[Closed] David Icke at Wembley last Saturday

Still no comment on the "not in a police station, non sex dungeon" ?

It's the only one of your links I clicked on, and it wasn't even backing up what you claimed.

My comment is clear for all to see...

given all the links provided, strange you should home in on that one.

Also strange how Fiona Woolf and Leon Brittan is headline news today and yet I 1st mentioned it over a month ago.

Hows Tubalcain these days anyhoo? 😉

fair enough, the people have spoken.

I am a freemason been one for years. I also live in a house with a clear triangle motif on the front.

You got me.

given all the links provided, strange you should home in on that one.

And yet somehow I did.

Care to explain how come it doesn't contain any information to verify the claim you made.

Despite the fact you provided it as evidence to back up your claim.

In fact it basically rubbishes the claim you made, and kind of makes it sound you made up all the stuff about their being a secret Sex Dungeon in a police station.

But that would be so out of character, so I presume it's just a clerical error. And you will provide all the irrefutable evidence you have shortly.

Hows Tubalcain these days anyhoo?

No doubt some sort of pathetic dig at me, but I really can't be bothered to look.

This year 2 downing street workers, Patrick Rock (David Camerons deputy director of Policy) and Hans Sebastian Crump (an IT worker within the Cabinet Office) were both charged with child abuse images.

now i'm no expert, but this cover up doesn't seem to be very good. surely if there was a cover up, this would have been covered up?

Also strange how Fiona Woolf and Leon Brittan is headline news today and yet I 1st mentioned it over a month ago.

Wow.

You truly are an investigative genius.

Either that or you saw the same letter appear on Facebook as I did on 22nd September and then passed it off as your own super duper sleuthing skills.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fiona_woolf_and_her_relationship

Can't decide which it might be.

i suspect jivehoneyjive is continuing the time-honoured tradition of changing the subject every time anyone tries to get a straight answer, whilst at the same time claiming to have answered the question.

Conspiracy theorists are often more like the politicians they deride than they would care to admit

why would I pursue this with such fervor if I wasn't certain of my claims.

Could it be you're trolling?

I am slightly intrigued by your claim that "child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite". Perhaps I'm none too bright or lack imagination, but I'm struggling to see who this abuse would be controlling and how.

Whatsmore, there was what appears to have been a sex dungeon in a Lambeth Police station:

The situation reported in the SLP: "a tiny area with a bedding, a manacle and a sleazy red light...the shocking find at the Yard's Lambeth Support Services Headquarters".

The situation described in your link: "In November 1997 the South London Press ran a story about a ‘sex chamber’ hidden in the basement of Lambeth Police Station with bedding, a red light, and a manacle."

The open ended tabloid question based on nothing from your link: "Was Lambeth Police Station being used by the paedophile ring to abuse children and produce child pornography?"

So, in true style, when jivehoneyjive has been credibly linked to cobblers talkers, and has talked cobblers, and has been associated with secret dossiers of cobblers passed between anonymous networks of cobblers talkers, the question remains: is jivehoneyjive a key node in the cobblers conspiracy? I think if you do your own research you will see that there are plenty of reasons why people would not want the truth to come out about this cobblers (and if you don't see it, you should open ur mind a bit. But hey - I can only ask the questions, you can call me crazy if you want - just carry on taking the red pill, everything will be fine...or will it?

Once again, focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle...

Good news is Fiona Woolf has stepped down and as a result the pressure on the government for transparency increases.

They will be under intensive scrutiny, which is a necessity.

So, moving on, being as this is about David Icke, what does everyone think about [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] mind control?

Ties in pretty well with Halloween too!!

jivehoneyjive - Member

Once again, focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle...

Ah, I'll remember that- next time I say something ridiculous and get pulled up for it, rather than responding to that I'll just say "you're focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle!"

Good news is Fiona Woolf has stepped down and as a result the pressure on the government for transparency increases.

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don't have a firm grip on the 'control structures' ?

If so you seem to have fallen for it honeyjive, which disappoints me greatly.

I haven't said anything ridiculous... this is a David Icke thread after all.

And the fact stands that there is several accounts of some very dodgy dealings involving Lambeth Carehomes (much like many others across the country) Politicians and the Police... it's really not that unreasonable to question just how valid the investigation or freedom of information response (which will be a result of said investigation) is.

