I’ve been looking at th3 discounted Trek EXe 9.7s at Balfes at the moment and was curious about the range on these?
Can any owners shed some light on it?
Looking at my most recent ride it was 55km with around 900m climbing.
Would the EXe manage this?
I've got the alloy version so slightly heavier but for what it's worth I'll get 40-45km with 1000m on eco and have had 65km with the range extender added.
Is balfes near you ? I am on my 4th motor in about a year and a half of ownership, so if you really want one get it from a shop that is nearby
Is balfes near you ? I am on my 4th motor in about a year and a half of ownership, so if you really want one get it from a shop that is nearby
That’s good to know. I was looking at getting one from a Local Trek store for just that reason. They price match thankfully.
I’m tempted too. Are these bikes any less reliable than anyone else’s?
is that the TQ Motor. I have one one my Mondraker Neat and it's been flawless in about 18 months.Is balfes near you ? I am on my 4th motor in about a year and a half of ownership, so if you really want one get it from a shop that is nearby
Same battery etc. 35 km and 900 m of climbing. Usual range on a day will rinse battery completely.
Looking at my most recent ride it was 55km with around 900m climbing.
Would the EXe manage this?
Easily. It just depends how fast you want to do it.
With the new Amflow bike being announced yesterday I’m now totally undecided between the Fuel EXe and the new Amflow PR.
I don’t really need the relatively massive power of the Amflow and any range issues can be overcome with the discounted range extender at £350 when you buy the Trek from Balfes.
I mentioned above that i have a Mondraker Neat but with the same battery and motor its a fair comparison i thing to the Trek EXe. I am not really sure 55km and 900m of climbing is achievable without a second battery or range extender. You would need to be very careful in how you manage your power.
Motors are so hit and miss eh, i do feel i have been pretty lucky with mine after so many horror stories.Yes , it's got the TQ hpr50
With the new Amflow bike being announced yesterday I’m now totally undecided between the Fuel EXe and the new Amflow PR.
Surely if your considering the just released, brand spanking new Amflow at full RRP you'd be cross shopping with the new Trek fuel EX+ (Or MX+ or LX+) not the older EXE?
I did take a quick look at the new Trek EX+ but they start at about £4.5k which was a bit more than I was wanting to spend.
The Amflow was probably the very top end of what I was willing to spend so need to draw a line somewhere.
I guess another option is to hang fire and see what discounts, if any, the other manufacturers start to offer if the new Avinox powered bikes start affecting their sales.
I just looked up the full spec on the PR.
The only possibly way I'd consider it would be to use the frame for a build using my existing bits. The spec, otherwise, is pretty garbage. Its just a very fancy motor with the cheapest possible bits to make it into a full bike. The weight is horrendous too.
There are literally dozens of other full power e-bikes I'd buy over that, regardless of the motor.
Interesting.
I’m not really up to speed on e-bikes in general so don’t really know what’s good, bad or otherwise.
Any other suggestions up to £4k max?
The new Amflow spec is pretty dire but it’s £4k and new to market so it will sell like hotcakes.
As an Avinox motor’d eBiker, who also had & has a TQ powered bike (Yeti MTe & Fuel+ now) they are very different experiences.
The TQ bike feels just like riding a normal bike on a really good day. It’s (relatively) light at under 19kg & is just a really, really good bike.
For me, full power trail bikes are a bit odd, I want full power & lots of travel to use it like self shuttle machine. But our use cases are all different.
The HPR50 motor wasn’t the most reliable, they see to be a bit hit & miss, but the newer 60 seems to be much better from what I have seen & heard. The smaller battery on the EXe will be the challenge for that ride/elevation. I think you could probably do it in the lower power mode though (just).
The new Amflow spec is pretty dire but it’s £4k and new to market so it will sell like hotcakes.
As an Avinox motor’d eBiker, who also had & has a TQ powered bike (Yeti MTe & Fuel+ now) they are very different experiences.
The TQ bike feels just like riding a normal bike on a really good day. It’s (relatively) light at under 19kg & is just a really, really good bike.
For me, full power trail bikes are a bit odd, I want full power & lots of travel to use it like self shuttle machine. But our use cases are all different.
The HPR50 motor wasn’t the most reliable, they see to be a bit hit & miss, but the newer 60 seems to be much better from what I have seen & heard. The smaller battery on the EXe will be the challenge for that ride/elevation. I think you could probably do it in the lower power mode though (just).
There were some cheap Norco Fluid VLT SX bikes under £4k a while ago now, might be worth a consideration.
I'm on the "old" Amflow, and mostly use the Eco and the blimmin excellent Auto mode.
I recently had a day in the Surrey Hills riding a mix of XC and the "Winch & Plummet" Peaslake trails and got a touch over 37miles with 4378ft of climbing, still with 15% of battery left.
That is exactly why I bought an Eeb. Big days, lots of climbs and fun downs, but still with a feeling in the legs that I'd also been getting some exercise. My local trails are pretty flat, and that's where the vast majority of my rides are ridden - on a Hardtail so when I need the Eeb I can extend the range further.
I have both a TQ HPR50 powered bike and a Bosch CX. (Mondraker Neat and Crafty). As other people have said, the TQ feels just like riding a normal bike, only on your best ever day. I bought the Crafty while my TQ was waiting for a warranty replacement motor. I was certain that I would go back to the TQ as soon as I got it back, due to the light weight, and the nippy, natural feel. However, I’ve been seduced by the endless range of the 800Wh battery. And if I do ride laps of downhill trails, the Turbo mode is great for cruising back up the fire roads. I don’t even have my CX set to the max available power. Getting the Bosch turned down enough has been a challenge. But like most things, you do get used to it.
As others have said, the two are very different experiences. So im not sure how to advise. I have a Range extender for my Neat, and I certainly plan to ride it more in the drier months. In sloppy, horrible conditions, the extra power is useful.
Or something in between TQ and full power, for example a Bosch SX system….
I’ve got a Canyon with the SX system and really like the power delivery. Standard as 400wh but a 250 Range Extender is useful for bigger days.
Also, on the OP you mention stats of a ride that is already quite a big ride. Was that not on an e-bike? Based on what stats I get on my e-bike, that ride would be very easy to complete. You could probably double it if you are already of decent fitness. The longest I’ve done to date, and it was Winter and gloopy, 65km, 1174m climbing. That was with a range extender. I had 18% of (combined) battery left. A quick blast the other night, using eMTB and some boost mode without the RE was 30km, 757m of climb, left with 21% battery. Average speed on that was 19km/h, so batting on, for my usual rate. The Bosch app gives a little more insight, and for that longer ride, seemingly I did 49% of the effort. For that “fast blast” I did 43%.
Those figures are spot on for me, and exactly the level of assistance I wanted from an Eeb. It’s still a good work out, just not as pulverising on the steep valley sides around here.
That’s a good price for that elyte. I looked at that exact one myself but the Canyon I got was a steal (IMO) but I suspect that any e-bike now around £5k that doesn’t have an Avinox motor might be hard to shift.