Yeah there's a big difference between a poll giving Labour a 2% lead and one giving them an 11% lead.
I'm not sure why such a difference when both were carried out about the same time. I believe that disaffected Tory voters were creating issues for pollsters by not revealing who they would vote for instead.
I would be suspicious of methodology of the 11% Labour lead one as there has only been one other poll in the last couple of months which put Labour on a double digit lead, and that one was also by Savanta and it was also 11%
The nicotine-stained man-frog is presently on Newscast saying that he’s ‘mobilising’ to get the UK out of the ECHR
Fair play to Victoria Derbyshire for calling out his bullshit
He’s worried that Boris wasn’t committed to Brexit and was only using it as a piece of political opportunism
Surely not?
Pot kettle
From the Beeb:
The Liberal Democrats believe they have won the by-election in Devon.
Blimey, let's hope so!👍
Worth staying up for and now feeling like crap. Well done Labour, fantastic job Lib Dems! Particularly nice to see that smug Tory candidate for the Devon seat get wiped aside!😆
There is hope.😁 If tactical voting/ unofficial "coalitions" are what it takes, count me in.
Boris, enough, how sod off and take your conservative party UKIP Party with you.
Boris, enough, how sod off and take your [s]conservative party[/s] UKIP Party with you.
Annoyingly, he's safe for the moment. The backbenchers might start plotting a bit, especially with him out of the country for a week (strategically hiding...) but the VONC stuff is safe cos he won the last one and short of a change in the rules, they can't hold another VONC for a year.
But it does put a lot of pressure on him. See what BS and blister he comes up with this time.
Delivering on Brexit, best employment ever yadda yadda whiff whaff....
Well.....that's cheered me right up
Jacob Rees Mogg's North East Somerset seat is one of the four 'at high risk' seats
As has this. The sooner this ****ing clown is shown the door, the better. I really can't understand why on earth anyone would vote for him to represent them
Well. That’s the first good news we’ve had for quite some time. Like a pair of sweetcorn kernels in the steaming bucket of shit that uk politics really is.
Oliver Dowden has quit as apparently "someone must take responsibility". Or has been told to.
Surely this must be the end?
I’ve been saying that since Donald Trump mocked the disabled reporter. And two impeachments and partygate and Jennifer Arcuri, and and and. But I keep being surprised so I have no faith that he’ll go.
Still, this is a good day for sanity.
Fewer Tory perverts on a Friday clears the morning air.
They do seem to fall like this.
The Tory candidate in Tiverton did seem particularly awful which probably didn't help. The q&a I saw with her looked like a comediene parodying thick grasping tory of the worst kind, a sort of younger Nad type of thing.
Haven't seen the turn out figures, need to see how many Tory voters actually voted against and how many just didn't turn out.
Shows how effective unofficial pacts can be, of course.
Turnout was down 24 to 40% in Wakefield &
52%, down 20 in Tiverton
So pretty standard for a by election but makes it difficult to really judge what it means
Interestingly the pollsters & pundits got the Wakefield results pretty accurate, but everyone understimated how bad it was for Tories in Tiverton
Especially if you consider that the MP there was 'only' looking at porn V compared to ex wakeyMP
But it does put a lot of pressure on him. See what BS and blister he comes up with this time.
Delivering on Brexit, best employment ever yadda yadda whiff whaff….
You'd hope it shows that lurching to the right on Rwanda, ECHR etc isn't working and that he needs to ditch them, instead I reckon he'll double down
52% turnout for a by-election is notable but a 30% swing is exceptional, party chairman resigning is priceless. They really didn’t want the conservatives and came out to make sure. And more than 50% of votes cast for the LDs. Must read well for a general election. The south west returning to its liberal roots.
Results
Richard Foord (LD) 22,537 (52.91%, +38.14%)
Helen Hurford (Con) 16,393 (38.49%, -21.72%)
Liz Pole (Lab) 1,562 (3.67%, -15.88%)
Gill Westcott (Green) 1,064 (2.50%, -1.34%)LD maj 6,144 (14.43%)
29.93% swing Con to LD
Electorate 81,661; Turnout 42,591 (52.16%)
2019 Con maj 24,239
That is a pretty awful result for the Lib Dems. I just watched Helen Hurford defending Boris, just dreadful, dreadful - how was there *anyone* who voted for her?
Incredibly satisfying news this morning!
instead I reckon he’ll double down
Yup
We could probably have a little desperation policy bingo in fact. Bring back pounds, shillings and pence perhaps?
