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Good news is Fiona Woolf has stepped down and as a result the pressure on the government for transparency increases.
Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.
Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don't have a firm grip on the 'control structures' ?
If so you seem to have fallen for it honeyjive, which disappoints me greatly.
I haven't said anything ridiculous... this is a David Icke thread after all.
And the fact stands that there is several accounts of some very dodgy dealings involving Lambeth Carehomes (much like many others across the country) Politicians and the Police... it's really not that unreasonable to question just how valid the investigation or freedom of information response (which will be a result of said investigation) is.
Your denial doesn't stop bad people doing bad things.
Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.
Where is the divide between detectives theories and conspiracy theories?
If anything, it reinforces my theories... why was she assigned in the 1st place?
Amusing but not informative
Its is amazingly poor to posy links that fail to support your own claims
FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me - possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae ๐
KOna - well played
Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] when I next visit this thread
Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don't have a firm grip on the 'control structures' ?
If anything, it reinforces my theories... why was she assigned in the 1st place?
The perfect conspiracy theory response to an inconvenient fact- just expand the whole thing that little bit wider. Repeat as necessary.
Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread
Are you off ? Don't forget to watch out for the chemtrails and remember not drink any tap water - it's full of fluoride !
Haven't read the thread but his son played at the Big Bike Bash a couple of years back before flying off to play the O2. He should be playing next years BBB to*.
*No lizard allowed at the BBB
MK-ULTRA
Is that some sort of household electrical conspiracy?
FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me - possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae
I don't think he's annoyed with me.
In the mind of the little boy that cried wolf, he thinks he's beaten my argument by telling me I'm focusing on the wrong thing.
It's incredible how these conspiracy twonks constantly spew this crap out, and no matter which bit of it you pick apart and show as bullshit, they just tell you that's the "wrong bit"
And then skip off shouting some random crap about MK Dons or whatever.
Weird, weird, people ๐
MK = Milton Keynes
Probably
I expect a fnord and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread
based on your track record so far, I expect it's you that'll be providing the links that contradict what you're saying.
jivehoneyjive - well done. Reminds me of an old discussion elsewhere on tinternet about 5yrs ago where some people were saying how disgusting Savile was, and some people were defending him. The shame! JHJ's detractors should take note.
You could *gasp* read [url= http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/matrix/matrix.htm ]Children of the Matrix[/url] by David Icke. Also http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news560_zk.htmlslowoldman - MemberI am slightly intrigued by your claim that "child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite". Perhaps I'm none too bright or lack imagination, but I'm struggling to see who this abuse would be controlling and how.
Re: MK-Ultra - it's a conspiracy [i]fact[/i].
The shame! JHJ's detractors should take note.
But we could all make allegations about a massive list of people and show photo's of them in the same room as somebody else. There would be a chance that we would get one right in the end, it doesn't mean that we are detectives or uncovering a grand conspiracy just that with enough guesses you can get it right.
A quick google of MY Ultra shows one thing these days, how hard it is to keep things a secret.
You would have thought that in all the mundane crap that Wikileaks got from Bradly Manning and from all of the Edward Snowdon leaks there would be something to support all of these claims, unless they too are puppets of the lizard people.
6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.
I can understand how very clever makeup might help to hide scales and claws but something at least half your body length surely requires a little more ?
I'm calling bullshit.
^^^^ ignore him he is one of them
JHJ's detractors should take note
I have taken note that you use emotive arguments to reach non sequiturs and then get excited at your brilliance.
I am sure some people did defend Saville but this fact does not prove Ickes, frankly ****ing mental/ludicrous, claims.
You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke.
Are you being serious ?
Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a ****ing spaceship.
You conspiracy loons really do need to find some slightly more credible figure heads if you want anyone at all to take you seriously.
I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.
Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a **** spaceship.
Clearly you didn't see that documentary on BBC1 a couple of saturdays ago - the moon is a giant egg containing a dragon lizard. Which then lays another moon-egg when it hatches. Simple stuff for a supposedly intelligent man such as yourself.
Three points on Fiona Woolf:
1. Saying that she is "establishment" because she had dinner with her neighbours a few times is nonsense. I've had occasional dinners with many of my friends' friends but still wouldn't class them as my friends and the same goes for neighbours.
2. Trotting out photos of her in ceremonial robes in her entirely symolic role as Lord Mayor shows nothing - that office carries no powers and holds little if any influence over anything that matter
3. By all accounts nearly everyone who as worked with and for her holds her in extremely high regard. If a former president of the law society is to have their integrity called into question, and "victims" groups are to have the say over who is, or isn't qualified to lead the inquiry and / or smearing the person's integrity in the process, the most likely outcome is that no-one will lead it because of the risk to their own reputation.
I think you need to be a bit strange to think the lord mayor of London is not a member of the establishment- certainly meets them all fairly often if they are not part of it.The role seems pretty much establishment to me tbh
The Lord Mayor is elected each year at Michaelmas 'Common Hall', and takes office on the Friday before the second Saturday in November, at 'The Silent Ceremony'. On the day after taking office, the Lord Mayor's Show is held; the Lord Mayor, preceded by a procession, travels to the Royal Courts of Justice at the Strand in Westminster to swear allegiance to the Sovereign before the Justices of the High Court.
Its not really the role for a radical outsider now is it?
Look at the list of previous ones for example...assuming you can be bothered reading back to the 14 th century.
I get your broad point but I find it hard to believe you can see the counter point.
I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.
You say that like it is incoherent nonesense......
You say that like it is incoherent nonesense......
Lazarus sounds a rather reptilian-lizardy sort of name, I've got my eye on you fella.
You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke
I think I'll pass thank you.
