[Closed] David Icke at Wembley last Saturday

When Icke came out with the idea that reptiles rule the world, many years ago, he was roundly ridiculed and labelled mad. But disbelief is turning to respect, as more of his theories have come true, and several have been found to originate in old text texts.

I somehow missed that transformation from ridiculous madman to respected theorist.

Is the claim that the Queen and David Cameron, for example, are reptiles now mainstream thinking then?

Call me a weirdo but I'll cling onto the old fashion theory that the Queen and David Cameron are merely humans like everyone else.

You have to admire Icke's determination. When he dropped out of professional football, he kept hold of the Wembley dream and last week he achieved it.

For over ten hours, Icke held the attention of close to 12,000 people

W T F !

He's actually an intelligent guy, it's just a shame his ideas are so wacky. If he was talking about corporate control of media, governments eveything!. The Builderbrg Group, the IMF etc he'd be great.

I guess nobody would go and see him then.

Icke does talk about all of those things, he just has an entirely different cosy reductive explanation for it all.

When he dropped out of professional football, he kept hold of the Wembley dream and last week he achieved it.

more of his theories

They are not theories. They are hypotheses.

A theory is something that is accepted as highly probable fact because it has been tested by gathering evidence to support the original hypothesis, or idea...

David Icke has not done any of this.

I've seen this documentary...
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that link is brilliant. He's completely hatstand. Makes kaesae and jivehoney sound sane and rational 😀

Icke just transfers information , seen him 2002 and 2003 a lot to cram into an 8 hour seminar...open mind is a must

I love him he's batshit crazy 😀

[i]Icke just transfers information[/i]

Just like Fox News does?

Yes , but without the bullshit 😆

It's all so clear now, if only I'd opened my mind earlier.

I see he's still banging away with the Matrix references.

Why hasn't he been sectioned yet?

the Queen and David Cameron are merely humans [b]like everyone else[/b].

CBA reading all that, did he mention Arran at all and when that tsunami/ earthquake/attack by Godzilla is due?

Why hasn't he been sectioned yet?

Do you think he is a danger to himself or others?

Icke just transfers information , seen him 2002 and 2003 a lot to cram into an 8 hour seminar...open mind is a must

Open mind = Leave reason at the door on the way in.

Do you think he is mentally ill?
Do you think he is a danger to himself or others?

I love the time honoured trope that a complete lack of any evidence is evidence that someone is trying to conceal said evidence.
If you open your mind far enough, your brain will fall out....

I do sometimes wonder though whether us ****s are at the top of the food chain...we can't be....we're idiots really! 🙂

.....Whether we're invisibly governed by lizards though is debatable. Some of the other subjects his covers does make you think though.

I do sometimes wonder though whether us ****s are at the top of the food chain...we can't be....we're idiots really!

What makes you think we are? In terms of world population there are quite a few species that outnumber us.

And some of them, like mosquitoes, feed on our flesh and kill hundreds of thousands of us every year.

and the Dolphins know about the Vogon hyperspace express route.

[i]there are quite a few species that outnumber us. [/i]

There is a theory that humans were domesticated by the grasses (grass, wheat, ooats etc) as they now cover so much of the Earth's surface.

unfortunately Jivehoney has a point when it comes to CSE

as more of his theories have come true,

so, which ones are true then?

has he still got a website full of pictures of the queen turning into a lizard?

Its the ones he claimed he said after they happened like the Tsunami.

unfortunately Jivehoney has a point when it comes to CSE

Thank you kind sir, don't doubt it.

Hot off the press we have:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/30/re-written-letter-child-abuse-inquiry

and digging a bit deeper than the MSM:

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/colin-tucker-lost-in-home-office-revisions/

Still just scratching the surface.

To be fair to David Icke, since the 90s he has been saying child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite.

Given that the Jersey cover up and the network surrounding it implicates multiple governments and the Monarchy, with links to several other countries as well, you have to wonder.