Your denial doesn't stop bad people doing bad things.

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Where is the divide between detectives theories and conspiracy theories?

If anything, it reinforces my theories... why was she assigned in the 1st place?

Amusing but not informative

Its is amazingly poor to posy links that fail to support your own claims

FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me - possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae 😉

KOna - well played

Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] when I next visit this thread

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don't have a firm grip on the 'control structures' ?

If anything, it reinforces my theories... why was she assigned in the 1st place?

The perfect conspiracy theory response to an inconvenient fact- just expand the whole thing that little bit wider. Repeat as necessary.

Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread

Are you off ? Don't forget to watch out for the chemtrails and remember not drink any tap water - it's full of fluoride !

Haven't read the thread but his son played at the Big Bike Bash a couple of years back before flying off to play the O2. He should be playing next years BBB to*.

*No lizard allowed at the BBB

MK-ULTRA

FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me - possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae

I don't think he's annoyed with me.

In the mind of the little boy that cried wolf, he thinks he's beaten my argument by telling me I'm focusing on the wrong thing.

It's incredible how these conspiracy twonks constantly spew this crap out, and no matter which bit of it you pick apart and show as bullshit, they just tell you that's the "wrong bit"

And then skip off shouting some random crap about MK Dons or whatever.

Weird, weird, people 🙄

MK = Milton Keynes

Probably

I expect a fnord and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread

jivehoneyjive - well done. Reminds me of an old discussion elsewhere on tinternet about 5yrs ago where some people were saying how disgusting Savile was, and some people were defending him. The shame! JHJ's detractors should take note.

slowoldman - Member

I am slightly intrigued by your claim that "child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite". Perhaps I'm none too bright or lack imagination, but I'm struggling to see who this abuse would be controlling and how.

Re: MK-Ultra - it's a conspiracy [i]fact[/i].

The shame! JHJ's detractors should take note.

A quick google of MY Ultra shows one thing these days, how hard it is to keep things a secret.

You would have thought that in all the mundane crap that Wikileaks got from Bradly Manning and from all of the Edward Snowdon leaks there would be something to support all of these claims, unless they too are puppets of the lizard people.

6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.

I can understand how very clever makeup might help to hide scales and claws but something at least half your body length surely requires a little more ?

I'm calling bullshit.

^^^^ ignore him he is one of them

JHJ's detractors should take note

I have taken note that you use emotive arguments to reach non sequiturs and then get excited at your brilliance.

I am sure some people did defend Saville but this fact does not prove Ickes, frankly ****ing mental/ludicrous, claims.

You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke.

Are you being serious ?

Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a ****ing spaceship.

You conspiracy loons really do need to find some slightly more credible figure heads if you want anyone at all to take you seriously.

I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.

Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a **** spaceship.

Clearly you didn't see that documentary on BBC1 a couple of saturdays ago - the moon is a giant egg containing a dragon lizard. Which then lays another moon-egg when it hatches. Simple stuff for a supposedly intelligent man such as yourself.

Three points on Fiona Woolf:

1. Saying that she is "establishment" because she had dinner with her neighbours a few times is nonsense. I've had occasional dinners with many of my friends' friends but still wouldn't class them as my friends and the same goes for neighbours.

2. Trotting out photos of her in ceremonial robes in her entirely symolic role as Lord Mayor shows nothing - that office carries no powers and holds little if any influence over anything that matter

3. By all accounts nearly everyone who as worked with and for her holds her in extremely high regard. If a former president of the law society is to have their integrity called into question, and "victims" groups are to have the say over who is, or isn't qualified to lead the inquiry and / or smearing the person's integrity in the process, the most likely outcome is that no-one will lead it because of the risk to their own reputation.

I think you need to be a bit strange to think the lord mayor of London is not a member of the establishment- certainly meets them all fairly often if they are not part of it.The role seems pretty much establishment to me tbh

The Lord Mayor is elected each year at Michaelmas 'Common Hall', and takes office on the Friday before the second Saturday in November, at 'The Silent Ceremony'. On the day after taking office, the Lord Mayor's Show is held; the Lord Mayor, preceded by a procession, travels to the Royal Courts of Justice at the Strand in Westminster to swear allegiance to the Sovereign before the Justices of the High Court.

I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.

You say that like it is incoherent nonesense......

