DJI's bike brand has significantly upped its game when comes to the bike attached its E. As for the motor? Blimey.
So at least now we know what motor the new Atherton bike is getting
Cant decide if I agree with all this power or not. However I am pleased that it’s happening as it might make the rest of the industry sit-up and realise it can’t keep fleecing people paying huge sums of money for products that are now completely it of date
Does make you wonder if Shimano will pull out f the ebike market all together
Amflow PR Carbon: £3,999
Depending on spec, I can see that being a huge seller at that price. Sub-£4k for the AVI motor and battery (with a bike attached).
The new bike is a couple of kilos heavier than the previous model IIRC. That’s a pity, as one of the things that impressed me when I had a fiddle with the lower spec version was how light it was relative to the power of the motor - lighter than my Orbea Rise, with more power.
Only reason I can see for having one of these over what I have already (mine is lighter and has better (I guess) geometry) is to run it in low power modes to get really good battery life. But I'm different to most people who'd get into EMTBing through this type of bike, where power is everything. Stick it in turbo and ride fast til you go home. I understand the appeal, but that's not for me.
Athertons looks like the same price but stunningly clean https://www.pinkbike.com/news/atherton-s170e-ebike-first-ride-avinox-m2s.html Shares in Klana may double this week.
From a position of having never ridden an ebike the only one Ive read about that holds any appeal is the Rallion rs. It’s no heavier than many other big travel bikes and just helps for the climbs. All these 50lb ebikes hold no interest to me as they are too different from what I do now
Who'd be a Chinese dissident when when their military drone manufacturers are making such exciting ebikes, eh?
Amflow PR Carbon: £3,999
Depending on spec, I can see that being a huge seller at that price. Sub-£4k for the AVI motor and battery (with a bike attached).
Yep, that'll do me just fine thanks. Don't need fancy parts with a motor, I'll take the power loss (!) in exchange for the bigger and removable battery. It also seems like the 600wh battery can double up as a range extender! 🫨
I’d tend to agree. While I don’t necessarily see the need for the numbers the Avinox motor produces, and can see more issues with meeting people riding up traditionally downhill trails, that price is going to be hard to beat if you have a £4k ish budget.
All these 50lb ebikes hold no interest to me as they are too different from what I do now
Try to think of ebikes as a different sport, I ride things on mine that I wouldn't even think about trying or simply wouldn't be possible on my Hightower, each to their own I suppose
Athertons looks like the same price but stunningly clean https://www.pinkbike.com/news/atherton-s170e-ebike-first-ride-avinox-m2s.html Shares in Klana may double this week.
that's a keen price. I wonder what what weight it comes in at? smaller battery might offset the frame and part weight penalty for the longer travel bike.
Hmm, quite tempting to click Add to Basket now innit
I have pre-ordered the £4K one. Pension money and curiosity got the better of me.
Hmm, quite tempting to click Add to Basket now innit 😛
I’ve been looking at emtbs recently and if this was available now I’d have ordered one!
It’ll be interesting to see how long until it’s available.
I thought that too. But then I rode a few 21kg/46lb eebs and realised they handle better.
I disagree completely. They don’t ride like a mountain bike that’s for sure, they handle far worse.
I just noticed Bike Tart on the left.. a Premier Partner. Could I have gotten a discount?!! (BTW, they just told me they don't know when the Amflows will be in, probably/maybe end of May)
Who really GAS what other people think about how ebikes "handle"?? I really like how they handle when riding. Not so keen when lifting over gates.
My local bike shop has some sizes of the £6.5k & £9k ones instock. Other sizes & the less expensive ones are expected in May & June.
The Megamo top tube shape looks so much better, but otherwise looks good. I'm confused as to why the fixed PX is more expensive than the removable PR version.
So at least now we know what motor the new Atherton bike is getting
And seeming about a dozen other models released today. Still none that light my fire, esp when combined with the, let’s say shady, areas other divisions of the same company operate.
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter. Surely they should make it impossible to change and use the gps sensor to force the limit based on the legislation where the gps says the bike is
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter. Surely they should make it impossible to change and use the gps sensor to force the limit based on the legislation where the gps says the bike is
I agree. I often defend the POV that e-bikes vs e-motorcycles are different and that e-bikes have their place; mainly from a sustainable transport perspective… but allowing compliance with the regs to be self policed will mess everything up.
We will end up in the same situation as with cars where possibly a majority of people view sticking to speed limits as irritating at best… and mostly it’s a free for all.
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter.
Because then people will buy them, rather than alternatives that can’t be so easily set up to break the law. Relying on users rather than sellers to keep bikes to the regs is a joke. It will result in a race to the bottom where to sell your motor system (and bikes) you have to allow easy/simple overriding of reg limits to stay in the market.
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter. Surely they should make it impossible to change and use the gps sensor to force the limit based on the legislation where the gps says the bike is
It gets my vote and it'll probably be the reason I move away from Specialized/Brose for my next ebike and not go to Bosch
gone from nah its not for me mine is better to ordered 1 in a few minutesHmm, quite tempting to click Add to Basket now innit
I have pre-ordered the £4K one. Pension money and curiosity got the better of me.
All these 50lb ebikes hold no interest to me as they are too different from what I do now
Try to think of ebikes as a different sport, I ride things on mine that I wouldn't even think about trying or simply wouldn't be possible on my Hightower, each to their own I suppose
Out of interest, what would you e-ride that you wouldn't attempt on your Hightower?
According to pinkbike the 1500 watt boost a really uses 2000 watt electrical power. That'll make pretty short work of the battery even in 60 second bursts.
It makes the lower power bike seem even more of a bargain given the higher power has such limited real world use.
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter. Surely they should make it impossible to change and use the gps sensor to force the limit based on the legislation where the gps says the bike is
Because the tech is moving faster than a govt & nation that is obsessed with people on small boats.
I guess whether you like the Amflow depends if you want to ride a bike made by a company that also makes a vacuum cleaner!
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I thought that too. But then I rode a few 21kg/46lb eebs and realised they handle better.
I disagree completely. They don’t ride like a mountain bike that’s for sure, they handle far worse.
Definitely an outlier with that opinion, but you do you 🙂
I have no interest in Amflow as a brand, but that £4k build is going to be a big market disrupter.
I still don’t understand why they are shipped in a state where they are so easy to get round the speed limiter. Surely they should make it impossible to change and use the gps sensor to force the limit based on the legislation where the gps says the bike is
I don't know how or if Amflow do that but the e-bike EN standards cover anti-tampering. OC that requires enforcement, but the standards say if the bike can be adjusted outside of the regs or legislation by the owner w/o access codes or dealer-only tools, w/o fault logging or trace in the system, then the bike spec is outside of the standards. If it is, especially if it's seen as sneaking around those clauses, Trading Standards or the OPSS can act. It won't affect someone who already has a 'chipped' bike but they can stop new sales.
I can see this all ending in tears and a ban , unfortunately making the damn things more reliable isn't sexy for the marketing brigade 🙄🙄🙄
Blimey, just seen in the GMBN video about the bikes - there's a "smart" navigation system on the screen on the bike. Import routes and the app tells you an estimate of how much battery power the route will take. Neil D put a 30km ride in and it says it'll use only 52% battery in turbo mode. Turbo! I think my current bike would do 10 miles in turbo! I mean that's not how I ride, but gives a good guide to the range of these bikes. Awesome.
Why even pretend they are not motorbikes now?
Personally ride what you like, but we are seeing trails round our way getting wrecked way faster than before because of people being able to do so many laps without getting tired.