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[Closed] Training help required please

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I am wanting to do more endurance events over the next few years and need help with developing some form of training plan.

Endurance wise i am ok but have little explosive power for longer climbs (short sharp climbs i am pretty good but have always been a sit and spin for longer up hills)

In the Mucoff 8 yesterday - legs felt good but shoulders, lats, and neck were fatigued.

Any ideas of specific training (off the bike even!!) to help remedy this?


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 8:21 pm
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"explodive power for longer climbs"?


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 8:31 pm
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should read "explosive" - meaning i want to be able to power up longer climbs like fire roads instead of twiddling away


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 8:38 pm
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Have somebody in the know check your bike set up, make sure it is comfortable for climbing.

Another tip for long climbs is to vary on-saddle climbing with off the saddle.

Core work - a nice strong core helps power transfer and supports your back.

And last of all, sorry but there is no replacement for doing the miles, find a nice hilly 6/7 hour training loop, do climbing intervals, go to Spain for a couple of weeks.

Oh yes and the less weight you have to carry up the hills the better, obviously...


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 8:39 pm
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when your out training try and ride a lot of it standing up, even if its just for short distances then a rest then a bit more then a rest, you will find yourself getting better, will really improve your leg strength.


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 8:46 pm
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Powering up long climbs isn't explosive. It's just power - sustainable power. There's also the weight thing if you are wanting to climb fireroads better - it'll pretty much be power/weight ratio that'll decide how fast you climb.

When you say you are OK endurance wise, I'm guessing you mean you can ride for ages, at a fairly low intensity. For getting up the climbs you'll be riding at a much higher intensity, for a smaller period of time - say up to 30 mins. Limiting factors will be things like muscular endurance, lactate clearance, lactate tolerance.

To get better at these, you'll need to stress yourself in these areas - try doing intervals up a steady climb - say 5 mins on, 5 mins rest x 4, at an intensity that isn't all out but fairly close (say 8/10). Then try increasing the length of the interval.

However, there isn't really a simple answer (though I agree with hels suggestion of lots of hilly miles). Try getting a good book and learning from that - I'd recommend the Joe Friel ones.


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 9:10 pm
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i find miles on the road bike help as it is less stop start than training on an mtb .


 
Posted : 12/04/2010 9:15 pm