"Well he reckons Trump only has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full term."
Pedantic point: No point in taking the bet unless there's profit so he must think it's 50/50 plus whatever profit margin he thinks makes it worth it. So he must think its better than 50/50.
😆 Wanna bet?aracer - Member
chewkw » If I said I am not confident (which means a sure win for you) would you dare to bet 1:1 with me? i.e. £300 with 50/50 chance to say President Trump last the full term easy.
OK, go on then, say you're not confident
The 50/50 is actually for the bet. There is no such thing as a sure bet. President Trump will complete his term easy. Wanna bet?GrahamS - Member
OK, go on then, say you're not confident
Well he reckons Trump only has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full term.Pretty damning when even Trump's true believers have so little faith
People have voted for him so they have faith in him, on the other hand people have no faith in Hilary Clinton or all his opponents.akira - Member
The only person who has true faith in trump is trump himself, and he's an idiot.
There is no sure thing in a bet but then I prefer those 1:1 bet to keep thing simple for fun.outofbreath - Member
Pedantic point: No point in taking the bet unless there's profit so he must think it's 50/50 plus whatever profit margin he thinks makes it worth it. So he must think its better than 50/50.
President Trump will complete his term easy. Wanna bet?
Nope. Already said I wouldn't bet on something like that in the current Bizzaro World political climate.
But BigButSlimmerBloke's point stands: if you think he'll complete it easily then why are the odds only 50/50?
What do you think the [i]actual[/i] odds are of Trump completing his term?
GrahamS - Member
President Trump will complete his term easy. Wanna bet?
Nope. Already said I wouldn't bet on something like that in the current Bizzaro World political climate.But BigButSlimmerBloke's point stands: if you think he'll complete it easily then why are the odds only 50/50?
What do you think the actual odds are of Trump completing his term?
There is not such thing as a sure bet. Otherwise it will not be called a bet. I ain't a bookie so no bookie bet here. Be fair. The bet is 1:1 for fun.
President Trump will complete his term but his opponents are keeping with their trouble making efforts for him from both sides coz he is not career politicians like them. He is up against back stabbers and brainwashed drones.
Odds on a full term?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/26/trump-russia-investigation-house-intelligence-devin-nunes
A lot to consider in there but really the big question is who is picking the Donald Trump looks like a sex doll pics
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[quote=chewkw ]President Trump will complete his term
You appear to reckon the odds of that are actually 50/50. Which is surprisingly perceptive as those are almost exactly the odds the bookies are giving.
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Wanna bet?OK, go on then, say you're not confident
I'm waiting for you to say you're not confident.
Approval ratings even lower now
beaten Obamas lowest ever and support is even falling among his core....
Meanwhile Trumps golfing trips have already cost the taxpayer more than Obama spent on vacations in a year 😯
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Draining the swamp to become the swamp
Draining the swamp
One of his wigs got stuck in the plug hole on day 1
Trying to nail the opponents of President Trump on STW is like trying to nail a jelly to the wall. Innit. 😆
That doesn't make any sense chewkw. Oh, what am I saying?
slowoldman - Member
That doesn't make any sense chewkw. Oh, what am I saying?
I think hes saying that pesky things like facts make it hard to argue for Trump
Trying to find trump's good qualities is like putting a turd through a strainer, you might catch some of the biggest lumps but what gets through still isn't pleasant. Are we just doing homemade analogies now as Trump has moved past defensible into king of the bawbags.
I realise I may be accused of feeding the troll, but I am genuinely curious about this, so here goes:
Chewy - what is your opinion of Trump at this stage? Do you still think he's a good guy, and good for the nation of America and the people who got him elected? Is he performing the same / better / worse than you expected? Is there anything he could have done differently? What do you think of his failure to achieve... pretty much anything?
We all know you can refute all the points that are presented to you (often in spite of what seems to be overwhelming evidence of failure), but what do you actually [i]think[/i] of the guy?
So, roughly speaking there are about a dozen countries which have a GDP lower than what Trump will spend pissing off to play golf during his presidency.
Trying to find trump's good qualities is like putting a turd through a strainer
^ this quote
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Well there goes the environment.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39415631 ]Trump signs order undoing Obama climate change policies[/url]
he really is moronic, r4 were reporting from florida a trump state on the problems of rising sea levels are causing there already turns out Mar-a-Lago trumps florida estate is due to lose 75% of it's area by 2050. [url= https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-16/trump-rejects-climate-change-but-mar-a-lago-could-be-lost-to-the-sea ]Bloomberg [/url] story on it. Those Chinese are brilliant hoaxers. There was a trumpette who thought it was the ground sinking not the the sea levels rising.
