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“the man who weaponised Britain’s stupid”

This plus a gazillion.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 6:35 pm
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When it comes to the shenanigans around the Leave campaign and Joris Bohnson’s rise to power, he knows where the bodies are buried

They daren't touch him


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 7:32 pm
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Hmmm now about those select committees any sign of them restarting yet ?


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 8:43 pm
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Well, Cummings will be avoiding them once they do chug back into life… you can be sure of that.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 8:52 pm
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he knows where the bodies are buried

They daren’t touch him

And this plus a gazillion.

He could (and would) show just what a corrupt and dirty stitch up the Leave campaign really was.

Keep your friends close and your (potential) enemies closer and don’t double-cross a Machiavellian shit like Cummings.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 10:03 pm
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Apart from the obvious... that he’s an arrogant, obnoxious little shit, why do you think he’s swaggering about number ten, dressed like a homeless bloke, acting like he owns the place?

Because he does.

He knows too much. They owe the leave vote and their majority to him, so he’s untouchable.

For now.

He’s forgetting that he’s dealing with the Tory party. They’re utterly ruthless. They knifed their Messiah ... Thatcher... without a seconds thought once she became a liability.

Can’t wait until they do it to him and he starts singing. I wonder how many he’ll take down with him.

It’s just a tragedy that the Labour Party is presently about as fit to capitalise on that as is to win the Eurovision Song Contest. Too busy obsessing and bickering with each other over the hugely pressing issue of trans-rights to be distracted by triviality like the biggest (and most successful) right-wing project this country has ever witnessed, which will tear up everything the Labour Party ever achieved

Our political system looks set to continue as an internal argument exclusively within the Tory party. We’re effectively a one party state.

Which is another reason Cummings is carrying on like he is.

Utterly depressing


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 10:19 pm
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Binners - yes, tory party is ruthless as ****; cummings knows they have no allegiance to him - as there is no such thing as 'the tory party' - it's a loosely connected assembly of factions with the only common thread being their collective view of labour.
This whole shitshow will begin to implode when brexiters begin to realise they have been sold a pup; fewer migrants to service their requirements in bars/hotels/restaurants, rising cost of living, the 'wrong' queues at airports, fewer care staff in homes/hospitals.
Well, they voted for this so suck it up but....their vote has forced this onto everyone so we're all sucking this up.
I predict cummimgs will be out mid-year and johnson by year end.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 10:43 pm
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^^ Cummings definitely has a best before date but I hate to say this, Boris will be around to fight and probably win the next election.

F***.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 10:57 pm
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I predict cummimgs will be out mid-year and johnson by year end.

That’s a strong prediction.

The alternative is that they try and burn through as many of our current state structures and international relationships as fast as possible… then paint themselves as the only people to get us out of the mess of their own creation. It’s worked so far. I think it’ll work again, and we have a decade or more of them both turning this country over.

Cummings definitely has a best before date but I hate to say this, Boris will be around to fight and probably win the next election.

I don’t think Cummings will be in his current highly visible role for the whole of this parliament, but when he is “moved”, he’ll still be highly involved behind the scenes, and will be back running things in the six months running up to the next election… to get Johnson another term.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 10:59 pm
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That sounds to me like everyone saying Trump wouldn’t last a year.

Cummings is ‘our’ Steve Bannon

Have you seen the state of the democratic party? They’re clearly modelling themselves on the Labour Party here. A total and utter shambles

Trump is going to walk his re-election. So will Boris. By default

Bannon didn’t last too long once he’d served his purpose. We’ll see if Cummings does. I think he will, personally

The Tory party need him. Look at the cabinet. Not one of those muppets has ever had an original idea in their lives. They need Dom to tell them what to do

A fact he knows only too well


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 11:02 pm
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Kelvin - yes, it's a strong prediction; I stand by it.
Been wrong lots of times before and, with this, probably will be again - but, I live in hope.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 11:06 pm
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Well, I’d love you to be right. What would take their place though? I still fear this is all just a big first second step in the wrong direction, that will quickly be followed by further steps down the downward spiral.