Lazarus sounds a rather reptilian-lizardy sort of name, I've got my eye on you fella.

You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke

6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.

I did not know owt about him before this thread, googled him and recognise him from my childhood as a tv presenter. I think based on the very little I know about him his rambling are the fruits of his imagination and wether he believes them or not I do not know.

I might buy one of his books and treat it as fiction and if I am entertained I might read another.

Eric von Daneken when asked if he believed any of the rubbish he wrote used to reply "I'm just off to my bank can I give you a lift in my Rolls" back in the day when a Rolls Royce was a status symbol.
David Ike I suspect is from the same mold.

why would I pursue this with such fervor if I wasn't certain of my claims.

Cool, you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though...

Weird, weird, people

Perhaps not as weird as blokes meeting in secret temples with Lambskin aprons.

Certainly not as weird as people who rape, torture and on occasion murder children, sometimes filming it for the pleasure of others...

Now, back to [b]MK-ULTRA[/b], any of you kids done your homework?

Homework? Whats that all about then. Must be time to [b]GO[/b] and do something else, this [b]RIDE[/b] seems to be going round in circles. Anyone know anything about [b]BIKES[/b]

you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though

You started off as amusing and now you are just tedious, not funny and repetitive.

Perhaps the long nights are getting to you, do you need a hug?

I rode my bike today, bloody good fun it was too, slipping, sliding, but somehow holding the line

Can't recall mentioning [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] in any other threads, pretty interesting how the CIA worked with Nazi scientists, some even say there is an occult aspect...

Next thing you know, mountain bike mags will be passing coded messages using the first letters of articles on the contents page...

Oh, we're way past that stage, trust me 😉

some even say there is

So, cynicism, but no discussion of the actual subject matter, why is that?

Are you scared of the unknown?

Why are you so keen to steer the conversation away from....

"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"

If I didn't know better, it almost seems like you have realised that you are talking shit, and are trying to move the conversation in another direction 🙄

Explain your quote above, as you have been asked to do numerous times, and then the conversation may move along.

I have done, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't change that.

You know me though, ever tolerant and kind, Mi5 was the simple answer.

The complicated one might be a bit much for your pretty little head.

Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:

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Now can you explain to me why people who are curious, intelligent and friendly are

Weird, weird, people

And why it is you haven't had the decency to respond to my side of the (friendly) argument:

Perhaps not as weird as blokes meeting in secret temples with Lambskin aprons.

Certainly not as weird as people who rape, torture and on occasion murder children, sometimes filming it for the pleasure of others...

Erm...
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blimey, you lot have some stamina !

sorry, on you go ...

why is that?

1. your theories are unhinged and poorly, if at all, supported by the "evidence" you present.
2. you dont debate you insult and hint.

So where did you get the bikes from?

can you explain to me why people who are curious, intelligent and friendly

you haven't had the decency to respond to my side

Is this the intelligent bit?

Oh Junky, you are a one, I've even offered you a hug...

Just relax, no one is asking you to engage your emotions, just a little bit of common sense.

I appreciate you are very good at arguing; probably far better than me, but so be it. Perhaps If I keep practising as much as you, I'll get there one day

In the meantime, you'll just have to accept, I stand for what I believe in, and more importantly, I'm right 😆

Here you go, a lovely cup of cocoa to calm you down

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(Oh, and whilst you're perfectly entitled to intervene, that bit you've quoted wasn't aimed at you, it was at my long time bit on the side, Missa Glover Lovva)

Why do you pretend people who disagree with you are angry ?

It doesn't make your bullshit stories appear any more believable.

I have done, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't change that.

You've not explained it in any way whatsoever.

How is child abuse central ?

What happens if it stops ? Governments crumble and religion stops ?

No ?

You know me though, ever tolerant and kind, Mi5 was the simple answer.

That's not any type of answer.

Hth.

The complicated one might be a bit much for your pretty little head.

I'd rather you spent your time answering the question than pathetic attempts at insults tbh.

Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:

No it isn't.

Wonder how much press coverage there will be of dolphin square in the coming weeks.

Did you know there are now at least 8 separate police operations underway into the Westminster paedophile ring and the surrounding networks?

Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:

No it isn't.

[i]It was at the time of much of the historic abuse[/i]... that is not to say abuse is not still continuing under the current regime.