A Russian bank under Western economic sanctions over Russia's incursion into Ukraine has disclosed that its executives met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law and a top White House adviser, in December.
Oops.
First one to flip gets a comfy cell...
Chewy - what is your opinion of Trump at this stage? Do you still think he's a good guy, and good for the nation of America and the people who got him elected?
He sees the general population as "maggots".
He laughs at any suggestion that progress is preferable to revisionism.
He seems in love with the idea that things are best organised by the will of a "strong leader", no matter that the leader's intentions are completely irrational, ill-informed and likely to make things worse.
He seems incapable of understanding the simplest of arguments in favour of democratic decision-making even where there are so few dots that need joining up to do so.
chewkw is a fine example of the sort of person who likes simple answers to complicated questions and the level of intellectual skills that it takes to be a Fascist.
That is to say, none at all.
Not quite as far fetched as you may think
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sinking-atlantic-coastline-meets-rapidly-rising-seas/
No idea whether the articles an accurate assessment etc etc
Even in the UK we have changing land elevation, basically it's due to glacial rebound - once the weight of the glaciers from the last glaciation had gone, the land is bobbling back. This is uneven so while the East coast is "sinking", the west coast is rising. Places like Milnthorpe in South Cumbria used to be a port dating back to Roman times, there's still a quay there. These days it's miles back from the sea.
Chewy - what is your opinion of Trump at this stage? Do you still think he's a good guy, and good for the nation of America and the people who got him elected?
I suspect that this will be the conversational equivalent of bashing your head against a wall. He doesn't respond with a nuanced answer, you'll merely get his own polarised opinion without any supporting citations behind his thinking. Either he's absolutely the sort of person representative of a post-truth age when facts come second to reactionary thinking, or he exists only as a few lines of code in a Raspberry Pi, designed to keep the forums lively.
My money is on the latter.
Whining about the media on twitter again, I see. It's all so unfair and vicious!
Oops.
Is anyone taking bets on which of Trump's team or associates will turn out to be an actual agent working for the Russians, as opposed to just being very amenable to helping them out?
Well, in addition to Manafort, that is. 🙂
I'm sticking with incompetence, few deals nobody will ever find out.
Not quite as far fetched as you may think
True but trying to blame it on glacial rebound or [url= http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/sorry-daily-caller-sea-level-rise-is-real-and-miami-isnt-just-sinking-because-of-too-many-condos-8594225 ]too many condos[/url] (which if it is occurring in Miami would be measured in millimeters per decade) while ignoring the elephant in the room fingers in ears la la I'm not listening the Chinese are making it up.
chewkw is a fine example of the sort of person who likes simple answers to complicated questions and the level of intellectual skills that it takes to be a Fascist.
Sadly he's not alone in that mode of thinking (???) on this forum..
whitestone - MemberPlaces like Milnthorpe in South Cumbria used to be a port dating back to Roman times, there's still a quay there. These days it's miles back from the sea.
Eh, Milnthorpe was a river port- the quays were abandoned because of the construction of the railway
If only the victorians had had a leader who wasn't afraid to protect thriving industries it might still be a river port.
Fortunately for anerican coal miners they have Trump looking after their interests.
@Northwind - the point being that the river was navigable to that point. The Leven estuary is silting up such that now the river is no longer navigable. As kids we'd go to the lido at Grange, you could look over the back wall straight down into the sea. These days it's a field and basically non-tidal.
There's lots of old coastal features in the area that are now some distance from today's coast. The road along Holker Mosses runs partly along an old sea cliff for example.
Anyway: Trump and coal, the mines mostly shut because they were no longer economic not because of any environmental restrictions so removing the restrictions is unlikely to also reverse the economics. I wonder how happy the miners will be when they realise that Trump has let them down?
oldnpastit - MemberIf only the victorians had had a leader who wasn't afraid to protect thriving industries it might still be a river port.
Fortunately for anerican coal miners they have Trump looking after their interests.
Irony; Milnthorpe imported coal. It exported gunpowder and textiles, but those industries moved their transportation to the railway, and did very well from it.
What killed Milnthorpe as a port was technological progress, and yes, Trump would quite likely stand in the way of that. Oh, and the end of slavery, make your own punchline.
I reckon 50 - 50 is about right given the state hes in.
I'll not bet you 300 quid, but how about loser leaves the forum forever..
long time to wait for the outcome potentially however..
