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To be fair though, this is Boris Johnson, unless it was signed in his own blood on the skin of Dominic Cummings it doesn’t count for a thing

Serious people a layer or two down, though.

It is the same throughout history when it comes to organised wrongdoing. Don't focus on the functionaries, don't focus on the ones who go around doing the enforcing. Concentrate on the ones raking in the cash.


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 10:55 pm
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When even a Brexiteer dimwit like Liz Truss is saying ‘hang on a minute chaps, this ‘no deal’ thing might actually not be that great an idea’ you know that we really are ****ed

Dom will now sack her for pointing out the emperors new clothes, obviously

https://twitter.com/richardgcorbett/status/1282072960170364929?s=21


 
Posted : 13/07/2020 11:38 pm
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[strong]binners[/strong] wrote:

The whole of Kent is just going to be one enormous lorry park on January 1st

currently trending on Twitter as #FarageGarage 🙂

Make them own it.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 1:00 am
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I remained hopeful that he’d call for an extension due to Covid but actually Covid and the associated wrecking of the economy in advance of Brexit

Don’t think that was going to ever happen, I think Boris’s strategy is to run The clock down and piece together a last minute deal, his own side won’t have enough time to see what he’s agreed to and will have To sell it as a great victory.(Repackaged transition anyone with extra frills).


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 8:08 am
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You'd think this would be coming straight from the pages of a satirical website but no, it's The Guardian and it's all depressingly true.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/13/gove-delivers-lorry-load-of-oven-ready-brexit-with-no-ingredients


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 8:10 am
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together a last minute deal

There's no last minute deal. Withdrawal Agreement is signed, deadline for extension has passed. We are now negotiating an FTA as a third country.

Life comes at you fast, as the saying goes.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 9:00 am
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As a country, we are definitely oven ready now. Utterly plucked with a lemon shoved where the sun don't shine.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 9:42 am
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Will the gammons ever admit that all the talk of frictionless trade was always a blatant fallacy and that they were conned? Guess not, it will still be 'remoaners' fault somehow.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 9:47 am
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Johnson, fat, oafish, ****less, lazy pillock that he is, didn’t expect to bloody win. The muppet.

He wanted a narrow loss, so he could get the leadership as a ‘People’s Champion’ who could bang the nationalist drum with a safety net of not actually having to do anything.

Absolutely bang on! We're in this mess because that clown couldn't even get that right.

That look on his face and his opportunist partner-in-crime in the press conference the next morning said it all. While the Faragists were all going mental, waving their little flags and popping champagne corks, those looks said...

Oh shit!


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 9:51 am
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^^^^^

Yep, they realised at this point that they couldn't even trust the 'great' british public to narrowly lose something.

What an epic fail this whole thing has been from start to finish.

In another lovely bit of irony (it would be funny if it was happening to someone else) the Faragists are beginning to realise they were sold a pup whilst De Pfeffel gets his shot as playing Churchill for a bit and not having to suffer any consequences.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 10:39 am
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The faragists are beginning to realise they're not getting what they wanted. This is because Brexit was always sold as what it is not, not what it could be. Not in Europe. Not under the yoke of the EU. Not.
Unfortunately the only way to deliver that is make pretty much everything else also 'not'. Not successful, not what anyone wants, unless you happen to already be very well off, thank you, and can put all your money outside this mess until the dust settles, then come back in and buy everything for peanuts.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:40 pm
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Have the Leicester garment sweatshops given us a glimpse of the future - as envisaged by johnson and gove, his polyp.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 12:59 pm
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Obviously Leicester is an extreme case but that is the direction we have to head to set ourselves apart from Europe/European laws/working practices


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 1:04 pm
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Its the only way it can work.

The only business model that makes any sense post-Brexit will be to become a satallite/subservient bitch of the US. So we jettison environmental standards, workers' rights, food standards, the welfare state, and universal healthcare to allow huge tax cuts for the rich which will turn us into an offshore tax haven, just with shit weather.

It's worth listening to what Gove says and assume the actual intention is the polar opposite of what that slimy little sock-puppet states.

He's said all along that Brexit will allow us to build a high skill/high wage economy, and that freedom from EU regulations will allow us to increase our food standards and environmental controls

So you can take it as read that none of that will be happening. The reverse of it most definitely will


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 1:25 pm
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The only business model that makes any sense post-Brexit will be to become a satallite/subservient bitch of the US. So we jettison environmental standards, workers’ rights, food standards, the welfare state, and universal healthcare to allow huge tax cuts for the rich which will turn us into an offshore tax haven, just with shit weather.

