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I think the public call for China to investigate is ploy to say nothing is hidden and he is being upfront and 'honest'...
Smoke and mirrors.
There has to be a tipping point beyond which Trump will lose the support of a few GOP Senators
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1180211064648142851
When the polls start showing that his support has dropped , when it reaches 30% the Two senator s will start abandoning him, it needs 20 to flip to impeach him
That said his base are resilient, trump revels in it, the more he rolls himself in shit the less he seems to care
Impeachment requires a simple majority in Congress, which the Democrats already have. After that, there has to be a two-thirds majority in the Senate to remove him, which is where GOP flippers come into play.
He's past the point of no return now. Demonstrably mentally unstable. Terrifying to think he could launch nuclear weapons
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181232249821388801?s=19
25th Amendment time...unbelievable
'my great and unmatched wisdom'...totally unhinged.
Couldn't he just chuck Pompeo, or someone else under the bus as a distraction, rather than the Kurdish people?
I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!)
Who's economy is he imagining he has 'totally obliterated' previously?
maccruiskeen
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Who’s economy is he imagining he has ‘totally obliterated’ previously?
His own casinos?
Certainly many contractors he employed to build things, before bankrupting himself to avoid paying them.
So what he's basically threatening to do is... move to Turkey?
Hopefully the orange one is just trying to deflect attention from his tax returns again?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49963910
‘my great and unmatched wisdom’
He’s gone full on Oz.
He’s gone full on Oz.
I was re-reading William Burrough's essay 'Sects and Death' recently about the mechanisms for creating a cult
"If you want to start a cult, the first step is to get your voice into the non-dominant brain hemisphere of your soon-to-be devoted followers. The Scientology course involves listening to hours of L.Ron Hubbard's voice on tape. The voice of Dederich, founder of Synanon, was said to drift from the air conditioning system, and Reverend Jim Jones had tapes of his voice continually broadcast over loudspeakers at Jonestown."
It sort of seems that Trump's twitter feed is the same
It's proper butterfly net time. Sadly if he appeared on TV with his undies on his head his supporters would probably still vote for him. Scary days.
He's either just having a laugh, seeing how much ridiculous language he can get away with (knowing he can pretty much get away with anything), or he really is deranged. It's like he's trying to sound like a crack-pot dictator
His impeachment gets closer.The distraction gets louder. He could actually be smarter than we think. But he's not though, but he's still in power.
so now he's just refusing to co-operate, not sure that's going to end well, and certainly not a good look.
And now Turkey launches air strikes against Syria.
Trump you tosser.
Not, Syria, but they are targeting Kurds in Syria, who have been our allies for the last 10 years+.
There is FA the rest of the world can do about it, apart from moan, as Trump gave them the go-ahead.
He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3.
Luckily, I think most of the rest of the World are not up for it, so will keep their mouths shut until Trump has gone.
He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3
I'm not sure even he is that mental, I'll give him the benefit of that doubt, but he's sure stupid enough to do it by accident.
the trouble with the US (regarding warfare) is the sheer size of their armed forces, Trump has increased spending by as much as the total Russian defense budget. There comes a point when you have to justify that spending which usually means going to war with somebody.
The bloke behind desperately trying not to shake his head and roll his eyes. 🙂
Take the orange prick outside now and ****ing beat the absolute shit out of him till he’s a lump of meat,
Us special forces give their opinion on the kurds
He also had a really wise thing to say about the US diplomat's wife accused of knocking a lad off his motorbike: "She was on the wrong side of the road.. that can happen. We have our system they have their system.." Unbelievable.
He is a terrible leader, who , given a chance , would gladly start WW3.
I am no Trump fan but I don't think you can accuse him of being a warmonger. He has backed down from conflict with Iran, submitted to talks with North Korea, pulled troops from Afghanistan and now deserted the Kurds. Not the actions of someone that wants to start WWIII.
'Defense' spending up, as I'm sure it is a vote winner in the USofA.
Trump Tweet "United States has already taken the 2 ISIS militants tied to beheadings in Syria, known as the Beetles"
Trump justifies abandoning the Kurds: "They didn't help us with the Second World War. They didn't help us with Normandy"
He's doing the David Lammay 'I'm just reporting what people are saying...' thing. He precedes that statement about Kurdish hill tribes neglecting to help launch a seaborne invasion into occupied France from England with 'Somebody wrote.....'