Sorry, forgot obligatory picture... this was taken the morning of the day that Fiona Woolf went before the Home Affairs Select Committee and said she wasn't part of the establishment:

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To be fair to David Icke, since the 90s he has been saying child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite.

I think what you've got there is the law of averages. If a nail bomb explodes, some of the bits are going to hit something.

I really need to work on my analogies.

Very shrew man david icke,he's realised there are lots of disillusioned and lost people out there who just want something else to believe,no matter how crazy,oh and he just happens to get an enormous bank account doing it,very clever indeed.

To be fair to David Icke, since the 90s he has been saying child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite.

I think what you've got there is the law of averages. If a nail bomb explodes, some of the bits are going to hit something.

I am not aware of a single case of proven child abuse in the UK which has involved [i]"the political and religious elite"[/i].

Let alone an example of child abuse which was [i]"central to the control structures"[/i].

He stayed with us once (my family home had all sorts of strange and wonderful people staying often) not long after he 'dropped out'. I remember my Dad recording a tape from a CD for him at the time and the stereo wouldn't work, he claimed electrical interference followed him around! Iirc the heads just needed a clean...

I think what you've got there is the law of averages. If a nail bomb explodes, some of the bits are going to hit something.

It's a good analogy, but flawed, as essentially, I know my onions and once you start peeling away at the layers, tears are guaranteed.

I am not aware of a single case of proven child abuse in the UK which has involved "the political and religious elite".

Let alone an example of child abuse which was "central to the control structures".

If you are ignorant in these matters in this day and age, it is through choice; I can't educate you if you don't want to be educated.

I can only suggest you do your research.

In mainstream terms, Cyril Smith (including Elm Guest House) and Bishop Peter Ball are as good a place to start as any, as is Kincora and the Mi5 link.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/northern-ireland/chris-moore-why-we-need-a-proper-investigation-into-kincora

Perhaps a better question to ask would be:

Are you aware of any proven cases of cover up of child abuse?

Soundbites of his are surprisingly frequent in contemporary "intelligent" rap music.

I would 99% attribute this occurance to "David Icke" on Netflix accidentally being found sitting on a Cannabis cloud.

When it is referenced, it's with such reverence as if he speaks "The real truth, maaaan."

I can only suggest you do your research.

In mainstream terms, Cyril Smith (including Elm Guest House) and Bishop Peter Ball are as good a place to start as any, as is Kincora and the Mi5 link.

You have persistently claimed that a high level pedophile ring has operated among what you now refer to as "the political and religious elite". Cyril Smith, a back bench MP from a small party who never in any government, cannot be described as having been part of "the political elite". I have no idea who Bishop Peter Ball was/is but he's clearly no Archbishop of Canterbury.

One MP and one clergyman does not provide evidence of a high level pedophile ring operating among "the political and religious elite".

Nor does it provide evidence for your bizarre claim that child abuse is, quote, [i]"central to the control structures"[/i] of the political and religious elite, whatever that means - it sounds very sinister but is also suitably vague enough not to actually mean anything, which I assume was your intention.

Blimey, the main evidence I'm presented with so far is vitriol.

So, not prepared to do your research, but quite prepared to belittle my contribution...

What am I to do?

Tell you what, I'll post this Leon Brittan video again, bearing in mind Cyril Smith, Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame) and Jimmy Savile among others were also linked to Elm Guest House:

Of course, having spent the time to read the links regarding Fiona Woolf, you will be aware she is a fairly close acquaintance of the Brittans. Studying the photo may also be beneficial.

Then supplement it with other developments regarding Leon Brittan, aside from the 114 missing files in the home office.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11194280/Labour-MP-is-condemned-for-linking-Leon-Brittan-to-child-abuse.html

http://www.****/news/article-2813472/Backing-MP-linked-Brittan-sex-claims-Commons-Colleague-defends-Jim-Hood-comments-saying-right-speak-out.html

And yes, I have taken the time to ensure all MPs mentioned in the article are aware of the video, as well as Nick Clegg, on numerous occasions, but strangely, no libel claims have surfaced...

