http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/31/andy-carroll-liverpool-newcastle-transfer
Nothing definite in that story though Loddrik.
It will more than likely go though I imagine.
I think that Chelsea are taking a huge risk signing Torres for that amount of money given his injury record in recent seasons - good bit of business.
If Carrol comes in and plays alongside Suarez and they do well then that's even better business.
Just this second sky sports news says Newcastle has definitely 'reluctantly' accepted liverpools offer for Carroll in the last few minutes.
I was hoping they would let Chelsea buy Torres then unplug the phone leaving Liverpool .......................
Sky sports news - Charlie Adam in car on way to Liverpool.
1726: BREAKING NEWS: LIVERPOOL ANNOUNCE THEY HAVE AGREED A FEE FOR NEWCASTLE STRIKER ANDY CARROLL
OOOOH wonder how much?
£30mil was crazy, £35mil was ridiculous so i'm guessing it has to be something utterly unbeleivable!
Just to put things into perspective...well....relatively speaking of course.
5.33pm: More on the Fenway purchase of Carroll from Bobby Otter from the University of Chicago: "Actually you shouldn't be surprised by the Andy Carroll signing/offer/whatever it is right now. The Fenway guys just spent $142m on a left-fielder (Carl Crawford) over the next seven years and are going to resign a first baseman (Adrian Gonzalez) for probably about the same amount of money. So $56m for a young striker is next to nothing for these guys." Fair point, Bobby. Shall we leave Newcastle and Liverpool and Chelsea alone for a bit and look elsewhere?
You've gotta love the way the plastic scousers on here are trying to put any kind of positive spin on what is essentially a :-
Carroll plus £15m for Torres deal.
You lot think Dalglish is some kind of saviour ????????????
The worst deal in Prem history I reckon.
THey could get Andy Murray for less. The number of times he hits the net would make it a good investment.
(Apologies to random tweeter/twit)
lets hope ashley does the right thing.....
although i watched carroll's interview on football focus a few weeks ago and he was gushing about the love of NUFC, the no.9 shirt, etc...........
EVERYBODY has a price..........
EVERYBODY has a price..........
With this in mind, I would like to say I am available for the bargain price of £3m.
Does this then mean the Newcastle Uniteds don't have a main kicker anymore?
You've gotta love the way the plastic scousers on here are trying to put any kind of positive spin on what is essentially a :-Carroll plus £15m for Torres deal.
Um...... where?
Jamie, that baseball reference is for wages though, not a transfer fee, so it isn't comparable.
Carroll is the most overrated player in the Premiership. I think Kenny has lost it a bit.
Newcastle/Ashley will take the money and run.....laughing.
He's injured, regularly in bother with polis, has an ego the size of a large thing and is a bit of a tosser to boot.
Good luck Liverpoool!
regularly in bother with polis, has an ego the size of a large thing and is a bit of a tosser to boot.Good luck Liverpoool!
He should fit right in.
Um...... where?
Here for starters
I think that Chelsea are taking a huge risk signing Torres for that amount of money given his injury record in recent seasons - good bit of business.If Carrol comes in and plays alongside Suarez and they do well then that's even better business
They should buy Peter Crouch back. I'm sure 'arry would be amenable to a deal.
Underrated that bloke, just cos he looks a bit funny.
The worst deal in Prem history I reckon.
Really. THE worst? Are you sure?
Name a worserer piece and see if you can change my mind.
Owen Hargreaves to Man U?
Not that he is a bad player, by any stretch, just he has hardly played due to his appalling injury record.
Veron, also to united?
Francis Jeffers to Arsenal?
That bloke that was a cousin of George Weah, signed sight unseen and was utter crap.
that's just bad luck, not bad business from the start.
Sorry, bunged in a few other possibles in an edit...
Take your point on Hargreaves. Was he injury prone before he signed?
This has to be the winner:
George Weah's "[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Dia ]"cousin"[/url]":
The Premiership has just jumped the shark.
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Name a worserer piece and see if you can change my mind
John Utaka to Pompey for £8m on wages of £30k a week.
Name a worserer piece and see if you can change my mind
Shevchenko to Chelsea ?
No need to put a positive spin on Carroll. He is a cracking prospect who should develop into a serious cf. Yes the fee is a little high but if we hadn't paid it, make no mistake someone else would have. As for having an attitude problem, he is young and will mature, I had a shocking attitude in my early 20s, but you grow up...
If you look at the idiot man city bought in, balotelli, Carroll looks like a safe bet. Carroll will likely be englands no 1 striker in the coming years without doubt. (though I cannot stand England)
El Haj Diouf to all the clubs he's been to - complete tosser!
Kenny Dalglish plays no part in the transfer dealings at Liverpool FC. It's not part of his remit as caretaker manager.
+1 on diouff, one of the buys which heralded houliers demise. An absolute dickhead!!!
Name a worserer piece and see if you can change my mind.
Jonathan Woodgate to anyone ? He is always injured and turned down a loan move to Wolves as he would rather sit o his ass collecting the dosh.
bloody celebrities ... 🙄
I do feel sorry for the toon though and I hope they manage to get someone decent in before the window closes. They are a decent club with good fans, unlike Chelsea, a modest sized club with fickle fans bankrolled by vanity money...