There was a documentary on this exact outcome on TV recently.
It was called The Hunger Games...


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 3:06 pm
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Have the Leicester garment sweatshops given us a glimpse of the future – as envisaged by johnson and gove, his polyp.

The Leicester garment sweatshops are already an illustration of extremely dodgy working practices and borderline bonded labour being legitimised.

15-20 years ago the 'underground' garment manufacturing in Leicester was renowned for producing knock-offs of designer label clothes - pretty much 100% illegal counterfeiting. Now they have been exposed by covid, it transpires they are making intentionally labelled garments for 'kosher' brands. Brands that the bigger stockists have felt the need to distance themselves from. No covid, no exposure. They would have continued producing over the counter rather than under the counter garments and hardly anyone would say a thing.

But as a working model of post-Brexit britain I think we will see some of those practices become widespread.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 4:48 pm
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The working practices in Leicester will come as no surprise to anyone who's read No Logo

And hand-in-hand with those working practices always go what used to referred to as 'Export Processing Zones', now rebranded as 'Freeports'

The 'Freeports' championed by Gove and co as the saviors of our economy were once the exclusive reserve of such delightful regimes as Burma's military dictatorship

Rishi Sunak reportedly planning to open bidding for towns, cities and regions to become designated zones where UK taxes and tariffs will not apply

They're basically setting up a tax-dodging infrastructure for international corporations to take advantage of.

In other places it's been used as the thin end of the wedge too. Firstly tax and tariffs don't apply within these zones, the next thing you know all manner of other things become exempt too... workers rights, union recognition, environmental controls. That sort of thing.

I can't imagine why this shower is so keen on promoting them, can you?

If you've not read No Logo then it's worth a read. Just so you know where we're headed


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 5:08 pm
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I may have posted this back in 2016 but it’s worth repeating if only for the prophetic insight:

‘Heartland’ by Matt Johnson/The The (Some Bizarre/Epic Records 1986
Beneath the old iron bridges, across the Victorian parks
And all the frightened people running home before dark
Past the Saturday morning cinema that lies crumbling to the ground
And the piss stinking shopping center in the new side of town
I've come to smell the seasons change and watch the city
As the sun goes down again
Here comes another winter of long shadows and high hopes
Here comes another winter waitin' for utopia
Waitin' for hell to freeze over
This is the land where nothing changes
The land of red buses and blue blooded babies
This is the place, where pensioners are raped
And the hearts are being cut from the welfare state
Let the poor drink the milk while the rich eat the honey
Let the bums count their blessings while they count the money
So many people can't express what's on their minds
Nobody knows them and nobody ever will
Until their backs are broken and their dreams are stolen
And they can't get what they want then they're gonna get angry
Well it ain't written in the papers, but it's written on the walls
The way this country is divided to fall
So the cranes are moving on the skyline
Trying to knock down this town
But the stains on the heartland, can never be removed
From this country that's sick, sad, and confused
Here comes another winter of long shadows and high hopes
Here comes another winter waitin' for utopia
Waitin' for hell to freeze over
The ammunition's being passed and the lords been praised
But the wars on the televisions will never be explained
All the bankers gettin' sweaty beneath their white collars
As the pound in our pocket turns into a dollar
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.
This is the 51st state of the U.S.A.

2 years ago I did ask my most Brexity chum (he almost worships Farage, even copies his emphasis and speaking style, and is obsessed with immigrants and ‘remoaners’ whom he literally sees as ‘traitors‘ to the country) what he thought about what I saw as the UK becoming more aligned with US policy/politics and the attendant selloffs. He said (paraphrase) ‘Better that than all these unelected EU officials and ****ing immigrants, so it sounds alright to me’

He’s not lived in the USA. Or ever had to face selling his home because he or his loved ones got sick. Of course. Neither does he appreciate that two of his closest-friends had to do just that (but that’s the total narcissism/short-sightedness/lack of empathy involved in such a cult-mentality?)

