How on earth did they convince half the electorate that brexit was a good Idea?
They didnt.
The media did by choosing carefully chosen cheerleaders and refusing to question them.
Johnsons breakdown this week when Coates dared to challenge him about anything other than the happy path demonstrates this perfectly. The "golden rule" is apparently if you cant say anything nice dont say anything.
Despite waffle otherwise in reality very few of us have ever met our local mps or anyone more senior and so we are completely reliant on what image the media chooses to provide to us. Whether that is positive going lets quote them without question, negative with lets quote them in a misleading fashion or simply ignoring them to allow the simpleminded to go "ohhh why didnt they speak out about x" its still the pattern dark or otherwise we see.
Well until things are so badly messed up we notice without the medias help.
According to the Guardian, Ian Duncan Smith being lined-up to replace Frosty - so we’re sending an intellectual lightweight to do Boris’ bidding - the EU must be quaking in their boots
Great quote from ‘the EU’ – when the temperature rises, frost melts.
The oven-ready deal has been de-Frosted.
Ian Duncan-Smith?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The oven-ready deal has been de-Frosted.
Very good.
What a feeble flounce. Send your boss a resignation letter saying how much you fundamentally disagree with the direction he is taking the nation and the covid measures being put in right now, but then be persuaded to hang on a few more weeks, presumably because BJ could not handle any more immediate bad news.
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Lord Frost turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Lord Frost
so we’re sending another intellectual lightweight to do Boris’ bidding
FIFY
I’m torn , now that the total ****ing idiots hate Dumbojoi I feel dirty agreeing with them and am now thinking I should like him.
The erg loons getting what they want is a dangerous thing. Now hoping he stays in the job for a while while they tear each other apart all over again. Not that it worked out well last time…
The use of WhatsApp… is that an approved app for the discussion of government business? What with the Patriot and CLOUD acts and data being stored in the US…
Asking for a friend. Would hate to see the ICO looking into this.
Willard. Exactly what I was thinking.
According to the Guardian, Ian Duncan Smith being lined-up to replace Frosty
… and the utter humiliation of Brexit Britains stupidity will be there for all the world to see
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
How are these people MPs?
That WhatsApp chat is hilarious. It's all a bit Handforth Parish Council.
It could also be viewed as a bit scary. These people are running the country. There's been debate for a long time around who will replace Johnson when the inevitable happens, but given that he's replaced the entire cabinet with shouty and extreme brexity types based on those qualifications alone, the question is, can it ever return to anything resembling what it formerly was? I'm genuinely a bit frightened about what comes next.
@binners
I think you're underestimating the quiet man of British politics there.
The fact they call me Frosty just makes me think of;
@ThePilot +1
IDS has never struck me as particularly stupid by Tory standards (obviously it's a fairly low bar with the current cabinet!)
Evil and barely able to hide his utter contempt for poor people yes, but not thick.
the daily fail are hinting at further Allegra tapes doing the rounds relating to Johnsons private life.
IDS has never struck me as particularly stupid by Tory standards
Yes, he's a genius negotiator:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurasilver/our-policy-is-having-our-cake-and-eating-it
@Tom-B I was joking to be honest.
It's what he told his fellow Tories before they unceremoniously dumped him as party leader.
I'm sure he's not thick but I can't see him, or anyone for that matter, making a success of these Brexit negotiations. Unless it's Dr Who and a time machine.
@ThePilot +1
I took ThePilot's post to be a pisstake of a cringe worthy comment IDS once made rather than a recognition of his intellectual capabilities.
Edit : As pointed out above!
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
I really must stop drinking coffee whilst reading STW threads...
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
No shame in that. Did you never watch 'The Adventure Game'?
If only it could end with him being hurled into a galactic void?
If only it could end with him being hurled into a galactic void?
Sent to represent a constituency in the north of England? Steady on.
He got a bit confused and claimed his languages course in Padua was a degree, bless him.
