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Is the threading of responses a thing now? It seems this means they're not always in chronological order for me now.
Response I just posted to a thread just disappeared when the page refreshed.
Brutal. The slow response I understand, but the layout, the colours, the navigation, it's just so bad.
Is the threading of responses a thing now? It seems this means they're not always in chronological order for me now.
Another in the 'really not a fan of that' camp. Keep them as they were or replies get lost, especially if the original post is on another page.
Then don't release it to the public until it's all done ? Take it offline for 2-3 days and actually give people a decent experience when they return that actually does what it's supposed to ?
STW could do that with a significant income loss, paid members not having a service they par for or could release it live and causing a few issues for a short while. Whilst also getting live feedback on the issues.
We just put the maintenance page up there for a short time while we tested a new layout and hunted a slow query. We got some good results. I'll update later this evening.
thought id try a workaround for the nested quote thing on the 'bassists' thread.
i deleted all the extra bumph in the
tag which i thought may be tying it to the original post, so just left with clean quote /quote tags.however, it took around 3 or 4 mins to submit, i refreshed the post and theres no sign of it. yet if i look in the overview page, the bassists post is still some way down the list, BUT, it shows me as having posted just a few mins ago.
I am getting emails for new posts to the bassists thread that I am subscribed to, can't see where to turn them off in my profile settings, might just be me being stupid.
Much quicker even with the ongoing migration, and more functionality by the looks. Some reacquainting but it looks good.
I see someone mentioned the duplicate threads being created a bit further up this page. But there are also lots of duplicate replies in some of the threads. I was responsible for a couple on the pedal axle grease one.
Responding on an android there was no indication that the forum was doing anything with my response after hitting submit, so i pressed submit again (and again potentially) and then got bored and did something else.
Can the forum say something like updating/submitting/sending your response?
Wonder if I'll be able to work the quote function on this version of the forum
Check some of our previous posts
Wonder if I'll be able to work the quote function on this version of the forum
Check some of our previous posts
If I can quote a previous post on laptop I might be tempted to try it on my android phone too
Should we be worried that you've paused the migration and yet the forums are still very slow and posting is remains essentially broken?
Thanks for getting rid of the "stuck" 1st posts for threads.
I thought that was useful, personally. Maybe just render it in a different colour?
As someone who deals in massive (many many terabyte) database migrations all the time, I'm surprised its actually going as well as it is. There are no tools for doing this off the shelf, or if there are they're invariably written for subtly different schemas, rarely handle anything with aplomb (oh you've failed, care to tell me why or where? Nope you're just going to exit with some random error code. $%£kers!) and generally need someone to heavily lubricate things with their own queries and stored procedures. I bet the journey of where you're coming from and where you're going to has been seldom taken, so there'll be little out there to act as a guide. Pretty amazing for such a small team.
Weird paging issue - in the screenshot I hovered over the Last Post link., the URL shows it wants to take me to page 8, but the page numbers show I'm on page 7 of 7. Clicking the link takes me to page 1
Also, the old forum used to produce an error if you tried to post too soon after posting. Is this on the cards?
Hi Mark, well you did ask ‘;~}.
in my account there are various clicks in the header bar
Posts:
none shown
What is a “post”? If not a post on the forum?
Comments:
only ancient ones shown, maybe I’m not grasping what a comment is -
What actually is a “comment” if not a comment on or reply on the forum
Messages:
I have a red dot which seems to indicate a new message but it’s referring to one I received years ago, replied to and even hid so I didn’t keep having to visit just in case there really was a new message.
Forums: “topics started” seems to be the only option. No “comments made”:
I’m sure I’ve started topics since one 2 years ago about ticks
Friends: I did have friends but not now.
Gone:
(a while back but not returned despite “working on it” admin comments) -
the option to see a list of topics I’ve been involved in. (Ideally each just listed once NOT repeated for every comment)
Yeah, I know that went away ages ago. Can it come back please?
Without the ability to revisit new topics I posted or questions I’ve asked and my comments , the forum is a pretty ineffective platform for communication.
is the follow feature working now. Users get an email about a new comment?
thanks
I’m sure it’s quite a task.
I've spotted a few minor niggles, presentational things and personal preferences really, so not priorities and not dealbreakers for me but I thought I'd get them written down in case the inspire tweaks in the future.
- I miss not having the option in the main forum thread list to jump to the last page or the most recent post in a thread. Going to the first page then faffing around with the page dropdown is just that little bit less smooth, especially on threads that have many pages.
- The main forum thread list no longer seems to be sorted by last posts. I find that a bit weird. What is it sorted by?
- There seems to be a lot of whitespace at the top and bottom of each post in a thread, it makes everything feel very spread out and inefficient.
Like I said, all pretty minor things!