Tell you what, as a bonus, here is the audio of the interview with the customs officer:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1z48WVsd1M8

NEXT!!

the main evidence I'm presented with so far is vitriol.

Well, we held hands once, but his skin was a bit clammy:

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So, not prepared to do your research, but quite prepared to belittle my contribution...

That's because your contribution is always the same.

Someone is always "linked" to someone else (but no proof of anything)

There is always a picture of someone with someone else (but no proof of anything)

Basically loads of insinuations (but no proof of anything)

Some people abuse kids, some of those people happen to be famous, loads of others aren't.

Blimey, the main evidence I'm presented with so far is vitriol.

What's that supposed to mean ?

You haven't provided any evidence to back up your claim of a high level pedophile ring among the political and religious elite.

So you've found a politician and a clergyman who might have been nonces, so what ? There will be nonces among teachers and doctors and policemen and butchers and bakers and candlestick makers. Which proves what ? I'll tell you what it proves - that just anyone can be a nonce.

.....Jimmy Savile among others were also linked to Elm Guest House:

I thought Jimmy Savile was a DJ, not part of the political and religious elite ?

And what's this suppose to mean ? :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

Is having an affair with Esther Rantzen illegal ? Does it prove that the person is a pedophile ? What exactly ?

And you still haven't explained what you mean by your bizarre claim that "child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite". What control structures ? What does that mean ?

Hang on, I think I know what your answer to that question is .......[i]"do your own research".[/i] That's right isn't it ?

Because jivehoneyjive you like to darkly suggest all sorts of sinister conspiracies and throw names about but not actually substantiate anything, because of course you can't. So your get-out clause is "do your own research".

That's because your contribution is always the same.

Your contribution is always the same; irresponsibly disregarding the blatant cover up of child abuse within government.

It appears on principle you are determined to disagree...

I've provided plenty of evidence, but somehow, it doesn't meet your requirements.

If you're too lazy to follow it up yourself, consider these points
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[b]There are several victims, careworkers, police officers and ex members of the intelligence services all of whom tell a similar story.

All of the inquiries conducted so far have left all parties above stating there has been a cover up.

Files go missing from the home office and the police 'lose' Jimmy Saviles diaries.

The Home Office (who have been complict in a cover up on Jersey), not to mention the aforementioned lost files, recruit 2 unsuitable chairs for the current inquiry, the latest of whom is closely linked to the Home Secretary who is not only linked to the lost files but by several accounts was in fact deeply involved in the abuse itself.[/i]
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One day I'll finish my multi fangled mind map linking it all together in it's vast horrific entirety in an easily understood format, but for now, you're just going to have to use your noggin and trust me; I don't enjoy all this unnecessary confrontation, but I do believe it is of sufficient gravity to endure unfounded hostility.

At the end of the day, I'm the one trying to protect kids... what are you trying to achieve?

One day I'll finish my multi fangled mind map linking it all together in it's vast horrific entirety in an easily understood format, but for now, you're just going to have to use your noggin.

Oh you're such a tease. You have all the information and the facts but won't reveal it all just yet. 🙄

At the end of the day, I'm the one trying to protect kids...

Yes of course you are. How about passing all this compelling evidence to the police ?

Wait, don't tell me......you can't because the police are part of the conspiracy ?

Your contribution is always the same; irresponsibly disregarding the blatant cover up of child abuse within government.

If it was so blatant, you would be able to provide actual evidence rather than the same old trot every time.

It appears on principle you are determined to disagree...

I do tent to disagree with bullshit yes.

It's a weakness of mine.

I've provided plenty of evidence, but somehow, it doesn't meet your requirements.

Correct.

Because it's not "evidence"

If you're too lazy to follow it up yourself..

Yes, obviously that's the issue here 🙄

I don't suppose it's crossed your mind that I might have "followed it up" and decided you are talking bollox ?