[Closed] Questions for Santa Cruz?

Will the LT2 remain in SC range going forward? (with the Introduction of the butcher)

Why are bikes and components so bloody expensive now

Will they make any 29ers in non-carbon?

is there room for any more 140-160mm bikes out there!!
Can I demo a V10 and nomad this year (I will be gentleish)
How many times can you hammer a heckler dropout straight?
**Serious One**
What makes the single pivot work so well for them pivot location of pedal platform?

Can I have a free sample so's I can do along-term test on it? 😀

Do they think they can make their patent hold water? and how does it over APP anyway? Why no rear Maxles?

If you're talking about the Nomad, (they've) Not found that it has any extensive benefit for a VPP rear triangle.
It works better for bikes with a pivot around the rear axle. Re the Butcher and Nickel - the intended use isn't that kind of bike, but then if they were to do a 7in version, it would probably make sense.

when are they making a carbon Jackal?
'we're not'

carbon 29er hardtail please - light as you can.
'Don't know'

How much will they be (UK prices if poss)? Is there a grease gun provided - like with the VPP2 bikes (BLT2 etc)?
'UK prices will be posted here tonight'

When will my 'kin White XL Chameleon frame be delivered (ordered from LBS in early Feb!) 👿

Are they planning to drop any existing models in view of the new ones?

Whats the next "big thing?", and I mean proper big thing, not marketing led crap. Big things like disc brakes, platform damping meaning bikes bob less etc etc. So what is it ...and how big is this next big thing....

What non SC bike would you buy with your own money to ride & why?

and

Anodising is a cool looking finish and makes so much sense - how come you are dropping it?

Why did they stop making the Blur 4X and do they have any plan for anything similar in the future?

Can we have some more Blur 4xs please?

Tell them I'll have a normal jackal then ;o)

Do they think they can make their patent hold water?

The patent applies to a floating shock design that they're not using - it covers a shock rate change that covers a sine change (so plus to minus, or vice versa) - most linkage driven bikes use a progressive OR regressive rate, not both at once.

There seems a lot of pivots, bearings, nuts and bolts on the APP linkage to me (all in the right place for mud etc from the rear wheel), a Superlight owner, I'm wondering how much testing these new designs get in the real world of mud, water and grit and continual washing that we seem to excel in here in the UK and a lot of other places around the world and not sunny california ... have they been tested elsewhere?

They had 50 inches of rain in Santa Cruz this winter, so they know about riding in the wet...

There are 20 secret test riders around the US and Canada that they use (and it's pretty wet in Vancouver/Whistler) so they reckon they have wet weather testing dialed.

Are they going to introduce more Carbon frames, for example a Carbon Heckler and Superlight?

(slightly more in depth question than one posted on Twitter as was eating a Pizza at the time!)

At the risk of sounding sycophantic, tell them my LTc is absolutely fantastic!

Is the butcher the end of the heckler? Is there a new 4x coming? can the nickle run with 140mm forks? Is the nomad C a direct competitor with the mojo hd or built tougher?

Edit eh Please!!

Given the amount of santa cruz coverage, should the question be should the mag/website be renamed 'Santa Cruz World'

Why are we still using rear QRs? Can we have a better solution please?
Are we likely to see a blur LT with adjustable rear travel a la tracer?

tell them I love mine. 😀

Why are we still using rear QRs? Can we have a better solution please?

agreed, i'd like to see maxle's on the rear become as normal as a 20mm front.

When is the butcher available? Is it before my Yeti ASR5 gets welded up and sent to the UK because if it is...

jimmy, santa cruz site says butcher available june, same time as nickel and nomad carbon.

Any plans for a new Superlight?

Carbon Chameleon DARN IT!

So what are the UK prices on Nickel and Butcher then?

the "new" suspension designs: can the absence of 1 axle & set of bolts (VPP: 2 links, new bikes: 2 links...) really make that much difference to manufacturing costs? Are the new designs a result of trying to increase/maintain VPP as a premium brand i.e. SC selling non-VPP bikes at lower margin in order to gain a bigger market share without diluting the VPP status?

yours, puzzled

Why can I not get hold of a sc hoodie?

superlight carbon?... pleaseeeeee 😉

Why has my SC hoodie shrunk?