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 11:16 pm
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...He’s forgetting that he’s dealing with the Tory party. They’re utterly ruthless. They knifed their Messiah … Thatcher… without a seconds thought once she became a liability...

They probably wouldn't bother with those niceties. Odds on a car accident or suicide?


 
Posted : 20/02/2020 11:24 pm
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I saw this on a PowerPoint slide today:

"Germany, 4th largest economy in the world and gateway to Europe."


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 3:32 am
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I saw this on a PowerPoint slide today:

“Germany, 4th largest economy in the world and gateway to Europe.”

I thought we'd abolished Europe?

God save the queen. Rule Britannia etc.


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 7:57 am
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I predict cummimgs will be out mid-year and johnson by year end.

They won't be going any where this year. Next year some people will start to realise that life has got even shitter because of Brexit (but not many). A few years after that enough people will realise it to actually trouble Johnson.


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 8:10 am
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“Germany, 4th largest economy in the world and gateway to Europe.”

Wait, what, hang on a minute.

Vote Leave told us we - Britain, the British, all things Tea and Cricket, were the most important thing in Europe and that Europe couldn't do without us and we were special and a princess and had a talking unicorn.

You mean to say that wasn't true?


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 9:10 am
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You mean to say that wasn’t true?

It's ok. The unicorn thing was a shock to me too. I mean, lying through your teeth about immigration and benefits claimants is one thing, but lying about unicorns is bang out of order.

Luckily they will find a donkey and a pink dildo from somewhere and a lot of muppets will still believe.


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 10:52 am
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Johnson honestly doesnt care about Brexit.

Johnson wants to be World King.

Right wing "noise maker" > MP > Mayor of London > Cabinet > PM (insert rapaciously biased US trade deal here) > America > Mayor of New York > World King POTUS.

You can only be POTUS if you were born in the USA.

Johnson was born on 19 June 1964 in the Upper East Side of Manhattan, New York City


 
Posted : 21/02/2020 2:04 pm
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Finally something we can all agree is fantastic news...

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1231121039301730304?s=20


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 2:12 pm
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Finally something we can all agree is fantastic news…

New blue British passport rollout to begin in March https://t.co/RQQa7vmVtE

— Victoria Derbyshire (@vicderbyshire) February 22, 2020

My wife's just ordered her replacement so she can have a Euro/Burgundy one for the next 10 years instead of this emblem of all that's wrong with the country right now.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 3:46 pm
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But, how will she know who she is? Without “British Passport” written across her travel document, her sense of identity will be so diminished.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 3:50 pm
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In yet more irony (which we're obviously not doing any more), They're printed by a French company in Poland.

Perhaps all the Poles that Priti wants to deport will end up printing them?


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 3:59 pm
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But, how will she know who she is? Without “British Passport” written across her travel document, her sense of identity will be so diminished.

She should get the new one. It's printed in Poland.

We've taken back control... 🙂


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 4:00 pm
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They won, they’ll get over it.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 11:35 am
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Another example of the people who voted for it getting the shitty end of the stick.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 11:39 am
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Another example of the people who voted for it getting the shitty end of the stick.

I think the plan was to make it shitty for everyone so there is no longer a shitty end for some, just a completely shitty stick for all. Equality!


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:22 pm
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But we are all holding that stick. If farmers struggle or go under we will have to pay more for food.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:22 pm
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Although having read the article, the payments under the existing scheme are being reduced to help phase in the new scheme, the environment based one.

So whilst the potential for mismanagement and severe damage is huge, it's not quite the same as a simple cut.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:25 pm
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Fisherman next - Boris will concede to EU demands for access to UK waters in order to get some sort of deal by the end of the year.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:27 pm
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He still will not get a deal. there is zero chance of any sort of deal without such a massive capitulation / u turn that he would be ousted in minutes.

