up to trump making an appearance sounded very loud, more so than what I’ve previously heard before, would they use larger/army type canisters? (If there is such a thing)
exactly what happened. just watched it.
Jesus Christ 😳, he really did didn’t he?
https://twitter.com/mlevinereports/status/1267588759794716677?s=21
exactly what happened. just watched it.
He just sent a clear message to his base
Out of nowhere he promised to defend the 2nd amendment , that's right firing up the gun nuts at the worst possible time
At least no one is talking about his horrendous mishandling of the vivid crisis
This guys a psychopath.
Well, yes, a point that’s been made over and over, and in great depth in the article BillMC posted up there ^^, but it’s worth posting again for anyone who might have missed it. It should be required reading for everyone who’s thought that #angrytinkerbell might be just exaggerating a bit...
https://gen.medium.com/the-psychopath-in-chief-aa10ab2165d9
So he keeps mentioning the military. That’s illegal isn’t it? US military deployed against US citizens?
The National Guard are military, they’re the Army and Airforce military reserve, so they get to play with the big boys toys, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that they could bring in helicopter gunships against civilians. They shot dead students protesting against the Vietnam War at Kent State University, which I alluded to further back.
The Ohio National Guard opened fire on unarmed students, murdering four and wounding nine. Don’t think for one second that Herr dTrump wouldn’t sanction the same thing happening again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
Not sure if anyone saw it earlier this evening, but even the BBC news team reporting in Washington were attacked by the riot police.
The Right Rev. Mariann Budde told the Washington Post: "I am outraged... [I] was not given even a courtesy call that they would be clearing with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop, holding a Bible... one that declares that God is love when everything [Trump] has said and done is to enflame violence.
"I don't want President Trump speaking for St John's."
In fairness, there is a long tradition of strong leaders using religious texts as a prop for their speeches.
https://twitter.com/paulclaus/status/1267647666562818049
Honestly though, just when you think he can't sink any lower, he just finds a new level.
Not going to read the 1000s of posts above to see if this has been mentioned, but I found this pretty interesting and it might explain the some of his behaviour. Not so much psychopath but on set of a form of dementia.
https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1263811708566503427
[edit] there's more on the rest of his feed
The forward leaning stance is more likely due to the heel lifts he wears to look taller. But, yes, he appears to have many other features of some form of dementia. As for the remainder of his personality disorders, he has clearly been a narcissistic psychopath for the majority of his life.
onset or on set? is he having us on?
Obviously church was closed and apparently around the other side the church staff were handing out water to the protestors, but Trump got his photo op and then scuttled back to his bunker to hide and issue threats.
Excellent article from a few days ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-cities-burned-trump-stayed-silent--other-than-tweeting-fuel-on-the-fire/2020/05/31/4fc8761a-a354-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html
https://twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1267708451704180736?s=20
Those pictures of him walking with all his entourage and security? He's now gone full Gaddafi! Give it another week and he'll be sporting a uniform and a load of medals that he's awarded himself
I was chatting to a neighbour of mine. His son is an accountant for a multi national company. He has dreamed of living in the US since he was a boy, he currently lives in Manchester and hates it. He just got a promotion to a Director level post based in New York. More than double his salary, private schooling for his kids, healthcare and paid house for 2 years. Everything he has ever dreamed of.
He turned it down.
So turns out he hasn't invoked the insurrection act yet... But language last night was heavy fascist... Is it Caesar, or is it Nero... to be determined. meanwhile, people shooting and running over police and shit last night.
Not so much psychopath but on set of a form of dementia.
to explain Trump’s behaviour now as the result of dementia you have to ignore how he’s behaved his whole life. He’s always been like this.
even if just look at the timeframe of his campaign and presidency the idea of dementia doesn’t hold water. It’s not a condition that takes its time. The life expectancy from diagnosis is 3-10 years. When would you say he started to display symptoms?
His crazy behaviour is escalating but but not for clinical reasons it’s just inevitable. The consequences of his actions themselves are mounting up - each mistake comes back to bite him but he’s still an idior He used to be an inept president, he’s now an inept president having to deal with the evergrowing challenges created by his compounded mistakes.
Trump is a psychopath. does he have other MH issues on top - I doubt dementia. I think its just the stress of not having himself surrounded by yes men and having his fake assertions challenged which he is not used to that is driving the more and more extreme behaviours
He must be delighted this has happened to distract all from the CV-19 mess. He can look tough for his retarded southern fanbase.
Odd that the protesters in the City Halls protesting about lockdown were 'good people' yet those protesting about a murder have to be tear gassed.
His show of force might put the lid back on the pressure cooker for a while, but it's still going to build up and blow. And soon.
I'm constantly amazed that none of his apparent personality and mental disorders, and the way the display in rage and anger have presented secondary physical issues and seen him in a box. Maybe he really is as fit and healthy as he instructed his doctor to attest.
https://twitter.com/jysexton/status/1267456621615218694?s=21
The most accurate summary of why trump has gained power in the USA from a Georgia professor, well worth a read (will only take a few mins)
It is sadly ironic, that the gun nuts voted in the president that perhaps proves the wisdom of the citizenship needing to be armed to overthrow a dictatorial government.
He turned it down
That’s a shame NY would be an amazing place to live and work for a few years. No more dangerous than Manchester IMO
Trump is about 6ft3 isn’t he, don’t think he needs lifts.
But he tells his tailor he's 7ft 9, which is why his suits fit him so badly.
Been reading various comments from the US - quite amazing to watch many self-described "libertarians", who regularly bang on about defending the constitution and have large gun collections to "prevent state oppression", openly welcoming that same state oppression.