Anyhow, nightypoos, sweet dreams; hopefully you'll dream of the weird people wearing tinfoil hats and not have nightmares about the ones torturing kids.

Which reminds me: [b]MK-ULTRA[/b]... any updates?

Except all your posts are mostly insinuation, vague links and supposition. For some of it that's being generous. You seem very keen to bring it all together into some mass global conspiracy that will explain it all. At times it almost as if you recite the same speech every time it comes up.

So basically what you're telling me is that you're all scared of

[b]MK-ULTRA[/b]

Cowards!!

No not really and putting it in bold in every post just means you really really really want someone to ask you about your new pet conspiracy.

I'd really rather you didn't ask me about it and looked into it for yourself, it's pretty shocking.

But just in case you forgot what it is that you should research it's:

[b]MK-ULTRA[/b]

I have found this

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Anyhow, nightypoos, sweet dreams; hopefully you'll dream of the weird people wearing tinfoil hats and not have nightmares about the ones torturing kids.

Does it have to be one or the other ?

Can I not dislike peadophiles [b]and[/b] think conspiracy loons are idiots ?

[img] https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMkVpm3k6bbPbrYpnsoPhrZqv7jl-oPT8x4AbN4CMxdVEmK7-M [/img]

That pic has got me lolling, I have to admit though I am often a bit intense and mostly serious within this subject matter, I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

😆

That said [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] is no laughing matter 😐

Oh, and don't worry, Psy is sound, he's in my posse, Gangnam Style...

we even managed to get Korean Airlines to pull out of Israel a while back.

I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

Welcome to Edinburgh. Feel free to use the defence.

I just googled mk ultra and am not suprised at all. It's pretty much standard Cold War thriller fodder.
Truth serums and the old phone call triggers matey to go and do what ever they where pre programmed to do.

Am I supposed to be shocked.

I looked into MKUltra (no hyphen or bold type and fewer capitals) a couple of years back (possibly when the last conspiracy theory barmpot was on about it on here, I don't remember). And to be fair, it's pretty shocking stuff.

However, as Chip says, it was a product of post-WWII cleanup (Operation Paperclip and a supporting cast of thousands) and "if they are, we better had as well" Cold War paranoia. It started in the early 50s and was closed down over 40 years ago.

So quite where you're going with this beyond "the CIA did some nasty shit half a century ago" I don't really know. I'd ask if I thought you were capable of giving a straight answer, but I expect you're going to tell me you know the truth that it's still going on because you've found a photograph somewhere of Ronald Regan in the same room as Jimmy Savile.

Mental health care is quite recent I think emphasising the word care.
It used to be a case of just locking them up.
People used to go on day trips to point and stare at the loony people like you would visit a zoo today.
In fact even people with serious physical disability were viewed as freaks up untill not that long ago.

So experimenting on the mentally ill, I think disgusting but the fact it went on does not shock me as in the surprised sense of the word.

Cold War was serious business with both sides worrying about whether the other was gaining the scientific or technological edge after divvying up the nazi scientists. And short of espionage they could only guess what the other was upto and how far they had got doing it.

Would just like to emphasis my use of the words loony people and them is in keeping with the attitude I describe and not my feelings,

Incase anyone misunderstands.

"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"

But not to worry, let's just change the subject.

Just to be clear - jivehoneyjive has[s]n't[/s] articulated what he means here. [s]It's not that[/s] he's articulated it and not everyone is convinced - it's that [s]he hasn't even articulated what he means in his own terms.[/s] konabunny and others can't be arsed to read; if you gave them enough bricks to build a house, they'd just throw them at each other, without the constructive approach needed to assemble them together

FTFY

The pyramid diagram does most of the explaining, a real world example of this is Mi5 filming MPs abusing kids for blackmail purposes.

[i]
In seemingly unrelated matters[/i]:

Why did the last pope resign?

No you have not at all.personally I would not even say you have tried to show it let alone have. You made a claim put up some links , none of them supported this view and then changed tack and pages later claimed you had "proved" it
If you have you should have your day in court or else you just dont care, tolerate paedos are complicit and all the other unpleasant stuff you say to anyone who may question your lack of evidence.

To be fair, I don't feel I have to go into too much depth on this particular thread, as many times over the months/years I've provided avenues for you to research at your leisure, rather than clogging the forum with too many links and too much information which would doubtless bore and confuse the uninitiated.

