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A lot of my family were 'Woodmen' in the Highlands, early 50's .
Most of the stories about folk getting badly injured involved a woodpile/stack.
Was my first thought too on seeing that. GET YOUR KIDS OFF THE ****ING WOODPILE!
Anyway, here it is with the correct music.
https://twitter.com/SoozUK/status/1833171840346300671
those who can do no wrong can release a video with zero comment or criticism
What's Angela Rayner done this time?!?!?
Away back in the '70's watching forest rallies first two safety rules were never stand on the outside of a corner or anywhere near a log pile
Walking through a forest using your ears the twin Weber induction could be heard for miles but a group 1 rs 2000 or Avenger made you dive over the ditch with 5 seconds to spare if you were lucky although not going too fast and a bit boring to say the least
Well I'm fifty years old and didn't know that climbing on log piles was dangerous, so maybe they didn't either.
Yeah, I didn't make it to the woodpile either. Surprised but not surprised that they have (presumably, as country people) never seen the signs - not sure I've seen a Forestry woodpile in years without one.
Well I’m fifty years old and didn’t know that climbing on log piles was dangerous, so maybe they didn’t either.
You can tell just by looking at them the high likelihood of collapse and consequences thereof. Without being told surely? Having to explain it seems akin to labelling coffee cups with 'caution - contents hot'.
Is it ok to let your bike climb on them?
That video was nauseating, is that what she really released as her big cancer free reveal?
I hope any other cancer sufferers on extended NHS waiting lists, struggling with benefits or continuing to work out of necessity despite being really ill, takes a lot of comfort from that soft focussed idealised view of a tax payer funded life of luxury.
You can tell just by looking at them the high likelihood of collapse and consequences thereof. Without being told surely?
Well, clearly not. You might be able to, bit other peoples brains are wired differently and may not be able to tell. If you are not asking yourself the question 'could this pile collapse' many wouldn't consider it. Why would they?
Having to explain it seems akin to labelling coffee cups with ‘caution – contents hot’.
That's quite a stretch. Coffee cups are universally known to contain hot liquids. Log piles are not universally known to collapse.
IHN - never seen the signs? "do not climb on the log piles" IME they are all over forestry operations
I just tried to watch the original video, its even worse with voice over. Its like a day time television charity ad. I was expecting her, at any time, to say "that for just £5 per month, you can support other struggling Royals...."
Nobody died, get over it.
Till someone does the same after they saw her do it.
Like a video I watched recently of a couple of folk with bikes standing in the bed of a 4x4 tearing up a forest track, which then nearly wipes out after the tail catches something. Everyone in the comments crying about Karens pointing out how ****ing stupid it was.
There was a horrific incident in our local forest where someone was killed by a collapsing logpile, absolutely tragic.
Sadly it took something 'local' for the danger to become real to me.
IHN – never seen the signs? “do not climb on the log piles” IME they are all over forestry operations
I have yes, but I'd assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
Well, clearly not. You might be able to, bit other peoples brains are wired differently and may not be able to tell. If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
Exactly. I'd look at it and think "see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability"
Till someone does the same after they saw her do it.
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The bits of that video I saw on the news were absolutely nauseating, no awareness of how long normal people have to wait in queues for consultation and treatment....
If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
Because to safely navigate this world, especially outdoors requires a modicum of common sense and low level risk assessment. I'm not saying there is no need for signs. I accept that common sense isn't that common. I just think (hope) that the percentage of people who NEED to be told coffee is hot or log piles are unstable is small. Perhaps I'm being a little naive?
That’s quite a stretch. Coffee cups are universally known to contain hot liquids.
So why does it need to be explained if it's "universally known"?
Log piles are not universally known to collapse.
And hot coffee is not universally known to burn you. In most instances it won't - the comparison is valid imo.
If that lot get taken out by a log pile collapse then Harry is next in line to the throne. Makes you think…
have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
But surely you tried stacking pencils?!
Now think bigger....
“see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability
And yet people still get killed by them, so it would seem that not everyone has the necessary education in civil engineering to correctly estimate the angle of repose of heavy logs.
If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
A responsible land owner would understand the risks associated with industry on his or hers land.
I believe they own a few acres...
These are not a bunch of townies popping out to the local copse for the day. They are at the top of a great big rural empire.
The video really was straight up creepy though.
Like a video I watched recently of a couple of folk with bikes standing in the bed of a 4×4 tearing up a forest track
Yeah, when I was about 12, a girl at my school died when she fell off the back of a truck and smashed her skull in. Couple of adults thought it would be fun to take a group of kids for a ride on the truck. When you're a kid (or idiot) you don't understand why grown-ups don't want you to do all the fun stuff.
Perhaps I’m being a little naive?
I'm afraid you are.
The coffee comparison is not valid because, in day to day life, everyone is likely to come into contact with a cup full of hot liquid that may still be hot enough to cause a burn. It is universally known and the presence of the label is often joked about. The warning is a genuine legal arse covering exercise.