He forgets to say who wrote it or where of course.
If he was passing this off as his own opinion he'd use the phase "Not a lot of people that...." which is Trump's code for "I've only just learned that... <insert revelation that Uranium is used to make nuclear bombs or similar statement of the blindingly obvious>"
now deserted the Kurds. Not the actions of someone that wants to start WWIII.
which has just reignited the same conflict
he also seems to be doing Putin favour after favour after favour....
Putin has to get his quid pro quo somehow!
transcripts from yesterdays Minnesota rally are pretty appalling 🙁
His stupidity and crassness continues to amaze me (ref: attempted ambush meeting at the Whitehouse), you just know he's surrounded by people too afraid to challenge him on ideas he gets and he's too dumb to realise how dumb his ideas are.
Partially prompted by this thread, I've been looking to further my understanding. If you've time, I highly recommend looking into historian Timothy Snyder and his take on the current political situation. Outside of his books there's lots of in-depth lectures online. This one isn't a bad place to start, giving some of the ground work before addressing the current effects within the US and UK:
That's very disturbing.
Also, (I'm no hand writing analyst) does anyone find his signature unsettling? It looks like the read out from a seismologists print out.
There's no flow or style, it's just jagged up and down scribbling.
Like it's uncontrolled anger.
I don't even understand how that can say Trump at the end?
How many Russian fighter planes have you shot down recently Donald?
That's got to be the signature of a madman.
Maybe he is launching a clothing brand.
Is that letter real?
“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."
What?
Is that letter real?
Many US journalists are reporting that copies were being handed out at a press conference by the man himself, in order to demonstrate that he had be tough with Pres. Erdogan
Trump signature samples from 2011
It looks like the read out from a seismologists print out.
Indeed.
The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.
Are you not entertained?
Yeah, before seeing that signature I thought he was a wonderful fella and should be running one of the most powerful countries in the world.
Yeah, before seeing that signature I thought he was a wonderful fella and should be running one of the most powerful countries in the world.
Getting less powerful every day he's in office.
I'm sure there are 3 m's in that signature.
Donald Trummmp.
If he gets impeached and removed from office, for his sake, (nevermind the global impact it would have) it would be better if it happened sooner rather than later. Something spectacularly awful will happen to him in post what will either kill him stone dead or see him committed for the rest of his life. The madness of it all just doesn't appear sustainable.
Looks like the Orange's letter got a excellent response from Erdogan .
Saved in the to do list
Looks like the Orange’s letter got a excellent response from Erdogan .
Turkey stands alone now as the Russian, EU and America all do not support Turkey incursion. Me think Turkey is just trying to annex territory ...
So far today...
- Rick Perry, Trump’s energy secretary who has become a central figure in questions over whether the president sought to pressure Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden, is reportedly resigning.
- Mick Mulvaney, the president’s acting chief of staff, confirmed that there was a quid pro quo involved in the delay of military aid to Ukraine, contradicting the president’s repeated denials. But Mulvaney dubiously argued the quid pro quo was acceptable because Trump was seeking an investigation of the 2016 election, not a probe of Biden.
- Mulvaney announced the June G7 summit would be held at Trump’s resort in Doral, Florida, raising concerns that the president is trying to profit off his office.
- Mike Pence announced the US and Turkey had agreed to a five-day ceasefire in Syria, but Turkey quickly clarified that it was actually just a “pause” in operations. Experts also criticized the deal for being overly deferential to the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
- The US ambassador to the EU, Gordon Sondland, testified in the impeachment inquiry, privately telling House investigators that Trump delegated oversight of Ukraine policy to Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer.
The face of the Italian translator trying to comprehend what Agent Orange is whittering on about is priceless...
It sounds like the GOP is panicking
The facts seem pretty much established beyond reasonable doubt. All they've got left is trying to discredit the 'process'. Which is an embarrassing nonsense given that there were a shedload of GOP representatives legitimately in those meetings because they were members of the respective committees.
Pathetic grandstanding, so business as usual for the Republican Party of 2019.
martinhutch
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Which is an embarrassing nonsense given that there were a shedload of GOP representatives legitimately in those meetings because they were members of the respective committees.
Post-truth politics innit. Every rightwing news source is carrying it as "Republicans crash into democrat secret meeting".
Which is an embarrassing nonsense given that there were a shedload of GOP representatives legitimately in those meetings because they were members of the respective committees.