I'd hate to see Newcastle suffer as a result. Crouch is a cracking player if you get him in. I really wish he hadn't left Liverpool.
Ok so far there have been some pretty ropey deals. I could add Bosko Balaban at Villa from bitter experience.
However, none of them compare with the Torres/Carroll thing because :
At the end of the day LFC are paying £35m for Carrol, a player who has played only half a season in the top flight and scored 11 times in the Prem. That in itself would be a catastrophic piece of business. However, for the privelidge of aquiring Carroll and enough cash for a reserve international right back, LFC are losing a striker with the best strike rate in Prem history to a team that they would have aspirations to compete with.
Well former NUFC season ticket holder here - when i heard it at 8 this morning in the car I said do it. 35m rising to £40m we have to take it.
Ashley is trying to get the club in profit and with money in the bank. If he succeeds then I think that we will be one of the only EPL teams in that position. I hate the guy but he knows how to make £.
Hopefully get Crouch in tonight for a loan and sort a few signings in the summer - Tiote, ben arfa etc ready to come back so all not too bad and we have been finding a few good signings recently.
I wish the lad all the best to be honest. He did a cracking job in the last 12 months and the lad is a Geordie through and through. They say he has gone from 25kpw to 90kpw overnight - who can blame the lad.
Of course he isnt worth it but if you want something that someone else has then you need to pay a premium for it.
One thing is certain and that is the bubble is growing and sooner or later it will pop with these mad fees.
Breaking news - the Torres deal is off!!!!!!
Apparently John Terry couldn't agree personal terms with the Spaniards wife!
Here I am! 🙂
Ooh, where to start...
Selling Torres for [i]fifty million English pounds[/i] is a fantastic bit of business, if you ask me. He hasn't played anywhere near his best for nearly two years now. And as Glupton points out, he's injury prone. His heart hasn't been in it for ages. There's no point in keeping a player who isn't motivated, no matter how good he's meant to be. If he had half the spirit and commitment shown by Dirk Kuyt, he'd be incredible. On current form, there are a lot of better strikers around right now.
Could be a massive gamble for both Liverpool and Chelsea. Torres could make a sudden return to his best, bang in 2 goals a game and help Chelsea win the league. Or, he could languish on the bench, suffer a string of niggling injuries, win nowt with Chelsea and trudge off back to Spain.
What's more likely?
£50m is an insane amount of money, and I'd imagine a newly debt-free Liverpool could be significantly boosted by having such funds to spend right now.
Andy Carrol.
£35m+, if it's true, is an insane amount of money for a player who is unproven at top level in Europe and International footie. He is a bit of a liability with his temperament.
BUT: Carrol is the kind of powerful aggressive striker Liverpool havn't had since ooh I don't know when; they've traditionally gone for nippy poachers, although Heskey enjoyed his best spell at Liverpool. I've thought for ages that Liverpool need a Drogba type player; one who can terrorise defences, and batter their way through to score goals. Carrol is undoubtedly talented, but time will tell if he really is the mega-player such a price tag suggests. I'm alarmed Liverpool are apparently going to spend so much on him tbh, but then I don't work at Anfield.
See, the thing is, Torres isn't currently worth anywhere near £50m. He perhaps isn't even worth the £20m or so Benitez payed for him.
So, Liverpool may be getting £30 million more for Torres than he's 'worth', and paying £20 or so perhaps more than Carrol is 'worth'. But football is insane anyway. Apparently, Spuds are lining up Giuseppe Rossi from Villareal. A player not deemed good enough to play for Man U. Chelsea are lining up David Luiz for £20m+.
Charlie Adam.
Liverpool need a player like this, who can deliver balls into the box. They also need that [very nasty swear word] Fergie to keep his big bulbous veiny schnozz out of it; he's only trying to derail that transfer because he knows Debt United won't be spending any big money for a good while.
So, if Torres goes for £50m, then Carrol and Suarez come in for a combined £60m or so, and Adams for what, £6-7m? Factor in the sale of Babel and Liverpool might only be actually 'spending' £10m or so. Which could be some of the most amazing wheeling and dealing ever. What if Suarez and Carrol produce the most devastating partnership in the Premier league?
Of course, with our luck, they'll both break legs or something and be out for a year. 😐
One good bit of news is, Donkchesky has gone on loan to Forest. 😀
what fred said ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Chuff me. Is there a shorter version of the above post?
Bloody read it and learn something you lazy git! Was Rome built in a day??
Simple fact is, that the only way to succeed in football these days is by spending huge amounts of money. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd, Inter and AC Milan, Chelsea. Arsenal have done amazingly well on relatively very little, but haven't won owt in the recent mental spending era. Can't really see them winning owt more than the Carling Cup, unless Wenger does a 'Benitez' and wins the CL...
Man City and to a lesser degree, Spuds, have become stronger simply because of the money they've spent. Chelsea only did well because they spent insane amounts, let's be honest.
Liverpool have to spend to get the best players possible. It's the way the game is these days. There is no other way.
Hadge - that's a cracker 😆
Aldo on 5live now.
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