I guess you haven't read any of the updates that Mark has put in this thread. Server performance is expected to be slow until they've finished copying over the data, which will take a few days. We're getting this for free, there's no justification to moan.
When you cut over to a completely new platform, you normally parallel run for a period. You set up the new one in a staging environment, and copy the bulk of the data to it, as well as having new data pushed to both the old and new platforms. When you’re happy everything is working on the new platforms, you cut over with minimal or no interruption in service.
And it’s not free. People are either paying in memberships, or paying in ad views.
Posts: none shown
What is a “post”? If not a post on the forum?
Comments: ancient ones shown
What is a “comment” if not a reply on the forum
Messages: I have a red dot which seems to indicate a new message but it’s referring to one I received years ago, replied to and even hid so I didn’t keep having to forget just in case there really was a new message.
Forums: “topics started”:
I’m sure I’ve started topics since one 2 years ago about ticks
Friends: I did have friends but not now.
Gone: (a while back but not returned despite “working on it” admin comments) -
the option to see a list of topics I’ve been involved in. (Ideally each just listed once but repeated fir every comment)
Yeah, I know that went away ages ago. Can it come back please?
Without the ability to revisit new topics I posted or questions I’ve asked and my comments , the forum is a pretty ineffective platform for communication.
first time I tried to post this it took over 2 minutes - the eventually popped up “Singletrack unexpectedly closed the connection”
I dod “save draft” & get a tick - but didn’t see how to rescue that / reload my text.
Wrote a LONG post - first attempt to post “singletrack closedctge connection” after a few mins. 2nd time got “success” after maybe 2 mins but it’s not here.
also got “cannot subscribe”.
I put up a post an hour back, I can’t see it. In my profile it is listed and has 2 replies on it.
oh well, teething issues hopefully..
I’m retyping this. First 2 attempts to post gave me ”singletrack closed the connection”
Feedback:
Posts: none shown
What is a “post”? If not a post on the forum?
Comments: ancient ones shown
What is a “comment” if not a reply on the forum
Messages: I have a red dot which seems to indicate a new message but it’s referring to one I received years ago, replied to and even hid so I didn’t keep having to forget just in case there really was a new message.
Forums: “topics started”:
I’m sure I’ve started topics since one 2 years ago about ticks
Friends:
I did have friends but not now.
Gone:
(a while back but not returned despite “working on it” admin comments) -
the option to see a list of topics I’ve been involved in. (Ideally each just listed once but repeated fir every comment)
Yeah, I know that went away ages ago. Can it come back please?
Without the ability to revisit new topics I posted or questions I’ve asked and my comments , the forum is a pretty ineffective platform for communication.
first time I tried to post this it took over 2 minutes - the eventually popped up “Singletrack unexpectedly closed the connection”
I clicked “save draft” & got a tick - but didn’t see how to rescue that / reload my text.
2
Wrote a LONG post - first attempt to post “singletrack closed the connection” after a few mins. 2nd time got “success” after maybe 2 mins but it’s not here.
also got “cannot subscribe”.
can’t see an upload image icon I am logged in
Neil
Have a good weekend
I think i like it.
My only slight grumble is there seems alot of deadspace between posts.
Big gap at the bottom of a post followed by quite an airy username part.
And no real definition so i am am struggling to konda pick out where the thread content is.
Like it would be alot easier if the actual post backgrounds were one colour and the usernameetc backgrounds were a different colour. Then my brain would read the dark/light bits.
But currently my brain reads a post and then struggles to find the next bit. I mean i genuinely do struggle with stuff like this.
Tldr. My brain does not have the capacity for this.
I've posted in the WRPT twice now. But neither post is showing for me. In the summary at the top, it said last post was by me for a while, and gave the time elapsed since it was posted (which changed, as expected, on refreshing the page), but no posts. Now says last post is by someone else, Tom? But I can only see up to the posts that were there before I first posted.
Tried deleting browser history, no change.
Mobile (Pixel 8) on Chrome.
Looks like there are some threads where you can’t get to the last page. Might be caused by all the double/triple posts messing up post counts? Dunno. Good luck!
My only slight grumble is there seems alot of deadspace between posts.
Big gap at the bottom of a post followed by quite an airy username part.
And no real definition so i am am struggling to konda pick out where the thread content is.
We are with you. There will be an update on Monday that I think will address all that.
luckGood luck!
Works🌞
Im adding replies, and its hanging for a full minute, maybe a bit more, then it does go through and no post/reply is visible.
Click on it, refresh the page and still nothing visible. But if i go to the forum main page(in this case 'Bikes') it shows me im the last poster, but click on it and i cant see my post/reply tacked on the end. So its there but just isnt showing.