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39434413 ]those pesky mexicans refusing to pay.[/url]
"Most honest people I know are not under FBI investigation, let alone two,"
"If you’re under your 2nd FBI investigation in the same year then you do have a … corruption & an ethics problem.”
Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter
So wall blocked, Obamacare still in place, no Muslim ban and tax reform looking tricky, what a success 😉
I suspect that might be what he really wants.
Do nothing, blame the liberals, make millions while playing golf.
The Donald is still POTUS. I thought he was supposed to have been impeached by now ?
Wall will be paid for by Mexico in the form of a transaction tax on wire transfers from US to Mexico
Republicans voted down health care reforms as they thought Trump's proposals weren't radical enough.
jambalaya - Member
The Donald is still POTUS. I thought he was supposed to have been impeached by now ?
2 months is a little fast but he is providing lots of ammuntition
Wall will be paid for by Mexico in the form of a transaction tax on wire transfers from US to Mexico
thought that was last years ideas buble, last one was by tariffs so the US pays for it, first part is the US needs to fund the capital investment then try and claw back as much as they can, at which point I guess people will change payment methods or another court case will probably rule that illegal too.
Republicans voted down health care reforms as they thought Trump's proposals weren't radical enough.
Nobody voted on it. The freedom caucus demanded more and more, however everything he promised them alienated a normalish republican. They were walking away from delivering less healthcare for more money which is exactly what he didn`t promise. The bill was an absolute car crash which is because HC is complicated and rushing through something after having had 7 years to work out a proper policy was never going to work.
Any stand out successes still on the board?
Republicans voted down health care reforms as they thought Trump's proposals weren't radical enough.
The explanation I heard was that [i]some[/i] Republicans thought they weren't radical enough while other Republicans thought they were too radical (particularly for lower income Americans).
But it was still the Democrat's fault for some reason 😀
“When you look at the plan that’s taking shape now, using comprehensive tax reform as a means to tax imports from countries that we have a trade deficit from, like Mexico,” Spicer told the traveling press pool. “If you tax that $50 billion at 20 percent of imports – which is, by the way, a practice that 160 other countries do – right now our country’s policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in, which is ridiculous. By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That’s really going to provide the funding.”
i.e. taxing US consumers to pay for the wall, not a transaction tax.
lol what would Sean Spicer know
Crikey you lot really need to slow down a bit you know 😆
Coz not every movement President Trump makes is going to hammer your world you know. 😆
Superficial - Member
Chewy - what is your opinion of Trump at this stage? Do you still think he's a good guy, and good for the nation of America and the people who got him elected?
President Trump is a good guy but he just does not have the saintly image everyone wants to see. He is good for America in terms of economy and job creation etc.
He is performing as predicted and perhaps better considering all the hassles he gets from all this opponents. Not a single Presidents faced this sort of hassles in the past but then most of them were heading for the PC era. President Trump is the turning point hence so many find the concept difficult ... the change.Is he performing the same / better / worse than you expected?
Is there anything he could have done differently?
No, he should be himself by being himself. He knows what he is doing so he should do what he believes is right.
His past failures (the larger the better) are credits to USA. (Cryptic alert, cryptic alert ... see if you get that ...)What do you think of his failure to achieve... pretty much anything?
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I'm not sure I'll bother with that.....
except to say: it's a good illustration that some people will absolutely not back away from their support of him - after the last 3 months, some people still think he's a "good guy". Jesus wept.
except to say: it's a good illustration that some people will absolutely not back away from their support of him
Holes dug....
It's obviously a lot easier when you just rearrange (change) facts to suit like Jambyu's post up there.
and then for those that think Trump is a force for peace and reduced US military interventions
BEIRUT, Lebanon — [b]The United States launched more airstrikes in Yemen this month than during all of last year.[/b] In Syria, it has airlifted local forces to front-line positions and has been accused of killing civilians in airstrikes. In Iraq, American troops and aircraft are central in supporting an urban offensive in Mosul, where airstrikes killed scores of people on March 17.Two months after the inauguration of President Trump, indications are mounting that the United States military is deepening its involvement in a string of complex wars in the Middle East that lack clear endgames.
Rather than representing any formal new Trump doctrine on military action, however, American officials say that what is happening is a shift in military decision-making that began under President Barack Obama. On display are some of the first indications of how complicated military operations are continuing under a president who has vowed to make the military [b]“fight to win.”[/b]
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/world/middleeast/us-war-footprint-grows-in-middle-east.html
A continuation? An escelation? Certainly not a reduction.
President Trump is a good guy but he just does not have the saintly image everyone wants to see. He is good for America in terms of economy and job creation etc.
You really do live in a dream..