A dozen of the republicans storming their way in... already had a seat on the committee. So what they were actually doing by 'storming in' was turning up late. 🙂
I sneer laugh a little less at Trump's gang these days when I look at the shower of clowns we have running our circus.
It sounds like the GOP is panicking
No surprise to see Robbie Rotten from Lazytown is the Republican spokesman.
Trump pulls out the Edinburgh Defense. 😀 AKA I was only Kiddingly
what goes around comes around
https://twitter.com/adamlongoTV/status/1188623821877760005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1188623821877760005&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsport%2F2019%2Foct%2F27%2Fdonald-trump-booed-world-series-lock-him-up-chants-baseball
Well, the DC crowd is overwhelmingly Democrat but I think that people are beginning to realise that they've been duped.
Thing is, Trump is a useful idiot. While he makes a fool out of himself and grabs all of the attention, someone somewhere is working to slip something odious under the radar.
someone somewhere is working to slip something odious under the radar.
The key thing being packing the courts with hard right ideological judges. Select young(ish) people and you will have biased an arm of government for 30 years or more.
someone somewhere is working to slip something odious under the radar.
It's all in plain sight. He just handed the Middle East over to Erdogan, Putin, and Mohammed Bin Salman, as pre-arranged.
The thing is, the "America First" and " Make/keep America Great" rhetoric resonates with a lot of people. They will not see the formation of a Russia-centric power block in the middle east as a threat right now, only that the US troops are coming home as promised.
Never mind that this could increase instability in the region and, ultimately make the world a less nice place, 'we' are fine.
Trump is a very useful person for someone; whoever they are, they have played a blinder. It may even be that Trump thinks he is the one in charge.
Here we go.
To deny Trump is to deny God
Lunatics
I'd happily send the lot of them to meet their so called god sooner rather than later
No Thoughts or Prayers.
Probably his bone spurs flaring up again.
Glad he's sorted this one.
Latest from the impeachment - looks like the Donald is ****ed, unless he can pin it on rudy
Will Donald's demise lead to Dumbojo being less of a ****?
looks like the Donald is ****
Until the Republican Party Senators abandon him, he lives on. There must be a tipping point somewhere though.
He's obviously going to be prepared to chuck Rudy, Sondland, Pompeo, Pence, Melania etc under the bus to get away with it.
One suspects that Rudy may be a bit too dangerous (in terms of what he knows) to jettison at this point though.
Agreed some republicans must be getting twitchy now
Especially as he has flown in to help to governor elections that still let democrats win in red states
Republicans will put up with endless dirt from Trump, but only while he has voters onside
at some point a republican senator will crack and run - and a flood will follow him
Its an utter slam dunk of a case they are building
Fascinating stuff. Caught a lot of the testimony and subsequent questioning. Reps fixating on lack of actual quid pro quo (almost as if conspiracy isn't a crime) and more importantly that Snodland can't definitively pin an order to do this on Trump. Whether or not their fighting rearguard will be enough to influence the court of public opinion remains to be seen. For it's there that this will play out. The House of Reps will vote for impeachment, no question. Whether the Senate convict (or make him an offer he can't refuse, a la Nixon), is dependent on whether he is deemed to be an electoral liability. They all know he's guilty, its whether or not the great American public care that counts, and unfortunately the jury is very much out on that..
Trouble is, that doesn't actually matter. As long as they think they can just ignore it and win the next election, he could individually **** every republican member of the senate's mum, wife and daughter and they'd still defend him. And while the impeachment case seems to be pretty much rock solid, they've managed to convince enough people that it's about Joe Biden trying to stop from being caught doing fraud, and that if trump broke the rules it's only because the rules are wrong, that it's definitely still in play... TRuMP IS fITEINg CRRUPtION
Desperate times tbh. The current lot would have done the same for Nixon
Am I the only one wondering if the fixation with Prince Andrew is distracting attention from another friend of Epsteins impeachment problem?
Trump appears to be made of Teflon, nothing seems to stick.
there are apparently 8 Republican senators who are not standing for another term. that 8 who could easily vote against Trump
Its very noticeable how senior republicans are in hiding right now. Once they decide Trump has to go we will see a deluge of republicans coming out against Trump
Its already clear that Trump is becoming and electoral liability. Once its even more obvious then he will be toast ( I hope)
Only because he creates another shit storm so everyone forgets about the last shit storm, he's a crazy moron and people are buying it