Log piles on the other hand are not something that everyone is likely to come into contact in their day to day life. Therefore the risk is not universally known. They are also quite picturesque and often seen in pictures with bikes leaning against them or families posing. The risk of those big heavy things collapsing simply won't occur to some folks. Hence the signs.
Fair enough. I thought it would be obvious to most people who have survived to adulthood that a stack of heavy cylindrical objects is potentially unstable, even if they've never encountered one in that form. I accept I'm wrong in that assumption. I do wonder though, how such people navigate the world safely, without every hot, pointy, sharp, heavy or unstable object being labelled for them.
Thread title needs amending with "royals content" or "vomit bucket advised".
Pretty much every FC log pile has a "Danger Do Not Climb" sign on it.
Log piles in your 1000 acre "garden" may not.
Just one of many odd things about that video. Presumably Prince Andrew said "I've got this great idea to ease yourself back into public life".
I accept I’m wrong
You're not wrong. Your point was valid.
I've been the victim of a log pile collapse and it wasn't fun. Working in the industry so a job with inherent risks. I was cross cutting one of the logs on the ground in front of the stack. Stupidly had my back to the stack and was stood between log and stack when a workmate shouted the stack was moving. I stepped one foot over the log to get away but my trailing foot took the impact and was pinned between the log I had been cutting and one of the falling logs. I got out but resulted in a badly sprained ankle and six weeks off work. Could have been a lot worse though. That was about thirty years ago and I still have nagging pain in that ankle.
Also found that video creepy when I saw it on the news last night as a currently clear cancer patient.
The sort of person that would 1) watch a video with those nauseating royal kids in, 2) copy what they do and 3) ignore signs saying it's dangerous... would they be a loss to mankind?
I have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
That is by far the dumbest thing I've read on here in a long time and that's saying something.
The sort of person that would 1) watch a video with those nauseating royal kids in, 2) copy what they do and 3) ignore signs saying it’s dangerous… would they be a loss to mankind?
H&S has pretty much removed the positive aspect of Darwinian selection, and is probably responsible for a lot of societys current woes.
(Tongue in cheek emoji)
Some people are poor at assessing risks. There was a child killed at our local reservoir. There is an unfenced path running along a high embankment. Parents allowed child to cycle along this path. Lost control and went down embankment hitting the stone wall at the bottom.
Sometime after this death the council recommended it as a safe cycling route. Risk assessment having gone no further than no cars
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Tragic+fall+spot+%27safe+for+cycles%27.-a0231669961
Logs aren't for climbing on, they're for carrying.
On the log, GO!
They don’t, they own an expensive car
Sounds good, I'd like that kind of money. How can I become one of these terrible people?
Logs aren’t for climbing on, they’re for carrying.
On the log, GO!
FFS, flashback trauma! You owe me a counselling session!
Haha, wait until we start talking stretchers!
So I've worked in Forestry for 10 years or so.
In my region in that time there has been one child killed on a log pile.
Take that in the context very few people are misinformed enough to climb on them - and they are always well signed to keep off. So shit does happen.
I once dropped one log off a trailer, my feet slipped on the slimy concrete floor and the log fell all of a foot at most onto my leg.
I cried, a lot.
And it took about a month for the hematoma to go down and be able to walk further than the kitchen.
Tempting fate with a few hundred of the things is just stupidity.
Exactly. I’d look at it and think “see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability”
And when they find the one log that's finely balanced and rolls off, releasing the one next to it, and the next to it the 40kg bundle of Kath Kidston fabric and norovirus gets entwined with 400kg of moving logs pretty quickly.
I have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
These sorts of notices tend to be written in blood.
So I’ve worked in Forestry for 10 years or so.
In my region in that time there has been one child killed on a log pile.
Take that in the context very few people are misinformed enough to climb on them – and they are always well signed to keep off. So shit does happen.
do you really think very few people climb on them? Thats not my observation in busy areas, and I’ve never seen one move so whilst the risk is real and consequneces potentially high, the likelihood factor is actually fairly low.
40kg bundle of Kath Kidston fabric and norovirus
I genuinely "lol'd" at that!
Live, Love, Logpile...
ROYAL CHILD DOES DANGER FING!
While it would be unfortunate if the heir to the heir got smooshed, my main concern is the poor children of easily-influenced morons who see this happy frollicking on social media and are currently planning a lovely day out in the forest at the weekend.
Poor old Forestry Commission PR is probably hiding under their desk praying they don't have to issue a statement criticising the sainted Kate.
Youtube recommended this video for me yesterday..
Bloke makes a shelter by piling loads of heavy logs on much thinner logs, and camps underneath.
No idea on carbon monoxide risk either.
Live, Love, Logpile…
I'm just waiting for the follow-up video making grain angels in the silos at Sandringham. Family fun!
I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix…
’I doubt’ doing a lot of heavy lifting there. These things do collapse, people do get killed. I’m not sure ‘doubt’ is good enough for my own children.