Would've really liked an answer on the blur 4x instead of a pointless one about patents 😉 !

"Is the butcher the end of the heckler? Is there a new 4x coming? can the nickle run with 140mm forks? Is the nomad C a direct competitor with the mojo hd or built tougher?"

The Heckler will continue (and no, it won't be coming out in carbon). The Nickel can be run with 120-140mm forks.

The Nomad C is BONKERS tough. I've just been watching one have weights smashed down onto it while being repeatedly hit with a solid steel bar... The Blur LTC was the strongest frame that Santa Cruz had ever made. The Nomad is stronger than that. It's impressive...

There are NO plans for a new, updated 4X. It just wasn't a popular model (despite its cult status) - so they won't be making another one unless 200 of you get together and pay $2500 up front and wait six months. If you do that, then they'll think about it...

Now the pound has totally collapsed against the dollar will Mike please write 500 fewer words in his next column? 🙂

Say hello to Murphy if you get over to Fairfax

will they ever make a carbon bmx?

will they ever do a full page ad showing rob spewing up vpp pivot bearings or something? all made to look like the ad from back in the day. we need a sickening advert in a mountain bike mag!

PRICES please? that Butcher has just thrown my choice of my next FS

A carbon BMX? They don't make an ally one, so I wouldn't have thought so...

UK prices are on the stories now - £1299 for either frame with a Float R shock. £110 extra for an RP23

Mid June...

I guess that's about what I was expecting, price wise. Cheaper would have been nice, but isn't it always. 🙂

Pretty much lifelong Santa Cruz customer here.

Question that you could have put to them from me:-

[u][b]What the ****?[/b][/u]

NICKEL: $1350 with Fox Float R (complete bike pricing expected to start under $2k)

£1299 for either frame with a Float R shock

If they can bring the build in at or under £2K, I reckon they'll kill it.
I'd buy one for the mrs (OK maybe a little for me too!).
C'mon SC, make people happy.

Thanks for the answers Chipps!

Honestly, what next? Polish up a Kinesis frame and stick 'ASSP' on the marketing along with a Santa Cruz sticker?

They are crowding a product range now with replacements that are polished turds.

Honestly, people will follow and buy anything in the bike world.

Where are you based?

Does the name Santa Cruz have any significance? or did you just like it?

Honestly, what next? Polish up a Kinesis frame and stick 'ASSP' on the marketing along with a Santa Cruz sticker?
They are crowding a product range now with replacements that are polished turds.
Honestly, people will follow and buy anything in the bike world.

I broke my Heckler can I have new one please..oh crap I'm a day late! 🙄 Never mind I will get a Turner instead! 😀

I think I agree with Hora - SC are weakening their brand by extending their product range into the mid price range bikes. Will be interesting to see if thats how people view this, but with the recession if someone was thinking of buying a Nomad (non-carbon) why not buy a Butcher instead?

I agreed with reviving the Heckler, a true and simple classic (possibly the Bullit should have been left or at least completely revised from the ground up) but these two new frames are clutter. I don't see why they need to add more in and with silly acronyms.

The name Santa Cruz, I read somewhere that the 'otherside' of the business is the favourite of the founder. The bikes were just moneyspinners that grew.

It's like you've turned into angry man.

6 weeks with no sex.....so now I know what its like to be a typical STW'er

Do you not have [i]hands[/i]?

Do you not have hands?

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So they've made some new bikes which probably have better suspension than their existing "cheaper" frames - and you call them "polished turds"?

What do they have to do to make you happy Hora?

Hora be quiet.

SC are great company and those new frames look superb. Specially liking the slacker front ends.

I'm with Hora. "sinusoidal leverage" WTF.

I understand what it means but how is it a benefit?

Looks more like "stuff we can add to our single pivot frames in order to make them look different & invent an acronym".

Looks more like "stuff we can add to our single pivot frames in order to make them look different & invent an acronym".

They'll be lapping it up down at the bikeshops. Chipps, when did you become a sales rep for SCUK BTW? 😉

I recon they would make a good job of making a race frame out of carbon. monster sized tubes and aww that.It would be thee bike to have on the gate.

I didn't even get my question answered & I asked first!!