Johnson does not care about anything else but power for himself. He will not risk that even tho he will destroy the UK in the pursuit of power


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:32 pm
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It looks like it's Northern Ireland that is next in line to be thrown under the Brexit Bus (again). Joris Bohnson is already backtracking on the border commitments within the withdrawal agreement, and the EU have warned him that the Good Friday Agreement and customs rules are sacrosanct and without strict adherence to them there will be no trade deal.

I don't think Joris gives a flying **** as they're now barely even going through the motions of pretending they're going for anything other than no deal


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 12:42 pm
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Pint sized piss pot lays down the law to police

Yep, i can really see this working well for the government, setting targets for the police that will not be met without regard as to why such crimes are being committed (social/austerity/local government cutbacks to much needed services aside) to courts and the cps/probation/legal aid and prison service that can't cope with the existing load due to budgetary cutbacks over the previous 10 years of Tory government.

Who'd have thought that the solution to solve crime in our country was so simple?, how long before we get an announcement of a new department who discover and punish thoughtcrime, personal and political thoughts unapproved by the government. The Thinkpol department will use criminal psychology and omnipresent surveilance via informers, cameras, and microphones, to search for and find, monitor and arrest all citizens of Great Britain who would commit thoughtcrime in challenge to the status quo authority of the Tory Party and the cult of Boris

There must be "no excuses" for not cutting crime, Home Secretary Priti Patel has told senior police officers. The home secretary added she would be "unapologetic" about holding police to account.

Welcome to our new overlords.......


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 1:39 pm
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Something to look forward to once they/we are 'free from the shackles' of European Human Rights legislation.

The delightful Priti supports the death penalty as well, so I think we can guess whats coming next...


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 1:51 pm
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Who needs funding and effective legislation from the government, when some tough talking is just as effective.

Spoiler
is is not as effective

Am I talking about the Home Secretary specifically, or the Trade negotiations, or the new border measures, or customs procedures, or any/all of the areas of competency that the government is “taking back control” of? You decide.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 2:35 pm
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a completely shitty stick for all. Equality!

Equaliturd, you might say.

setting targets for the police that will not be met without regard as to why such crimes are being committed

Small minded right wing nimby nobbers don't really care about doing anything wacky like fixing the causes of crime, they just want to hear about criminals being battered to death.

I predict tractor production will be up the fishing catch is increasing year on year crime will be reduced in line with the demands.

After all, where there is a system, someone will game it. Even if that someone is the police, because they are forced to.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 3:28 pm
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After all, where there is a system, someone will game it

In the early 2010s Kent police were getting criminals to own up to unsolved crimes to improve their clear up rates.


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 3:48 pm
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Something good about brexit..

https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farm-policy/defra-confirms-reductions-in-support-for-farmers


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 6:00 pm
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this is the same tories that said the increase in crime was nothing to do with losing 20 000 police officers?


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 6:07 pm
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Tories ignored flood advice


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 6:14 pm
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this is the same tories that said the increase in crime was nothing to do with losing 20 000 police officers?

No that was the other Tories apparently 🙂


 
Posted : 26/02/2020 6:18 pm
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So no surprises from the announcement of the UK's negotiating position. Looks like they can't even be bothered to hang around until the end of the year before the massive rupture with the EU and plunging us into chaos.

UK says it will consider walking away from Brexit talks in June

Boris Johnson is asking the EU for a Canada-style trade deal but will consider whether to walk away from talks in June and prepare for an “orderly” exit from the transition period.

Setting out its negotiating mandate for EU talks, Downing Street said it wanted “regulatory freedom” from the EU and would not accept any role for the European court of justice (ECJ) in dispute resolution mechanisms.

A few years ago I never thought I'd see a UK government behave in such a casually reckless manner. Nowadays, given the nut-jobs at the wheel, I expect nothing else


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 11:28 am
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pounds dropped nearly 1% on the release of the governments position


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 11:36 am
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If you look at the governments demands its just pure cakism, that they know full-well the EU will never agree too.