Your failure to comprehend is not my failure to provide information.

It's a lovely day out there, I'm off for now, don't spend too much time bickering on the internetz eh?

But if you are going to hang around, you could at least do the courtesy of answering my question:

Why did the last pope resign?

mikewsmith - Member 
Homework? Whats that all about then. Must be time to GO and do something else, this RIDE seems to be going round in circles. [b]Anyone know anything about BIKES[/b]

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I don't think you do Mike...do some of you even get out on your bikes? If I wasn't full of cold and bored I would be out myself rather than being a sheep and agreeing with the majority baaaaaah. 😆

You've not explained it in any way whatsoever.
How is child abuse central ?
What happens if it stops ? Governments crumble and religion stops ?
No ?

You've not explained anything.

Stop wasting time telling people they wouldn't understand
Stop insulting people who ask you to explain.

Just explain it.

Oh, and can you use words instead of pictures.

We are all waiting to hear why you seem to think .....

"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"

When you have explained that, then we can move on to whatever else you feel the need to carp on about.

I presume you are incapable of explaining it, mainly because you just blindly regurgitated it from some conspiracy website or other.

Because he was 87 which is very old. Age is particualy a problem when trying to lead an internecine feuding mob with dark secrets . His replacement hardly fits with a lizard paedo conspiracy does he ? Or was he on Jim Will Fix It too?
I must say when I Googled mkultra I was shocked and surprised that anyone thinks it is either big news or currently relevant I knew everything about it other than the code name . I can only assume jivehoney is quite young and discovering recent history for the first time and believing he us finding secrets.
If you want a real peodo conspiracy you should look to Shetland and Cleveland but that cuts in the wrong direction for the sheeple mockers.

You know, I'm in serious danger of closing this thread as it's going absolutely nowhere.

JHJ, you've mentioned MKUltra in pretty much every post for two pages, so it's clearly something you [b]really [/b]want to talk about. Finally, Chip and I both replied to you, at which point you completely ignore our replies and start asking vague questions about the pope instead. I don't doubt for a moment that if someone were to go "go on, tell us about the Pope" you'd post some picture of him in a room with Prince Charles and go "see, makes you think doesn't it!", assert that it's far too complicated to explain here but we should all look into it, and then start asking handwavy questions about moon landings or something. The whole thing is an effort in futility because as soon as anyone thinks "oh go on, lets discuss this" you change the subject.

You haven't "given anyone any bricks", you've had someone on the Internet tell you what a brick looks like once, and in your head you've now got a mental image of a three foot high pineapple. You then claim to have the architect's design for the house, but won't show anyone because it's obvious.

Continually asserting 'what about this then, eh? Do your research sheeple!' isn't providing evidence, it's making you sound like a supporting character on the X-Files. Either you're not actually listening to anything anyone says, or you're going to an exceptional amount of effort to troll a bunch of cyclists.

Either you're not actually listening to anything anyone says, or you're going to an exceptional amount of effort to troll a bunch of cyclists.

Are you taking bets?

Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:

No it isn't.

It was at the time of much of the historic abuse.

I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

The pyramid diagram does most of the explaining, a real world example of this is Mi5 filming MPs abusing kids for blackmail purposes.

I can only assume jivehoney is quite young

jivehoneyjive - Member

It's a lovely day out there

Where abouts are you ? I suspect more bullshit.

By the way, on the all-seeing eye thing: if you believe that it is a hiding-in-plain message that is designed to signify the constant and secret surveillance of the illuminati over the population, then it would indeed be incongruous if it was used by all sorts of supposedly innocent organisations.

However, if you are actually an organisation dedicated to the secret surveillance of the populace, like MI5 is, then the all-seeing eye would be an entirely appropriate and congruent logo - in fact, it would almost be a bit clichéd.

"However, if you are actually an organisation dedicated to the secret surveillance of the populace, like MI5 is, then the all-seeing eye would be an entirely appropriate and congruent logo - in fact, it would almost be a bit clichéd."
Badgetrackworld suggests that the all seeing eye and owls are running neck and neck in the security cliché badge stakes. It also suggests the triangle badge jivehoney posted ain't official . mi6 had a brain in a c. The conspiracy links to the badge also single out Mobil as obvious illuminati because they have an O in their company name. Orange bikes have some explaining to do.