BTW I’m not some sort of namby-pamby parent, my kids are outdoors and free-range in a lot of ways that would horrify most ‘urban’ parents. However, log piles are an unnecessary risk. There’s loads to do in a forest without resorting to that.
Coming up on Jeremy Vine, who's gonna phone in??????????????
Bloke makes a shelter by piling loads of heavy logs on much thinner logs
Jeez, a hammock & tarp & he'd be set up in 5 minutes!
Jeez, a hammock & tarp & he’d be set up in 5 minutes!
Yeah but mediocre youtube content... you've got to think about likes/subscribes/algorithms...
As a kid, they look like a massive fun climbing frame, the risk is not evident. As an adult, the possible collapse mechanism is obvious.
perhaps the signs should give a bit of explanation as to why and how they are dangerous, rather than just “keep off”
Part of me wants to ride a (e)bike over them - with my theory that a collapsing stack of 30cm dia logs would not let a 29er wheel sink in… just don’t put a foot down…
As an adult, the possible collapse mechanism is obvious.
You would think. From some replies on this thread it seems not.
Also quite enjoyed the video, in a 'wtf did i just watch' kinda way.
He spent hours building a camouflaged bivvy then finished by sticking up a shiny chimney and lighting a fire!!!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
This will go down great at work.
Forever telling contractors to sort their signage who are like what's the point? public just ignore it all anyway. There we go, assume the expensive educations rule out illiteracy?
Also know the Duchy forester, so tempted to drop him a message about missing signs, but he's probably chucked his phone out the window by now.
^^Username checks out
So......purely theoretically you understand.....for those of us of a republican disposition.
If the log pile had done it's thing - who'd be in line for the birthright gig now? Harry the spare? Or has he forfeit his chance with the ****ing off to the states shenanigans?
IHN – never seen the signs? “do not climb on the log piles” IME they are all over forestry operations
I have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.Well, clearly not. You might be able to, bit other peoples brains are wired differently and may not be able to tell. If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
Exactly. I’d look at it and think “see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability”
West Woods near Marlborough regularly have long stacks of logs along the access roads throughout the woods, they ALWAYS have signs, because the woods attract lots of visitors who walk through them, especially at Bluebell time. Another place I walk regularly has an open area where a track leads down into the valley and tree clearing often takes place and the cut logs ALWAYS have signs on them!
You have absolutely no idea, nor does anyone else, as to what it might take to dislodge a log, causing a chain reaction that could result in someone having their legs crushed, or even worse.
Not only are you ignorant as to the dangers inherent in several hundred tons of logs sitting in the open, often on surfaces that are anything but level, but wilfully ignorant, and almost proud to display that ignorance!
People like you shouldn’t be allowed out into the woods and countryside, without a minder keeping you on a leash to prevent you risking yourself and others!
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Anyone can see these stacks would be perfectly fine to clamber over…
I remember being hysterical getting my head stuck between two logs in a logpile - super early memory, I might have been five or something. I've long reflected on how terribly wrong that could have gone.
Is it ok to let your bike climb on them
Only when accompanied by a responsible larger bike.
Noting here that I've never seen a sign about climbing log piles in my local forestry... They actually close* the whole area to public access when there's felling and stacking to avoid any of this risk.
*mainly put signs up telling you to bugger off but sometimes they have checkpoints.
Where the chuff is he going to play cricket? Why is he walking around with a bat and ball. " No officer I didn't bludgeon her to death, she got caught in the log pile. Dangerous things don't you know."
I'm getting some logs delivered this morning, they are going to tip them onto the road in a pile and then I'll wheelbarrow them to the log store and stack them. Will I die if I have a little climb on them first?
Hmm... <thinks back to when every ride that went through Grizedale forest had a competition between us to see who could get the furthest across each log pile encountered, technique was go as fast as possible, pull up and monster truck as far as you could over the logs>
I’m just waiting for the follow-up video
I’m not because these I am cancer-free reveals tend to only go one way in my family’s experience. I hope that the treatment has been successful. But is a bastard of a disease that hits all the family.
And “Do not climb on the log pile. It may collapse at any moment”, is a better sign than “Keep Off”. Context is no bad thing.
If the log pile had done it’s thing – who’d be in line for the birthright gig now? Harry the spare? Or has he forfeit his chance with the **** off to the states shenanigans?
In those tragic circumstances, the first thing would be to closely check the family trees to see who had survived
Shirley I'm not the only one to remember the episode from The Waltons where one of the kids breaks her legs playing on a logpile?!
It warned me off for life
On the log, GO!
That's a specialised piece of training apparatus not a log. Speaking as one who did his Saturdays & Sundays training in Woolwich with a large piece of tree, fell over and spent 10 days having to unstick knees from sheets every morning.
In those tragic circumstances, the first thing would be to closely check the family trees to see who had survived
Post of the week, right there!
The wife that dies at the beginning of the movie
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who enjoyed that reference to Gladiator, but was puzzled by it - when will she be fighting the tigers?
Can we report her to social services for endangering the life of a child?