I don't think this is user error, but it may well be: I replied to a post here: https://singletrackworld.com/forum/bike-forum/funnest-bike-for-5-foot-kid-2025-used-of-course-4/#post-13529120 and it duplicated my reply several times over several minutes.
Aah..my OCD! Stuff ain’t lining up right (safari,ipadOS 18.3)
On Android phone:
- on STW account deactivate Dark Mode
- in browser make sure you're on Light Mode.
- in Settings for phone make sure you're on Light Mode. This affects your whole phone.
I can now read the site, I've been unable to up till now.
And adding a reply to any thread has taken 2mins of hang time ..
Looks like there are some threads where you can’t get to the last page. Might be caused by all the double/triple posts messing up post counts? Dunno. Good luck!
The old forum used to generate a prompt if you tried to post more than once in a certain time period. Can the new forum software maybe do something similar?
Also, what’s the consensus about nested replies (please can we not)?
I can’t seem to post a reply very well, it hangs for ages when I hit Add Reply. It does seem to add the post if I just refresh the page but it’s hit and miss
IT AUTOMATICALLY JUMPS TO THE NEWEST UNREAD POST!!!! WOO
Doesn't work for me. Windows 10/Firefox. Just takes me to first page and have to use the newest post link to get there which is a pain when everything is so slow to load.
Have we lost the clickable forum list bar at the bottom?
+1 we need to go back without having to go back a page within a topic. Unless I'm missing a link somewhere?
And
My topic list is not by order of last post
Glad I'm not you lol
We are with you. There will be an update on Monday that I think will address all that.
Thanks Mar, i assumed this was just a passing phase. I know some people struggle with things like that way more than me so thought it worth mentioning.
I know I am a bit dense but how do I open the last page on a thread from the overview page?
Currently you can’t but it will be sorted.
IT AUTOMATICALLY JUMPS TO THE NEWEST UNREAD POST!!!! WOO
Doesn't work for me. Windows 10/Firefox. Just takes me to first page and have to use the newest post link to get there which is a pain when everything is so slow to load.
Not working for me either - Win 11 / Brave. Not a deal breaker but still a bit of a PITA.
Hmmmnnn... I clicked quote on Jordan's post above, but it's appeared as an inline reply. Win 11/Brave.
Unbelievably frustrating. Im sure it is for STW as well.
Im trying to post on my ride thread. No idea if stuff has actually posted or not as ut says last post by me 1 min ago but i cannot see the post
This is awful. On this thread click on last post takes me to the first post. No way of getting to page 8 to check my post to see if it posted. Clicking on the page number button the 8 doesnt work.
This is awful. On this thread click on last post takes me to the first post. No way of getting to page 8 to check my post to see if it posted. Clicking on the page number button the 8 doesnt work.
Is the floating side blob necessary? It is very distracting and intrusive.
Does the like button actually do anything? At least for me it does not .
This is awful. On this thread click on last post takes me to the first post. No way of getting to page 8 to check my post to see if it posted. Clicking on the page number button the 8 doesnt work.
I just had to hit "next" page 8 times to get me here.
Come on guys we were told it would be slow as it migrates everything across, we know there will be teething problems.
I don't think whinging at this point is that useful.
Someone has to trawl through this all and pick uot the useful bits.
Atleast be constructive like some people have been and give a clue what you are using. Ie the page number box top right works for me of i clic it i get a list of radio buttons. On android chrome.
My first thought is that its a cluttered and unintuitive mess.
Does the like button actually do anything?
Also - I tried to add another comment on my phone a while ago but it just vanished after a bit of spinny-blue-circle-of-death.
A new one. The icons on the bottom of the page that used to be tiny and barely noticeable, are now massive and totally fill the screen. These are just a few of them, I have to scroll a fair bit to see them all. Google Pixel 7a on Chrome.
I suspect as it is still running slowly, you need patience for the last page to load.
Select the page number from the list of page and it does load that page, no need to hit Next multiple times.
Hi guys, I can't seem to post new topics, it redirects to a 'website not found' sort of page asking me to resubmit information. I'll try and get a screenshot next time..
So I've got:
- disappearing posts. It says I'm last poster on a thread, but my post isn't visible.
- repeated posts on multiple threads from anyone and everyone.
- threads with different layout of posts, through the thread and between threads.
- takes over 2mins to post and even then I get the stalled screen of frustration.
- can't quote a post.
- HUGE icons at the bottom of pages.
Something's up with the forum Overview page. A post I popped up on the Bike Forum, about 10 minutes ago, has been there for a while but it's still not showing on the Overview.
- in browser make sure you're on Light Mode.
- in Settings for phone make sure you're on Light Mode
But why on earth would I want to do that? I want everything in Dark Mode, not just this site.
