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[Closed] Pointless bike photo thread #2 - show us your sub 30lb 6" FS'ers

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I'll start - 28lbs

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Posted : 21/06/2009 8:31 pm
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6" rear but 5.5" front

30lbs on the nose.

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Posted : 21/06/2009 9:16 pm
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your scales need to be checked.


 
Posted : 21/06/2009 9:20 pm
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OK I'm 10mm short on the 6" travel, but what the hell, who's gonna start a 140mm travel thread... 😆

28lbs

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Posted : 21/06/2009 9:23 pm
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me too on the 140mm 27lbs, and i thought we all had to use kg cause of the eu??


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 7:30 am
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Never weighed it, but very confident that it's under 30lb...

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Posted : 22/06/2009 7:41 am
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As usual, lots of pointless optimism and inaccurate scales going on here. The only way to acrape under 30lbs for a 5.5" (140mm) or 6" travel is to spend £4000+ on something with a carbon frame, full XTR, Chris King etc, and superlight inappropriate tyres.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 7:48 am
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I duno, my hardtail's under 30lb (expensive scales say 29.45 with pedals and mud)

And thats not built with anything lightweight (6lb frame, XC's/321's, magura menja's, then the rest is mainly cheep/indestructable stuff)

So getting £2k+ of full susser with similar intentions under 30lb should be a walk in the park!

And next years giant reign-X is sub 30lb (if you have the cash for the XTR build)


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 7:57 am
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The only way to acrape under 30lbs for a 5.5" (140mm) or 6" travel is to spend £4000+ on something with a carbon frame,

Giant's "light metal" alu frames are lighter than their carbon ones, I believe.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:10 am
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Dunno why you would get a 6" travel bike then spoil it by putting on silly light tyres etc to keep it under 30lbs. If you are a weight weenie why did you buy a 6" travel all-mountain bike?


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:14 am
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If you are a weight weenie why did you buy a 6" travel all-mountain bike?

Exactly


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:18 am
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As usual, lots of pointless optimism and inaccurate scales going on here. The only way to acrape under 30lbs for a 5.5" (140mm) or 6" travel is to spend £4000+ on something with a carbon frame, full XTR, Chris King etc, and superlight inappropriate tyres.

Um, no. Five Pros are 28.5lb off the peg WITH pedals. Mine's 29.5lb on a digital fishing scales but it built up a fair bit from normal Pro spec. YES that's a 2.35 tyre on the front too and a 15QR vanilla!

(Yes the steerer has been cut now)

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Posted : 22/06/2009 8:28 am
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Um, no. Five Pros are 28.5lb off the peg

What, all sizes?


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:39 am
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Well no but 18" - so hardly a small - but that's with 2.4 Mountain Kings which I don't feel are up to the job, hence the change on mine.

I'm quite amused at the calls for bullshit on sub 30lb 140mm bikes - we had a thread the other day full of supposed 25lb ones!


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:40 am
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If you are a weight weenie why did you buy a 6" travel all-mountain bike?

Surely every genre of bike deserves to be as light as possible - budget allowing. IMHO weight always matters. All mountain bikes do go up as well as down you know


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:51 am
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I do wonder what the point of having an XTR mech on a 6" trail bike is. I've got one fitted as OEM on my bike, it's already been ****ted with a rock and I've only owned the bike for a couple of weeks.


 
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I do wonder what the point of having an XTR mech on a 6" trail bike is

However I do agree that this is a very valid question 😕 Unless you're made of money I wonder at the sense of fitting an XTR/X0 rear mech to any bike


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 9:20 am
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stilltortoise, absolutely, unless you're racing, it's just an expensive way of showing that you've got money to burn. Fortunately my mech is still intact, and it's only the hanger that was screwed.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 9:25 am
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I'm a convert to SLX for the rear mech. I got one cheapish (£35 I think) so not a total disaster if it gets pranged, which I tend to do a lot with rear mechs. CLumsy, me


 
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stilltortoise, absolutely, unless you're racing, it's just an expensive way of showing that you've got money to burn.