Apparently Dowden was due on the the morning media rounds but no minister stepping up to replace him
We could probably have a little desperation policy bingo in fact. Bring back pounds, shillings and pence perhaps?
Only if he can privatise the Mint and let some 'suitable' chaps run it...
That is a pretty awful result for the Lib Dems.
It is?
Dowden ran off with the day's brief. leaving Raab to write his own.
the tories have nailed their flag to the johnson mast and going to go down with all hands
Notable that dowden said ‘someone’ must take responsibility now he’s jacked is he that someone? letting bojo off the hook yet again overall a good result😁
Has Carrie got the tory chairperson job yet?
We won’t see her in public for a while. She’ll be in the fridge, hiding away.
A swing to the Libdems in a by-election is a warning, not an outright rejection.
The Wakefield result is a win for Labour, but not a landslide, Boris is very obviously damaging the Tories, but if he were to go tomorrow, I reckon their odds would still improve at the next GE...
Wouldn't at all be surprised to see an RMT strike resolution over the weekend, with Boris allowing a 7% rise, in attempt to rise his popularity out of the deepest cess pit.
Haven’t read bruneep’s link but while it’s enjoyable to see Dowden resign for just what it symbolises, it’s worth remembering what a pernicious **** he is. Dorries, as culture secretary, is useless and I’d rather see competence over that any day, everyone knows she’s just bit crazy and very few take her seriously. Dowden was a lot more damaging in his role. Properly scary at times in the levels to which he’d sink waging the anti-woke (forgive me, couldn’t think of anything else) culture war. He’s pissing off now as I guess he knows Johnson’s days are numbered, but he’ll be back.
Only if he can privatise the Mint and let some ‘suitable’ chaps run it…
Quite
A swing to the Libdems in a by-election is a warning, not an outright rejection.
The Wakefield result is a win for Labour, but not a landslide, Boris is very obviously damaging the Tories, but if he were to go tomorrow, I reckon their odds would still improve at the next GE…
A sensible perspective I think. Boris is the problem, not the Tory policies, is how many will see it.
Just came on here to say this:
"Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha".
There will be a queue of Tory MPs to stab the power-crazed maniac in the back at this point.
....and the Tories voted to keep the toxic turd for another year.
Every scumbag mp is going to get a massive skidmark right up their back.
All Tories are ****s.
Woke up to some excellent news, Tiverton isn't Tory for the first time in 99 years. Wakefield is now a Labour constituency and the odious toad Oliver Dowden has quit.
Anyone who saw me in my car driving to work would've seen me laughing hysterically as I listened to Dominic Raab flailing around being interviewed for Radio 4. There is no plan beyond a steady slide towards authoritarianism and global irrelevance.
A sensible perspective I think. Boris is the problem, not the Tory policies, is how many will see it.
They have policies?
Yeah, Raab was not very good (is he ever?) On R4
They have policies?
I wrote to grayling saying shitti Patel should execute refugees on Ant and Dec to revive their fortunes.
They have policies?
Stay in power at all costs
Asset strip the UK for everything it has
Get rich quick
**** the poor
Much like when Blackadder describes the MP Sir Talbot Buxomly:
[i]Well, according to `Who's Who', his interests include flogging servants, shooting poor people, and the extension of slavery to anyone who hasn't got a knighthood.[/i]
and Prince George replies: Excellent - sensible policies for a happier Britain!
I’m all up for ‘anyone but a Tory’ voting, but I do have a nagging doubt that the Lib Dems would jump into a coalition with the tories again at the first sniff of some power and influence. However, a bit like Tiverton, it’s the only hope of getting the Tory out. (West Devon and Torridge)
Surely this must be the end?
Not a chance. This is just something else to throw into the mix, along with all the rest of it. He is completely devoid of shame and has no interest in anything other than himself and his perceived entitlement to be PM
Boris Johnson will be thinking only one thing this morning. "They can't have another vote of no confidence in me for another twelve months". Nothing else will even register with him.
He's going to take the whole ship and crew down with him. Which would be great if that was just the Tory party, but unfortunately we're all on board with them
They have policies?
Yep:
There is no plan beyond a steady slide towards authoritarianism
As in:
I'm seeing reports on Twitter that the Conservative candidate for Tiverton barricaded herself into a room during the count before storming off once the result was announced.
It's pretty obvious that Helen Hurford has zero people skills. Her career is a little murky too, I can't quite figure out whether she's a former school head or the manager of a nail bar.
Either way, the Tories are forced into scraping the bottom of the candidate barrel.