This was one comment I saw on Reddit:
Not a boog but have a ton of firearms - the challenge is that the same people marching ( enlightened liberals in Mass) want to take away my guns. I will never, ever support anyone who wants to ban scary black guns or standard magazines.
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Been watching his broadcast threat, his entire body language, his head going from side to side, his stance, was exactly that of the schoolyard bully, going nya, nya, nya, I’m bigger and tougher than you are in a sing-song fashion. He’s still the five year old who threw rocks at the toddler next door, which I’ve posted up before.
There has been so much posted on here about his character which clearly shows the man is a psychopath and a narcissist with zero empathy. It’s a fact, not open to any doubt at all, as many links posted show, I’ve posted quite a few myself, and there is also no doubt that he’s dragging his country into a place where the end results can only be guessed at. The riots in LA and other cities in 1992 will be nothing compared to what will happen now, there will be a full-on civil war with all the various armed militias seeing this as the excuse they’ve been looking for to assert their God-given right to kill all the people they see as denying them their ‘rights’.
I really don’t think I’m overstating just how terrifying things are over there now.
May you live in interesting times, as a wise man once said, as a threat and a warning...
The riots in LA and other cities in 1992 will be nothing compared to what will happen now, there will be a full-on civil war with all the various armed militias seeing this as the excuse they’ve been looking for to assert their God-given right to kill all the people they see as denying them their ‘rights’. I really don’t think I’m overstating just how terrifying things are over there now.
I totally agree - fighting the protests in this way isn't going to calm the situation, it's just fanning the flames. If he continues like this, it is going to get much worse before it gets better. Still, I bet he's enjoying having a media distraction from the clusterf&*k that has been his response to COVID.
But he tells his tailor he’s 7ft 9, which is why his suits fit him so badly.
I've seldom seen anyone wear a suit as badly as he does. Most people, a suit manages to make them look presentable and professional. Him? He couldn't look much worse if he was wearing poundshop pyjamas.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is another one who looks like he was dropped in glue and thrown down the end-of-line suit sales aisle.
quite amazing to watch many self-described “libertarians”, who regularly bang on about defending the constitution and have large gun collections to “prevent state oppression”, openly welcoming that same state oppression.
Funny, isn't it, how they're happy to defend 'libertarian' values as long as the largest beneficiaries of those values are white, privileged males? As soon as uppity people of the wrong colour and sex start demanding the same values apply to them too then they immediately revert to knee-jerk authoritarianism?
'Libertarianism' has always been about preserving the status quo of huge inequality in favour of the elite. You'll never hear anyone on a council estate banging on about the positive advantages of libertarianism. Not unless they're really, really stupid!
GrahamS, they're not libertarians though, they are scared belittled men who are overcompensating as they realise that their place in society is fast becoming irrelevant so they grab onto a semblance of power and masculinity - Guns.
If you have 5 mins then read the tweet that i posted above, after reading it i now understand why M.A.G.A has such a following from frightened ****tards with guns
I’ve seldom seen anyone wear a suit as badly as he does.
It must be a right-wing populist thing
blockquote>His show of force might put the lid back on the pressure cooker for a while, but it’s still going to build up and blow. And soon.
The issue there is that every time he puts the lid back on the pressure goes up a bit further until it eventually rupture irreparably and you have nothing to put the lid back on to. He's just storing up problems for himself in the future, like he always does, or if he can kick the can for long enough his replacement will have a substantial amount of crap to undo for him. Either way he's a serious danger to the world.
How do we go about getting him classed in the same bracket as Saddam Hussain or Gadaffi, one of the other superpowers can then take him out.
At least he waited for the cloud of mace to clear...
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1267676026391404544?s=20
^ read the tweet i posted above from jared sexton for a direct correlation to facist dictators
Boris’s carriage driver looks familiar.
GrahamS, they’re not libertarians though
Absolutely, I should have emphasised the "self-described"
I read the article in that tweet. A little emotive and name-calling for my liking, but sadly there is a ring of truth to it.
his head going from side to side
That's just him looking at the teleprompt screens.
But I agree with your point that he showed bully tendencies. Bigly.
I've observed the Tories at conference twice now in Manchester. The de rigueur whistle is a blue 'tailored' bum-freezer with pointy shoes, maybe some yuppie braces stretched around a gelatinous paunch. I could swear Mr Byrite had closed down. I watched one delegate in a hotel make an obscene pile of cooked breakfast. He devoured it, then did it again. The staff at the Midland complain bitterly about that lot.
Americans just don't seem to be able to do trousers at all, not just the Orange One, same with Obama. A modern day mystery.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267808120136511489?s=20
What sort of bellend needs to thank himself in the third person. There is so much wrong with that tweet. No problems? Then why was force required and why were there many arrests.
None of this is surprising though. Every single time some bad news has come out regarding Trump he has changed the dialogue but offering up worse news. This is just a huge Covid distraction for him. He did the same on Russia, sex allegations, WHO, Paris agreement, mass shooting and repeat and repeat and repeat.
He’s now gone full Gaddafi!
I hope so. That way it ends with him beaten to death in a drain and that would be the best outcome for everyone.
Houston police chief tells Trump to keep his mouth shut.
Can I add it was not face to face but in an interview. Just so I don't get accused of clickbait.
You would be forgiven for thinking he is deliberately trying to provoke serious, lethal and organised violence between sections of US society.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267885805139345415
Melania not looking happy. Probably hoping not to be swinging from a lamppost sometime soon
I still reckon she divorce his orange arse once he's out of power.
And just remember, you'll get a bigly fine if you forget to take your video back to the shop