Not necessarily, some of us were lucky to bag our XTR and Dura Ace kit in the the days of cheap OEM in 2007.

8)


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 9:35 am
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140mm - 25.3lb


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 9:39 am
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Frame size can make up to a pound difference between the smallest and largest sizes.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 10:04 am
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Frame size can make up to a pound difference between the smallest and largest sizes

as can dodgy fishning weighing scales from Aldi 😀
My Whyte 46 is 28.5lb according to them, but do I believe it?? Nope


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 10:09 am
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Test them with a known volume of water. You'll have to make an allowance for the container, but you'll know how far out they are. I have a set of cheapo digital luggage scales. I calibrate them with one litre of water, 5 litres of water and 25litres of water. They only have a resolution of 20g, but they're perfectly on the money.

They make my 19" 5spot 29.4lbs and I do believe it. 8)


 
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As usual, lots of pointless optimism and inaccurate scales going on here. The only way to acrape under 30lbs for a 5.5" (140mm) or 6" travel is to spend £4000+ on something with a carbon frame, full XTR, Chris King etc, and superlight inappropriate tyres.

But with non-superlight inappropriate tyres. Not sure on weight, but it's got to be under 30lbs.

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Posted : 22/06/2009 10:49 am
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No photo but I've also got a Five that comes in at under 30lbs. It's a custom Alp proof build with only reliable kit on it (XT, Tech M4's, Van 32's, XM719's etc) and it's still heavier than my mates Remedy which has Talas 36's bolted to the front!

It's a myth that a mid travel bike needs to be overly expensive to be a decent weight and strong these days.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 11:00 am
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tree-magnet, how much did all that cost? 😯


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 11:04 am
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Chumba VF2, 5.5" travel 🙂

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Posted : 22/06/2009 11:23 am
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My Ibis with coil pikes and very heavy D321 wheels is 30lb, a change to some decent wheels and air Lyriks should see 28lb.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 12:00 pm
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28.5lbs in large. Noticibly lighter than the Meta it's just replaced, probably down to the wheels more than anything.
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Posted : 22/06/2009 1:01 pm
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Around 28 - 30lb

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Posted : 22/06/2009 1:12 pm
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Maverick sc's on the front now, not quite 6" f&r but 26.6lbs
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Posted : 22/06/2009 1:20 pm
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WTF... 'course a 6 inch bike can be under 30lb. I weighed my Reign on a mate's Park digi scale at the weekend. I expected it to be 35lb plus but it is 32lb. And that's with a set of 'zocchi All Mountains on it. with a set of lighter forks and a very small sprinkling of bling it could easily be way under 30lb without costing a fortune.

Conversely my 'light' hardtail turned out to be 26lb. It has a light frame, light wheels and light forks. It feels very light to ride. Thus proving weight is more important in some areas than others...


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 1:25 pm
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Nearly every bike in here is 5.5" not 6" but I think a S-Works stumpy is pushing it completely bearing in mind the OP started us off with an Enduro...


 
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My Pitch Comp weighed in at 32.5lbs on the shop Park scales my cheapo fleabay fishing scales measure about the same so I believe in them enough to say my bike currently weighs [b]about[/b] 32lbs. If I swapped out the coil Pikes for some 2010 Revs with 150mm travel and put some 819s on it instead of the rubbish that it now has then it would almost certainly be under 30lbs.

A riding buddy has a 5AM with 36 Talas and a relatively tough build (as you would expect) and that comes in at 29.5lbs. Granted that cost nearly 3k but I could drop the weight of my pitch to that for less than 2k all in.


 
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Surely every genre of bike deserves to be as light as possible - budget allowing. IMHO weight always matters. All mountain bikes do go up as well as down you know

The only thing that matters is whether the bike feels right to you when you ride it. I have ridden bikes that were light on paper but felt sluggish, and heavy ones that felt great. I don't know what my bike weighs, and nor do any of the people I ride with - it just seems an odd thing to obsess over when buying this type of bike.