Ah right, I missed both that IDS quote, and the gist of your post @ThePilot.
If we're using the ability to sort out Brexit as a mark of intelligence though, then a can't help but feel that most are going to come up short!
If we’re using the ability to sort out Brexit as a mark of intelligence though, then a can’t help but feel that most are going to come up short!
I would say using the belief that Brexit can be “sorted out”, and to Britain’s advantage is a useful mark of intelligence. IDS believes both, but can achieve neither.
I used to work with people who knew him when he was in sales at GEC, their opinion of him wasn’t high.
They are all under the misconception that there's anything to negotiate. They signed the deal. It's now just a minster of hot air and provocative bollocks to renege on the deal and then back down when the EU gets serious about applying it. Thus maximising bad will.
the daily fail are hinting at further Allegra tapes doing the rounds relating to Johnsons private life.
Bit disappointed that these have t appeared as yet.
Mr sparkle, undoubtedly there is more to come but this is being managed to cause maximum discomfort to johnson.
Don't expect a massive bundle of embarrassing stories landing with a thud.
It'll be like water dripping on a stone and gradually wearing it away; slow, steady, inexorable.
How much humiliation will johnson take before he says...I'm off?
He knows the knives are being sharpened.
I expect him not to walk away but to cling on desperately
Mr sparkle, undoubtedly there is more to come but this is being managed to cause maximum discomfort to johnson.
Don’t expect a massive bundle of embarrassing stories landing with a thud
Oh yes, I appreciate that. It’s just that they seem to usually arrive at weekend.
There was a tory MP quoted after the by election loss saying that Johnson was 'on notice' and that 'every day had to be better than the last'
Its been 3 days and there's been a disaster every day
I do wonder if anyone will want the job right now tbh, it's such a poisoned chalice:
covid
Brexit
Inflation & cost of living crisis....
I2 years b4 an election means their initial popularity bounce could well have faded
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1472625426627543042?t=i2vkvXt8gQa3jzeA_6nu5w&s=19
Smart move, the Tories needing a brexit secretary when they'd 'got brexit done' was always going to a problem going into the next election
What it means for her leadership plans though?
I do wonder if anyone will want the job right now tbh, it’s such a poisoned chalice:
covid
Brexit
Inflation & cost of living crisis….
The funny thing is that no matter how bad things are (and things have to be pretty bad to have reached the point of a leadership challenge in the first place), there never seems to be a shortage of willing candidates who all seem to assume that they have some magical power to sort everything out.
Not sure if politics in general just seems to reward those who haven't really had to fight that hard to get where they are and therefore assume that they got there by being some kind of genius (as opposed to having the right parents and connections via Eton)? It does seem to find those who think they're amazing and there's enough institutionalised corruption that people can sort of fail upwards - I guess the idea is to promote people to a point where they can be left harmlessly in charge of a desk somewhere while the minions who actually know what to do get on and do it. Shame it never seems to work out that way. I think that most of life goes on in spite of Government rather than because of it...
Sweet baby Jesus and the wee donkey, it’s Liz Truss!!
So just as frosty was showing signs of thawing we get Truss. Either she hands out 69 more fishing licences pronto or she be the one dealing with the first sanctions.
The EU must be quaking in their boots
As for her leadership aspirations - IMO this is to nobble her - she will not come out of this looking good to anyone.
IMO this is to nobble her – she will not come out of this looking good to anyone
That was my first thought, too, TJ
Agree too on TJ’s observation but why on earth would she agree?! Is she that deluded? Beggars belief. God, I despise Brexit.
we are in safe hands
https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1435891877174300675
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1472634381147721750
why on earth would she agree?! Is she that deluded?
deluded is my guess. thinks she will sort it all out in a year and be back as the hero next year to take over the leadership.
So while she's sorting out our relationship with the EU who's going to continue her fantastic work putting together amazing trade deals with non-EU partners?
Bit disappointed that these have t appeared as yet.
You just had to be patient