It just confirms whats been depressingly obvious for some time, that they intend to crash us out with no deal, no matter what damage that will do to the economy


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 11:40 am
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I assume that everyone else is assuming that it’ll be no deal, or a minimal deal to be built on later, slowly. How exactly anyone involved in the seafood industry (to pick a non-random example) is supposed to prepare for this eventuality, I have no idea.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 11:45 am
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Ladies and gentlemen… I may have found a positive to Brexit (if you squint hard enough, and don’t think about what it means for the private sector)…

https://twitter.com/johnjcrace/status/1232990494025814018?s=21


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 12:28 pm
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-withdrawal-trade-bill-eu-heathrow-labour-leadership-latest-a9362441.html

Boris Johnson is ready to walk away from trade talks with the EU ​if progress is not made by June – then prepare the UK for a no-deal scenario at the end of 2020, according to a government document published today.

The prime minister is also set to rip up a key part of the Brexit deal already agreed with Brussels. Mr Johnson is said to believe the Tory election win means he is no longer bound by the political declaration attached to the withdrawal agreement.

[EDIT: - sorry, broadly the same story as linked above.]


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 12:44 pm
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There's a blog version of the Twitter thread Klunk posted earlier, it has a preamble explanation and it's a bit easier to read if anyone's interested.

https://davidallengreen.com/2020/02/the-moral-hazard-of-the-united-kingdom-casually-breaching-the-political-declaration/


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 12:50 pm
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Perfidious albion


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 2:44 pm
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But won't recruiting and training 50,000 extra customs officers (which wouldn't be required if it wasn't for Brexshit) put a dent in the £350m extra per week for the NHS?

C'mon guys, it'll be the unicorns next... don't let me down.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:01 pm
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Seeing as it looks like Joris Bohnson is now planning on renaging on the withdrawal agreement, then stomping out of negotiations, at what point do we officially become a rogue state?


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:15 pm
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Probably when you have nuclear weapons.

Luckily the UK ones are controlled (at least in part) by the US.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:24 pm
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I'm beginning to suspect that some lies were told.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:42 pm
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So the hard Brexit just becomes a little more likely ... “Post-Brexit talks: UK prepared to walk away in June if no progress” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51650961

I can’t understand how government doesn’t understand that they’re about to make it super difficult for any UK business that trades with the EU. They’ll potentially have to work to a ‘GB Standard’ and an ‘EU Standard’ and face all the checks and scrutiny as a consequence.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:48 pm
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Boris has set the tone with "f*** business".

They do not, repeat, do not, care.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:54 pm
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They’ll potentially have to work to a ‘GB Standard’ and an ‘EU Standard’ and face all the checks and scrutiny as a consequence.

It’s more likely that we’ll just work to one set of standards, set mostly by the EU, but still have to have twice the checks and scrutiny for no good reason other than UK English political willy waving, and making the UK market sweet for the USA to exploit without having to satisfy any standards but their own. The big exception is employment… rights will be eroded by new employer/employee relationships that have weaker and weaker protection in UK law, you can bet your job on that.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:56 pm
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they’re about to make it super difficult for any UK business that trades with the EU

Deliberately tanking the pound to offset the tariffs and red tape.

Win, er, um, win....


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 3:57 pm
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https://twitter.com/stevepeers/status/1233086907942391810?s=21

Who needs International patents, enforceable across the continent and beyond, when you can have good ole British patents? Local patents for locals people.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 6:07 pm
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Government memo leaked to Huffington telling all government ministers that the words "Brexit" and "No deal" are banned.

I smell Dom Cum.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 10:46 pm
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Poops - I thought that was generally accepted and understood albeit no hard evidence until Huffpo.
As for Dom Cum, that's something I wouldn't wish to smell.


 
Posted : 27/02/2020 10:51 pm
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Erasmus?


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 8:11 am
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Government memo leaked to Huffington telling all government ministers that the words “Brexit” and “No deal” are banned.

Theresa Villiers was taken apart by Emma Barnett on Five Live yesterday for continuing to refer to an 'Australian Style' trade deal. She was repeatedly told to stop referring to it as that, as it was clearly just 'no deal' with a different name and they should stop treating us all like idiots

But then, why would they? It seems to have worked pretty well so far.