The amount of difference between a 'heavy' and a 'light' all mountain bike is a fraction of a stone of your own body weight anyway.

And yeah apart from the Enduro are any of these bikes 6" travel?


 
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6" forks on my ibis. But yeah, 5.5" on the back.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 2:21 pm
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28.2lb - 6" / 6.25"

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I think most 5.5" bikes have more in common with 6" bikes than 5" bikes - I consider my Five to have more in common with an Enduro than a Stumpy...


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 2:33 pm
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Smidge under 30lb...

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...I bet it has the best Weight/Travel/Price ratio 🙂


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 2:47 pm
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Smidge under 30lb...

Really?


 
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Yep!

It is 'mildly modified' 😉


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 3:11 pm
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About 28lbs i think,(been awhile since it was weighed - not that fussed) built for xc/trail riding. Almost qualifies at 150mm/146mm

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Posted : 22/06/2009 4:10 pm
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28.1 lbs

pimped my ride

EDIT actually it is that weight with new air forks


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 4:19 pm
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And yeah apart from the Enduro are any of these bikes 6" travel?

Yes, it says 6.0 on the frame of my Reign. And the forks are 160mm, which is 6.3in.

Light weight is important to me, because a light bike just rides so much better than a heavy one, but I know when my bikes are light enough and I've never weighed any of them.

This thread has made me want to, but I'm worried it could be a slippery slope.


 
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What scales are people using? How can digital ones be inaccurate?

Links to the scales would be good


 
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digital bathroom scales. if you really give a **** about the weight of people's bikes under ISO Compliant conditions then you should probably give up riding bikes and take up a hobby like shooting yourself in the head with a shotgun 😀


 
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it hardly qualifies as a hobby - you can only do it once 🙄


 
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No idea how to post a photo but my Ellsworth Truth is lighter than all those lumpy old "steeds" above. !!
That Ventana looks like a Halfords Apollo.


 
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"How can digital ones be inaccurate?"

Because when they might say 35.525lbs when the bike weighs 40.321lbs

All the "digital" part removes is the human error in reading off a scale. The scales could still be inaccurate. The error could be the same for all readings (like an offset) or it may vary as a function of the reading. So it might be off different percentages of the total at different masses.


 
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26lb 10oz with ergon bar ends and atac pedals. Soon to lose a few grams as I upgrade to formula brakes. XTR rear mech 🙄 , but mostly XT drivetrain otherwise. 😀


 
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Accurate scales at around this weight are very expensive, and need to be calibrated regularly, most household scales will hardly be close BTW.


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 6:33 pm
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Weighed a 09 Enduro FSR Comp today for a customer, not really paid much attention to them this year but it came in at 29.2lb (on Ultimate Support Scales) with pedals(albeit naff plastic ones). Pretty good for 6 inch at £1600! Only 0.6lb heavier than the Stumpy FSR Elite.

My little Meta666 play bike fluctuates between bang on 30 and 32lb. picture below is certainly at the fat end of that but its running big Minions and flats ready for the Missus to use it in France - not really much i could do to get it lighter without spending silly money!

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My components weigh 22.5lb then there is the frame to add on 🙁


 
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Ha, neither 6" nor [i]sub[/i] 30 lbs (but it could easily [i]be[/i] lighter)


 
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Not weighed it yet, rider over 200lbs so I don't really suppose it matters!!


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:24 pm
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As usual, lots of pointless optimism and inaccurate scales going on here. The only way to acrape under 30lbs for a 5.5" (140mm) or 6" travel is to spend £4000+ on something with a carbon frame, full XTR, Chris King etc, and superlight inappropriate tyres.