So where to for SS England/Britain? Only the apathy, confusion, horrified resignation and sheer dumbfoundedness of the electorate/crew remains. With such depleted skills a last-minute revolution/tack around the approaching iceberg is not on the cards because ( to further torture the nautical analogy)... that ship has sailed and anyway the crew are now either drunk or asleep or else watching it unfold slow-motion in Twittervision as infotainment.

Even if there wasn’t a nasty bug/smokescreen going around I’m pretty sure the excuses would still be ‘blame it on the EU, foreigners and remoaners‘ even as the ship goes down.

And then you won’t see those ****ers for dust, as the prime-movers all had their personal lifeboats and havens all sorted. Even as they told us remoaners ‘if you don’t like it, then leave’.

Believe me, I would, in a heartbeat but someone seems to have burned all the bridges. ‘Keep calm and carrion’


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 5:16 pm
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Ah… Minford on Newsnight sounding like he has not a clue how business and international trade works… it’s like 2016 again.


 
Posted : 14/07/2020 11:57 pm
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Minford was proper bonkers

Apparently the £7bn annual cost of all the new customs red tape won't happen because WTO rules say you don't have to pay extra costs !?!?!


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 12:12 am
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I thought Patrick Minford died years ago - wrong.


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 12:21 am
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Minford was proper bonkers

Apparently the £7bn annual cost of all the new customs red tape won’t happen because WTO rules say you don’t have to pay extra costs !?!?!

We're BRITAIN, and we'll pay what we bloody well want to, which is NOTHING - traitor remoaner.


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 12:46 am
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We’re BRITAIN, and we’ll pay what we bloody well want to, which is NOTHING – traitor remoaner.

We don't have to pay for anything we don't want to. But then nor can we expect to have the benefits.

That some oaf is now going on Newsnight and talking this kind of shit about the WTO (which was the 'oh no, my god, we will not end up there' option about 12 months ago but now seems to be the 'go-to option' for a thrusting modern britain) has a neat symmetry to it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 10:09 am
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Could we use the correct title please? We're heading for an 'Australian Style' Deal. Not 'No Deal'. Not a 'Crash Out'. Its an 'Australian Style' Deal.

I'm sure that before long we'll have a three word slogan to trumpet its virtues.

A spokesman for the Chinese government has just been on Radio 4 this morning, stating the bleeding obvious regarding the repercussions of our rejection of Warwai.

He described the UK (correctly) as now being a second-tier European nation, outside the EU, and that we have now completely subjegated our foreign policy to the Trump White House


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 10:30 am
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Are we levelling up on an oven-ready Australian style deal?


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 10:54 am
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Are we levelling up on an oven-ready Australian style deal?

"You Little Ripper"?


 
Posted : 15/07/2020 11:02 am
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Chris Grey nails it again

The cost of customs

These costs – just as regards customs declarations, before any other costs are considered – will amount to £7 billion a year (£) to UK businesses trading with the EU, rising to £13 billion (£) when EU businesses trading with the UK are included. It’s worth reflecting on these figures. They compare to the approximately £9 billion net contribution the UK made to the EU in 2018. It’s not a one-off, but a recurring annual cost. And, to repeat, it exists whether or not there is a trade deal – it is nothing to do with any tariffs that may be levied or any other trade barriers that may arise.

i particularly like:

The slogan for the information campaign is ‘Let’s Get Going’, which some businesses might reasonably take as a suggestion to relocate abroad while there’s still time.


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 10:18 am
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but we can't have an Australia deal as that involves replicating agreements that exist between Australia and the EU. What we are heading for is "Australia -"


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 10:37 am
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Ahh but they added the term ‘style‘

I do admire who came up with that ‘Australian Style’ Deal phrase,it’s just such a great piss take, rebranding no-deal so it sounds like they’ve actually done something as opposed to wasting 4 years.

Brexits just a jolly jape.

Let’s Get Going 🙂


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 11:20 am
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In case it hasn't been mentioned the plan Is to scrap the low value exemption on imports.

So anything you buy will have VAT, duty and and handling fee applied. The days of buying tyres at sensible tyres from Germany are coming to an end. You can still do it but prepare for stupid prices. How long till the importers ramp prices because they can?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hmrc-impact-assessment-for-the-vat-treatment-of-low-value-parcels/hmrc-impact-assessment-for-the-vat-treatment-of-low-value-parcels


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 9:36 pm
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ts all a smear

https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1284602784449531904


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 9:48 pm
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have to wonder how people will respond when they realise what Brexit means?


