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A lot of my family were 'Woodmen' in the Highlands, early 50's .
Most of the stories about folk getting badly injured involved a woodpile/stack.
Was my first thought too on seeing that. GET YOUR KIDS OFF THE ****ING WOODPILE!
Anyway, here it is with the correct music.
https://twitter.com/SoozUK/status/1833171840346300671
those who can do no wrong can release a video with zero comment or criticism
What's Angela Rayner done this time?!?!?
Away back in the '70's watching forest rallies first two safety rules were never stand on the outside of a corner or anywhere near a log pile
Walking through a forest using your ears the twin Weber induction could be heard for miles but a group 1 rs 2000 or Avenger made you dive over the ditch with 5 seconds to spare if you were lucky although not going too fast and a bit boring to say the least
Well I'm fifty years old and didn't know that climbing on log piles was dangerous, so maybe they didn't either.
Yeah, I didn't make it to the woodpile either. Surprised but not surprised that they have (presumably, as country people) never seen the signs - not sure I've seen a Forestry woodpile in years without one.
Well I’m fifty years old and didn’t know that climbing on log piles was dangerous, so maybe they didn’t either.
You can tell just by looking at them the high likelihood of collapse and consequences thereof. Without being told surely? Having to explain it seems akin to labelling coffee cups with 'caution - contents hot'.
Is it ok to let your bike climb on them?
That video was nauseating, is that what she really released as her big cancer free reveal?
I hope any other cancer sufferers on extended NHS waiting lists, struggling with benefits or continuing to work out of necessity despite being really ill, takes a lot of comfort from that soft focussed idealised view of a tax payer funded life of luxury.
You can tell just by looking at them the high likelihood of collapse and consequences thereof. Without being told surely?
Well, clearly not. You might be able to, bit other peoples brains are wired differently and may not be able to tell. If you are not asking yourself the question 'could this pile collapse' many wouldn't consider it. Why would they?
Having to explain it seems akin to labelling coffee cups with ‘caution – contents hot’.
That's quite a stretch. Coffee cups are universally known to contain hot liquids. Log piles are not universally known to collapse.
IHN - never seen the signs? "do not climb on the log piles" IME they are all over forestry operations
I just tried to watch the original video, its even worse with voice over. Its like a day time television charity ad. I was expecting her, at any time, to say "that for just £5 per month, you can support other struggling Royals...."
Nobody died, get over it.
Till someone does the same after they saw her do it.
Like a video I watched recently of a couple of folk with bikes standing in the bed of a 4x4 tearing up a forest track, which then nearly wipes out after the tail catches something. Everyone in the comments crying about Karens pointing out how ****ing stupid it was.
There was a horrific incident in our local forest where someone was killed by a collapsing logpile, absolutely tragic.
Sadly it took something 'local' for the danger to become real to me.
IHN – never seen the signs? “do not climb on the log piles” IME they are all over forestry operations
I have yes, but I'd assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
Well, clearly not. You might be able to, bit other peoples brains are wired differently and may not be able to tell. If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
Exactly. I'd look at it and think "see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability"
Till someone does the same after they saw her do it.
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The bits of that video I saw on the news were absolutely nauseating, no awareness of how long normal people have to wait in queues for consultation and treatment....
If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
Because to safely navigate this world, especially outdoors requires a modicum of common sense and low level risk assessment. I'm not saying there is no need for signs. I accept that common sense isn't that common. I just think (hope) that the percentage of people who NEED to be told coffee is hot or log piles are unstable is small. Perhaps I'm being a little naive?
That’s quite a stretch. Coffee cups are universally known to contain hot liquids.
So why does it need to be explained if it's "universally known"?
Log piles are not universally known to collapse.
And hot coffee is not universally known to burn you. In most instances it won't - the comparison is valid imo.
If that lot get taken out by a log pile collapse then Harry is next in line to the throne. Makes you think…
have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
But surely you tried stacking pencils?!
Now think bigger....
“see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability
And yet people still get killed by them, so it would seem that not everyone has the necessary education in civil engineering to correctly estimate the angle of repose of heavy logs.
If you are not asking yourself the question ‘could this pile collapse’ many wouldn’t consider it. Why would they?
A responsible land owner would understand the risks associated with industry on his or hers land.
I believe they own a few acres...
These are not a bunch of townies popping out to the local copse for the day. They are at the top of a great big rural empire.
The video really was straight up creepy though.
