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Peeved about a recent experience. Asked a question about an item on the classifieds, whilst waiting for an answer the next person to post said they would have said item. Poster said it was correct to sell it to the second person in the queue as all I did was ask a question. Would have liked to have been given the option when the question was answered as I posted first.
Doesnt seem correct to me.
Happened to me mate but it's just the luck of the draw. I said I'd have the item but someone e-mailed direct. I suppose if you look at it from the sellers point of view they will go for the first confirmed sale,which i would do in the same position.
Seems ok to me. First person to offer the asking price gets the item in my book.
bit grey and a matter of etiquette at most. Move on.
If you really want it you need to cut to the chase and make an offer. Direct email and thread post is best too. Seller's approach was fair enough IMO.
If its a choice between a question or a sale I know which one I'd take.
You should have phrased your reply better; eg "I'll take it if it's the one without a display". Grey area, but first full price offer gets it.
I'll always use email as well as a post. Often the post will be after the email and as such it may look like I'm further down the list.
If it's something I definitely want 'I'll take it, although I do have a question...' seems to do the trick.
I'd have to agree, if one person wants me to give them pics and the other person wants to give me cash money, I'll take the money thanks.
I don't think that's too unfair?
Although I must admit, if I was selling something I'd always make a point of adding pics. You can just about g/tee that you'll be asked for them and it's a much better way to sell.
Frankly, if it was me, I would have respected the order of any emails, questions or not, that came in.
But thats just me.
You are a true gentleman Sir! 😀 😉
But thats just me
Judging by the responses I think that's bang on.
Clipper68, unfortunately you do get people that ask 20 questions then offer half the price.
If you really want an item then do what's advised here, conditional offer.
Its a grey area as its up to the seller and it varies between sellers as to what they think is appropriate etiquette.
I've missed out on items when I've offered full price but because someone has asked a question before my offer they have 'dibs' and then take it. Just move on...
yes it surprises me the lack of etiquette shown on the classifieds considering how polite and civil the rest of the forum is 😯
I agree with you but sellers choice.
Dont get me wrong, I have moved on. Just wanted to get other members views.
Rest assured, if I'm selling stuff (I have a list, just need to get it all on) i'll go by the order they came in.
I also don't bear grudges too. 😀
TBH, you can spend all day answering questions. Doesn't mean someone will buy the item.
First person who offers the money takes. The person who just offers and pays the money though has the nightmare that if something isn't right on receiving...TOUGH. You should have asked that before shouldn't you?
..but thats part of the risk of rushing ahead.
I don't think it's unreasonable really, asking a question isn't the same as saying you want it.
No, but it verifies its the correct item. I also like to see a pic of the actual item to verify it exists
I take a view that the item belongs to the seller and it's theirs to sell to who they want.
I've been peeved off a couple of times with sellers who have lead me to believe it's mine, then told me it's been collected and sold, but it's their perogative.
I agree with most above, whoever comes up with the cash first, people offering cash on immediate collection would get first dibs in my sale, not whoever saw the ad first.
I always respect the order for who has offered to buy it, but a question isn't an offer to buy. So I think the seller has been fine.
How about a change of listing procedure similar to that on radar? No photo - no listing? If it says 'no offers' in the listing, dont make them!It would save a lot of wasted postings for the mods to check, and a lot of wasted emails replying to photo collectors! If they wernt interested after seeing the photo's in the listing, they wouldn't reply - less timewasters - more likely to get first refusal - sorted
contract is formed on acceptance of offer.
First person to make an offer would get the buy for me. Anyone 'baggsying' it would be ignored too. People asking questions are doing just that, why would I give someone asking questions preference?
[i]Rest assured, if I'm selling stuff (I have a list, just need to get it all on) i'll go by the order they came in. [/i]
Yeah, you'll go by the order that people make you offers, you'll not hang around waiting to see if the first ten people who asked a question want it before offering it to the eleventh guy who said 'I'll give you what you want for it', will you?
Rest assured, if I'm selling stuff (I have a list, just need to get it all on) i'll go by the order they came in.
*makes note to ask lots of pointless questions and then back out*
There's lots of punks on the classifieds on this website.
More importantly, those who are regular and seem to be god's gift to the mtb community are certainly not excluded from being the punks.
Would rather buy new with warranty and get it sent to me quickly for extra ££.
Seems illogical to buy from here unless your sourcing very cheap parts to build a pub build imo.
Illogical to buy from here? Well to you but to others it helps the buyer and seller so everyone wins - if all goes well anyway.
As to the OP - well I had a few questions about my house when I put it on the market but I still took the 1st offer that was acceptable - I'm funny like that.
There are some really annoying buyers who post on the thread "ygm", "pm sent" or whatever, and then email you an offer for about 60% of the asking price.
There are also people who will snap up anything thats a bargain without ever intending to put it on a bike.
money talks bullshit walks
a question is a question
a offer is an offer
Seller was correct in taking first actual offer.
On the subject of etiquette, I think it's bad form to start a thread telling tales on other members without first discussing it with them
money talks bullshit walksa question is a question
a offer is an offer
Amen
No 'dibs'. First to offer cash amount I agree with gets the item my book.
To the accusation of telling tales, my initial post didn't mention any names or specific items just the experience.
I would rather end this thread if people are going to get nasty over it. All I was asking for was peoples opinion not tit for tat tale telling so get your facts straight. I refer back to the post that said I have moved on and dont bear grudges. The one with the smiley face.
Interesting bit of censorship there. I didn't swear, the word x'ed out is also a little bird of the blue or great variety.... 😀
Depends on the seriousness of the question etc.... but you would have to say you will take it with the conditional question. Then if the seller knows its a negative answer to the question and sells before you can counter question then its fine. Generally you get a few people ask for a photo that never even acknowledge they got it and then someone like me offer a silly price.
This is pretty complicated stuff for a sunday evening.
I wasn't being nasty. I was only offering an opinion. I'm not aware that I tried to state any facts, nevertheless i will take on board your advice and get them straight if i do use them. I'm glad to hear you have moved on and hope we can do so with respect to this thread.
🙂
Sorry that sounded a bit harsh mate but it seems to have got out of hand. I will be rephrasing any questions I send to buyers with the 'i will have it if its the ......' type thing in future.
Lesson learnt, all is well!
This is pretty complicated stuff for a sunday evening.
No it's not.
Whenever I sell something I receive umpteen prospective-buyers with 'really keen'/lots of questions and 'I'll take it'.
You end up not hearing from the 'I'll take it's'.
Its when someone says 'money paid to you/should be in your account now' that you know its sold.
Its the nature of the game. People are allowed to change their minds but asking a question in NO WAY means its sold does it? If that was the case I'd have sold my Blur4x 50times by now.
You have Blur for sale? Do you have any photos? How much do you want for it, What condition is the frame in? What percentage wear is left in the tyres? When were the bearing s bushes last serviced. What colour is it? Does it have pockets?
Hora, I'll take it if it's the got the original 2008 transmogrifier on it
I have a charcoal-rendering of the frame wandering around the moors in autumn.
The wear indicator on the tyres are set to 'semi-core'.
The bushes have been trimmed back and ready for flowering next spring.
It has four pockets although two of these could be classed as pen/stilo-type only. Hope this is ok?
Hora is the last person that should be giving advice on classifieds etiquette, an offer is not always an offer.... Wanna buy some Pikes? 😉