Tosh - ok, my frame is carbon, but still weighs in at 5.5lbs. Nothing is super bling - mostly XT, with Hope Tech M4 stoppers. The only area I've really gone to town with is the Roval wheels @ 1590g. You could lose half a pound off the brakes and probably almost as much off the huge Fire FR front tyre. Get rid of the tubes and chuck a set of carbon bars on and I reckon you'd be in the mid 26's. Oh, it's a large too.

No spending £4k for me. By some selective shopping and buying last years frame/forks etc it's cost me £2700. As said earlier though - even the Alu one's come in under 30lb. Just interested to see how many more out there did.

BTW - I weighed mine on the bathroom scales and it showed around 27lb w/o pedals and on digital fishing scales with CB Mallets attached 28lb, so I'm pretty sure it's around there somewhere.

And finally - for those saying why make a 6" bike this light? This bike is like my '06 Enduro on speed. The old bike descended superbly, but half of the time it felt like I was riding through mud - this one feels just as sprightly as my HT.


 
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I reckon this is 32-33lbs, maybe I could remove a lb by taking off the chain device. The pedals and brakes are dead light, the build kit (thomson) pretty light. Talas 36s are about 5lbs right? and a DHX5, well I could replace it with the rp3 to loose a couple of hundred g's? Other than that I can't see much potential for weight reduction to below 30lbs without getting silly light XC tyres.

You may well get these bikes under 30lbs, with light tyres and wheels I bet you are all mincing around like you should be on a 80mm hardtail!

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Posted : 22/06/2009 8:43 pm
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'koff - the only thing making me mince at the moment, is these Godforsaken clipless pedals I felt the need to try. Foolish me


 
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Mmm, looking at your original photo I note that the travel indicator on the forks has moved less than 1/3rd of the travel available. Definitely indicating mincing until at least that point in the ride 😉


 
Posted : 22/06/2009 8:56 pm
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Yeah - it was all uphill until there 🙂


 
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I mince a bit. Took me five aborted attempts until I MTFU'd enough to ride down the steps at the top of Jacob's Ladder.

Hopefully a trip to Morzine in 12 days is going to sort me out. 😆


 
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few minutes on weight weenies gave me the following for a 575 with Air Pikes. About the same as on the bathroom scales. Ignitors maybe a bit light weight but have ridden Dyfi Enduro, Afan, Lakes and 7 Stanes with them okay

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frame yeti 575 large 2727.27 6.00
tyres maxxis ignitor LUST 2.35 1440.00 3.17
wheel front Hope Pro11 / mavic 819 900.00 1.98

wheel rear Hope Pro11 / mavic 819 995.00 2.19
sealant 100.00 0.22

fork Pike Air 2100.00 4.62
brakes Hope Mono M4 1100.00 2.42
saddle SDG Ti 200.00 0.44
post Thomson 235.00 0.52
stem Thomson 155.00 0.34
bar Easton Carbon riser 180.00 0.40
grips 90.00 0.20
shifter XT 250.00 0.55
chain SRAM 300.00 0.66
cassette XT 295.00 0.65
headset Chris King 100.00 0.22
pedals Shimano SPD 350.00 0.77
fr mech XTR 142.00 0.31
r mech XT 235.00 0.52
c/set XT 840.00 1.85 ex b bkt @ 100g
rear QR Hope 75.00 0.17
b/bkt Hope 113.00 0.25

12922.27 28.43


 
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Ok so it doesn't quite have 6" at the rear

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charliemort - I'm afraid that the grease on the seatpost, the lube on the chain, the longer length hoses needed on your bike and the gear cables weigh exactly 1.67lbs 😉


 
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My bike weighing in at just under 29lbs. I got a real complex about getting it in at under 30lbs when I built it. But when I finshed it was not what I hoped for in performance, no where near as good on the downs as my previous bike. So I swapped the the forks out for Lyrix coils and the RP23 for a Pushed DHX5 coil. It now tips the scales at around 31(ish). Honestly say it is just as easy to pedal up hill, but now flys down them as well. Personnelly I think this 30lbs thing is over rated. Still I had to try for myself.

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