The offset between post posted and post published seems to be truly random. Sometimes it’s 10 mins, sometimes it’s an hour, sometimes it’s overnight. What’s it doing under the covers? A post should either be committed to the DB or not. Not sit in limbo for some job to complete.
Hello. I can't find a 'search' bar (wanted to find the Sir Chris Hoy thread). Also when I 'like a post, it doesn't work.
...we know there will be teething problems. I don't think whinging at this point is that useful.
Fair comment, but I can't see a post that the forum tells me I posted 6 minutes ago; that is surely more than a teething problem.
The thread hasn't moved up the list to reflect its updated status either
Found a shortcut to recent posts properly ordered.... https://singletrackworld.com/forum/recent/
Or click the sort of layer icon just to the right of the tick icon at the bottom the main forum page
There's some super-sized graphics at the base of this thread. <!-- Font Awesome fontawesome.com -->
Oh no it's somehow got even worse today. Page formatting has changed for me on this thread half way down the page.
I feel it would be worth stopping the migration at this point and seeing if the issues with duplicate posts is resolved because that seems to be the biggest problem at the moment.
And even if stopping the migration does improve it you still have a bug there somewhere - do you do any debouncing or validation that the same post isn't already in the db before committing?
I wanna go back 😭
Ummmmm......
Not having the heart to read all eight pages and as unnecessary duplication seems to be a theme...
- Duplicate posts
- Missing replies
- No means to go straight to the last post on a thread as previously able to
- Dead space
- Weird formatting
- Like reply button not working
I’m wondering if I can post today I’ve been getting stall then “connection dropped”
also where’s the add image button?
& if I save draft where do I access that to try again.
Thx
Hello. I can't find a 'search' bar (wanted to find the Sir Chris Hoy thread).
It's the magnifying glass icon on the right hand side of the forum lists but oddly, you have to click slightly to the right of it, rather than on it, to open the search bar.
It's very slow but seems to be working.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/postid/13158158/
I’m wondering if I can post today I’ve been getting stall then “connection dropped”
also where’s the add image button?
& if I save draft where do I access that to try again.
last attempt (with this above message) I hit a “success” pop after maybe a minute but it’s not appeared.
I think the "jump to last post" thing doesn't work because of the delay from posts being added to being available to view on the forum. E.g. it'll try to jump to the latest post but it isn't there yet so it gives up and jumps to page 1 instead
Just posting to test
OK, so that 'test post' worked fine, which I'm happy with 😀
Around the same time, I switched off dark mode in my account preferences, and it's made things worserer... I'm now getting lots of white text on white background, so I want to re-enable dark mode. But the icon at top right to access my profile has totally disappeared. Any ideas?
Android and Chrome, btw
This any use? https://singletrackworld.com/account/
Around the same time, I switched off dark mode in my account preferences, and it's made things worserer...
I use android/chrome and have no issues whatsoever, lovely white and grey backgrounds with nice black contrast text.
I wonder if it's some kind of conflict with the phone colour scheme? Ive never changed from default settings so I assume I'm using light mode.
I am not seeing an add image icon above the reply field
When I log in and go to my account various options are shown:
Posts: none shown
What is a “post”? If not a post on the forum?
Comments: ancient ones only show
What is a “comment” if not a reply on the forum
Messages: I have a red dot which seems to indicate a new message but it’s referring to one I received years ago, replied to and even hid so I didn’t keep having to forget just in case there really was a new message.
Forums: “topics started”:
I’m sure I’ve started topics since one 2 years ago about ticks
Friends: I did have friends but not now.
Gone:
(a while back but not returned despite “working on it” admin comments) -
the option to see a list of topics I’ve been involved in. (Ideally each just listed once but repeated fir every comment)
Yeah, I know that went away ages ago. Can it come back please?
Without the ability to revisit new topics I posted or questions I’ve asked and my comments , the forum is a pretty ineffective platform for communication.
first time I tried to post this it took over 2 minutes - then eventually the browser popped up “Singletrack unexpectedly closed the connection”
I clicked “save draft” & got a tick "saved" - but when posting faiuled, I didn’t see how to rescue that / reload my text.
2
Wrote a LONG post (above) - first attempt to post “singletrack closed the connection” after a few mins. 2nd time got “success” after maybe 2 mins but it’s not here.
also I got a “cannot subscribe” popup
EDIT - I posted this from a mac [the post action took maybe 2 minutes], I have never managed to post to this forum thread from my iPhone [chrome browser] despite a 25mbit upload speed and, on the phone, eventually seeing "success" and also at the top that my post was the latest - it still did not appear.
My reply posted once, but the connection failed, so I went back and posted my second comment. That seemed to post but neither showed when I refreshed the page. Just back in and my failed post appears to be in twice and my second post is also there (second post done as the first one didn't show but also the connection didn't succeed apparently).
Help, i can't see any of my new posts?