There surely can't be any doubt now that 'no deal' is the desired destination as far as this bunch of lunatics are concerned. They're barely even pretending otherwise now. Looks like we're all in for the full on Disaster Capitalism experience


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 9:30 am
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will the corona virus trigger the next global recession at the same time Britain throws it self off the cliff with a no deal.....feels like a perfect storm brewing ....Investment money will dry up, Business go bust,, and no safety net left...

Am i seeing the worst or is this the likely outcome?


 
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50,000 new customs staff won't come cheap, especially as many will need to be vets for phytosanitary checks, immigrants the Tories will need lots of immigrants to help them administer all the red tape they're creating, oh the lols!

So which will cost the UK more, coronovirus pandemic & the NHS at breaking point or Brexit? The 2 together seem like a perfect storm (speaking of which you can add the flooding to the list of plagues we've invited upon ourselves)


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 9:59 am
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Am i seeing the worst or is this the likely outcome?

Its Disaster Capitalism. They need to create a crisis in order to use the resulting chaos to push through legislation that under normal circumstances they wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of getting through parliament. They want to tear up existing EU-based legislation on workers rights, environmental standards, food hygeine standards and any regulation on finance and the predatory businesses owned by their mates. They will use the upcoming self-created financial shitstorm to do it, as well as putting the NHS up for sale and slashing the welfare state.

Expect a stony faced Joris Bohnson and his minions as they stand in front of TV cameras starting a lot of statements wit the words 'we have no option but to....' before announcing some huge piece of legislation that will take a sledgehammer to the status quo

Massively aiding them in this, hence the newly shortened timescale of walking away in June, is the fact that there isn't an opposition party at the moment. In fact, you could argue that there hasn't been for a good few years now


 
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And, add in the trade war coming after Trump wins his second term… oh, and the diminishment of UK education, especially science and languages (see my post above)… and I wouldn’t want to be stuck in Little Britain… oh, hang on… damn.


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 10:01 am
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One of the punters at work gets the express. Headline today was ( I paraphrase)
" good old Boris threatens the EU with "no deal""

*bangs head on the floor*


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 6:15 pm
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Theresa Villiers was taken apart by Emma Barnett on Five Live yesterday for continuing to refer to an ‘Australian Style’ trade deal. She was repeatedly told to stop referring to it as that, as it was clearly just ‘no deal’ with a different name and they should stop treating us all like idiots

If only - if only - there'd been more of that the last few years. I hold the media largely to blame for not holding the bullshitters now in charge to account.


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 6:19 pm
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https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1233013751227572224?s=20

Was quite amusing, you could see her face express the words WTF


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 6:23 pm
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The new euphemism is "non negotiated outcome" I understand.


 
Posted : 28/02/2020 7:14 pm
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Something good about brexit..

Have you thought this through? Rocketing food costs, secondary rural economy collapse, dependance on foreign powers for imported food with unregulated intesive, dubvious chemicals and high carbon footprint. Best case corporate super-farm monopolies turning the contryside into factories, bulldozing the woods and hedgerows, monoculturing to maximise profits.

I guess not.


 
Posted : 29/02/2020 12:09 am
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Hmmm, my work contract is coming to an end soon - might get one of these customs jobs! Wee Brexit bonus of pilfering illegal fags and booze, bringing bike parts and guitars into the country tax free and extra pennies by becoming an inside man for a crime gang a la The Departed!


 
Posted : 29/02/2020 6:01 am
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Worth reading this thread about why in government this Vote Leave team could well be setting things up for the No Deal outcome they claimed was Project Fear back in 2016:

https://twitter.com/davidgauke/status/1233670974308061184?s=21
https://twitter.com/davidgauke/status/1233672496811069443?s=21


 
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(Reuters) - Britain is preparing to reject EU demands to guarantee that the country will continue to be bound by European human rights laws once the UK becomes fully independent, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

We don’t want no stinking rights.


 
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