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 10:03 pm
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have to wonder how people will respond when they realise what Brexit means?

If they didnt understand what Brexit meant 4 years ago then anything short of a explanation attached to a length of 2x4 and swung vigorously in their direction will fail to sink home


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 10:23 pm
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If they didnt understand what Brexit meant 4 years ago then anything short of a explanation attached to a length of 2×4 and swung vigorously in their direction will fail to sink home

January will be the 2x4, that is rather the point, when the sunny uplands are obviously not happening, when the nasty EU demands that they queue in the non eu lanes, when they discover travel insurance costs more, when the price of everything rises, when there are shortages, when red tape swaps everything. etc etc etc.


 
Posted : 19/07/2020 10:28 pm
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ts all a smear

So in case you were still wondering if the report found that Russia interfered in the referendum, now we can be certain it does.


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 1:52 am
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"Don't smear Brexit".

**** off.

It will 'smear' itself when the bloody idiots in this country actually wake up to the fact they are worse off because of it and they got nothing they wanted.

Pointing out that it was all the result of Russian interference (given the closeness of the result this is a reasonable statement IMO) is just the icing on the cake. Just enough interference to sway a narrow result away from the grown ups.

Game, set and match to Putin.


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 10:39 am
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I wonder if The conservative friends of Russia, Carrie Symonds, Harry Cole and Guido get a mention

She's had quite the rise through the ranks


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 10:50 am
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So in case you were still wondering if the report found that Russia interfered in the referendum, now we can be certain it does.

We can be certain that the Express thinks there was Russian interference... (who doesn't)... but the report itself might still be quite equivocal about it, in the absence of hard evidence. There must me something in there that reflects badly on key people in the current no10 team though... or we'd have read it last year, and there wouldn't be a string of Conservative MPs sacked to keep it unreleased...

Last week's Russian style "news shaping" ready for this finally coming out was... and I kid you not... Cummings sending a string of Tories out to the media to say that... "because the Report has been so delayed, it is now out of date, so should be ignored"... through the looking glass stuff. Depressing. What depresses me most is the keenness for BBC news programmes to support this "news shaping" rather than challenge it... we're not heading to a good place, are we.


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 11:12 am
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It will remain ignored when the bloody idiots in this country never wake up to the fact they are worse off because of it, and so continue to point fingers at ‘remoaners’, foreigners/the EU, ‘lefties’, immigrants, refugees and homosexuals

FTFY


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 1:06 pm
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It’s been a while… but a Conservative MP is proposing something you’d think everyone could agree with…

https://twitter.com/jdjanogly/status/1285094900380434432?s=21

https://twitter.com/hansardsociety/status/1285190708962496512?s=21


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 7:11 pm
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Harder… harder… harder…

“No cooperation”

“Er… this is our project, and arguably benefits the UK more than any country, other than perhaps Germany”

“No cooperation”

https://twitter.com/kluwerblogger/status/1285183599625502722?s=21


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 7:30 pm
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It will ‘smear’ itself when the bloody idiots in this country actually wake up to the fact they are worse off because of it and they got nothing they wanted.

By which time it'll be far too late to do anything about it.

The Russia report was delayed until we were past the point of no-return, past the point at which one or two remainer MPs might have possibly been able to say "hang on a sec, this is all a bit fishy, we'll put forward a motion to extend transition". Now it's just another water under the bridge moment to join the ranks of lies which are already piled up around Boris and the Tories and which will likely go unremarked.

The Leavers don't care, they got what they wanted (or more accurately, at the moment they think they're getting what they were promised of forriners going home), the Renainers knew all along so it's no great surprise and we're back at the start with a divided nation.


 
Posted : 20/07/2020 7:48 pm
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Oh well, unscrutinised trade deals passed without a vote to accept them it is then… obviously…

https://twitter.com/balancepoweruk/status/1285307187062083586?s=21


 
Posted : 21/07/2020 1:45 am
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may as well scrap parliament, it serves little purpose now.I'm sure that is on PM Dom's list to do.


 
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My question is, as a person living in BC who is considering coming back. Will the legal payed annual leave, and relatively low cost of living/high wages be impacted by this.

Or to put it another way. Will the UK become as expensive as BC, and will you only get 10 days payed annual leave once Brexit happens?


 
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