Like a video I watched recently of a couple of folk with bikes standing in the bed of a 4×4 tearing up a forest track
Yeah, when I was about 12, a girl at my school died when she fell off the back of a truck and smashed her skull in. Couple of adults thought it would be fun to take a group of kids for a ride on the truck. When you're a kid (or idiot) you don't understand why grown-ups don't want you to do all the fun stuff.
Perhaps I’m being a little naive?
I'm afraid you are.
The coffee comparison is not valid because, in day to day life, everyone is likely to come into contact with a cup full of hot liquid that may still be hot enough to cause a burn. It is universally known and the presence of the label is often joked about. The warning is a genuine legal arse covering exercise.
Log piles on the other hand are not something that everyone is likely to come into contact in their day to day life. Therefore the risk is not universally known. They are also quite picturesque and often seen in pictures with bikes leaning against them or families posing. The risk of those big heavy things collapsing simply won't occur to some folks. Hence the signs.
Fair enough. I thought it would be obvious to most people who have survived to adulthood that a stack of heavy cylindrical objects is potentially unstable, even if they've never encountered one in that form. I accept I'm wrong in that assumption. I do wonder though, how such people navigate the world safely, without every hot, pointy, sharp, heavy or unstable object being labelled for them.
Thread title needs amending with "royals content" or "vomit bucket advised".
Pretty much every FC log pile has a "Danger Do Not Climb" sign on it.
Log piles in your 1000 acre "garden" may not.
Just one of many odd things about that video. Presumably Prince Andrew said "I've got this great idea to ease yourself back into public life".
I accept I’m wrong
You're not wrong. Your point was valid.
I've been the victim of a log pile collapse and it wasn't fun. Working in the industry so a job with inherent risks. I was cross cutting one of the logs on the ground in front of the stack. Stupidly had my back to the stack and was stood between log and stack when a workmate shouted the stack was moving. I stepped one foot over the log to get away but my trailing foot took the impact and was pinned between the log I had been cutting and one of the falling logs. I got out but resulted in a badly sprained ankle and six weeks off work. Could have been a lot worse though. That was about thirty years ago and I still have nagging pain in that ankle.
Also found that video creepy when I saw it on the news last night as a currently clear cancer patient.
The sort of person that would 1) watch a video with those nauseating royal kids in, 2) copy what they do and 3) ignore signs saying it's dangerous... would they be a loss to mankind?
I have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
That is by far the dumbest thing I've read on here in a long time and that's saying something.
The sort of person that would 1) watch a video with those nauseating royal kids in, 2) copy what they do and 3) ignore signs saying it’s dangerous… would they be a loss to mankind?
H&S has pretty much removed the positive aspect of Darwinian selection, and is probably responsible for a lot of societys current woes.
(Tongue in cheek emoji)
Some people are poor at assessing risks. There was a child killed at our local reservoir. There is an unfenced path running along a high embankment. Parents allowed child to cycle along this path. Lost control and went down embankment hitting the stone wall at the bottom.
Sometime after this death the council recommended it as a safe cycling route. Risk assessment having gone no further than no cars
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Tragic+fall+spot+%27safe+for+cycles%27.-a0231669961
Logs aren't for climbing on, they're for carrying.
On the log, GO!
They don’t, they own an expensive car
Sounds good, I'd like that kind of money. How can I become one of these terrible people?
Logs aren’t for climbing on, they’re for carrying.
On the log, GO!
FFS, flashback trauma! You owe me a counselling session!
Haha, wait until we start talking stretchers!
So I've worked in Forestry for 10 years or so.
In my region in that time there has been one child killed on a log pile.
Take that in the context very few people are misinformed enough to climb on them - and they are always well signed to keep off. So shit does happen.
I once dropped one log off a trailer, my feet slipped on the slimy concrete floor and the log fell all of a foot at most onto my leg.
I cried, a lot.
And it took about a month for the hematoma to go down and be able to walk further than the kitchen.
Tempting fate with a few hundred of the things is just stupidity.
Exactly. I’d look at it and think “see that big pile of massive logs that have settled into each other under their own massive weight, I doubt adding 40kg of child into the mix will make much difference to the overall stability”
And when they find the one log that's finely balanced and rolls off, releasing the one next to it, and the next to it the 40kg bundle of Kath Kidston fabric and norovirus gets entwined with 400kg of moving logs pretty quickly.
I have yes, but I’d assumed they were more along the lines of organisational arse covering fun policing (like the signs telling people not to swim in reservoirs), than actual likely danger.
These sorts of notices tend to be written in blood.