6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.
Well maybe they are better than the Japanese Kitsune. Shape shifting fox like creatures who sometimes give themselves away by showing their tails or teeth or claws. Of course the Japanese accept them as mythical. Clearly they have grown out of these sort of fairy tales.
I did not know owt about him before this thread, googled him and recognise him from my childhood as a tv presenter. I think based on the very little I know about him his rambling are the fruits of his imagination and wether he believes them or not I do not know.
I might buy one of his books and treat it as fiction and if I am entertained I might read another.
Eric von Daneken when asked if he believed any of the rubbish he wrote used to reply "I'm just off to my bank can I give you a lift in my Rolls" back in the day when a Rolls Royce was a status symbol.
David Ike I suspect is from the same mold.
why would I pursue this with such fervor if I wasn't certain of my claims.
Because you're clearly obsessed. And as soon as someone posts up a diagram of a pyramid with the word 'Illuminati' at the top I just want to run screaming from the room.
Tell you what, JHJ, try reading Charles Stross's 'Laundry' series of books, about a covert branch of the government which fights incursions by agents of the Elder Gods. Should supply plenty of material for your ongoing research.
Cool, you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though...
Weird, weird, people
Perhaps not as weird as blokes meeting in secret temples with Lambskin aprons.
Certainly not as weird as people who rape, torture and on occasion murder children, sometimes filming it for the pleasure of others...
Now, back to [b]MK-ULTRA[/b], any of you kids done your homework?
Homework? Whats that all about then. Must be time to [b]GO[/b] and do something else, this [b]RIDE[/b] seems to be going round in circles. Anyone know anything about [b]BIKES[/b]
you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though
Personally I would breathe a huge sigh of relief to know that I was not seen as sharing your reality
You started off as amusing and now you are just tedious, not funny and repetitive.
Perhaps the long nights are getting to you, do you need a hug?
I rode my bike today, bloody good fun it was too, slipping, sliding, but somehow holding the line
Can't recall mentioning [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] in any other threads, pretty interesting how the CIA worked with Nazi scientists, some even say there is an occult aspect...
Next thing you know, mountain bike mags will be passing coded messages using the first letters of articles on the contents page...
Oh, we're way past that stage, trust me ๐
some even say there is
Oh back to this again, some people say they saw the face of Jesus in an orange, or that they have imaginary friends who help them.
Some people do stuff, some people do other stuff, some people.....
So, cynicism, but no discussion of the actual subject matter, why is that?
Are you scared of the unknown?
Why are you so keen to steer the conversation away from....
"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"
If I didn't know better, it almost seems like you have realised that you are talking shit, and are trying to move the conversation in another direction ๐
Explain your quote above, as you have been asked to do numerous times, and then the conversation may move along.
I have done, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't change that.
You know me though, ever tolerant and kind, Mi5 was the simple answer.
The complicated one might be a bit much for your pretty little head.
Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:
Now can you explain to me why people who are curious, intelligent and friendly are
Weird, weird, people
And why it is you haven't had the decency to respond to my side of the (friendly) argument:
Perhaps not as weird as blokes meeting in secret temples with Lambskin aprons.Certainly not as weird as people who rape, torture and on occasion murder children, sometimes filming it for the pleasure of others...
blimey, you lot have some stamina !
sorry, on you go ...
why is that?
two reasons
1. your theories are unhinged and poorly, if at all, supported by the "evidence" you present.
2. you dont debate you insult and hint.
So where did you get the bikes from?
can you explain to me why people who are curious, intelligent and friendly
Can you explain why you think you come across as this
That is hilarious,if unintentional, comedy gold.
you haven't had the decency to respond to my side
If it helps I think you are a harmless loon who is not as bad as a murdering sex offender
Is this the intelligent bit?
Oh Junky, you are a one, I've even offered you a hug...
Just relax, no one is asking you to engage your emotions, just a little bit of common sense.
I appreciate you are very good at arguing; probably far better than me, but so be it. Perhaps If I keep practising as much as you, I'll get there one day
In the meantime, you'll just have to accept, I stand for what I believe in, and more importantly, I'm right ๐
Here you go, a lovely cup of cocoa to calm you down
(Oh, and whilst you're perfectly entitled to intervene, that bit you've quoted wasn't aimed at you, it was at my long time bit on the side, Missa Glover Lovva)
Why do you pretend people who disagree with you are angry ?
It doesn't make your bullshit stories appear any more believable.
I have done, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't change that.
You've not explained it in any way whatsoever.
How is child abuse central ?
What happens if it stops ? Governments crumble and religion stops ?
No ?
You know me though, ever tolerant and kind, Mi5 was the simple answer.
That's not any type of answer.
Hth.
The complicated one might be a bit much for your pretty little head.
I'd rather you spent your time answering the question than pathetic attempts at insults tbh.
Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:
No it isn't.
Wonder how much press coverage there will be of dolphin square in the coming weeks.
Did you know there are now at least 8 separate police operations underway into the Westminster paedophile ring and the surrounding networks?
Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:No it isn't.
[i]It was at the time of much of the historic abuse[/i]... that is not to say abuse is not still continuing under the current regime.
Anyhow, nightypoos, sweet dreams; hopefully you'll dream of the weird people wearing tinfoil hats and not have nightmares about the ones torturing kids.
Which reminds me: [b]MK-ULTRA[/b]... any updates?
Except all your posts are mostly insinuation, vague links and supposition. For some of it that's being generous. You seem very keen to bring it all together into some mass global conspiracy that will explain it all. At times it almost as if you recite the same speech every time it comes up.
So basically what you're telling me is that you're all scared of
[b]MK-ULTRA[/b]
Cowards!!


