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Why hasn't this happened already?
Because Jo said he'd rather stop drawing Mint than have him in stw and because Mark said they coudln't afford him anyway?
Mint has been on MBUK since it has more or less started....
so why break the tradition?
also I like MBUK as it has a lot of info on the whole spectrun of MTB, ok it can be childish at times but hey... in most people's eyes MTB'ing is childish anyway!!!
oh...
<gets coat and picks up a man size box of hankies and walks out into the cold, dark night>
Does STW need a strip? It's not that common among magazines to have a cartoon, I remember one of the other magazines had a cartoon strip that was awful. This was about fifteen years ago and can't remember the magazine, now defunct I believe.
MS in STW would be god but obviously not going to happen.
I love Mint Sauce. Didnt quite 'get it' before. Then it clicked 😀
[/reminisce on] I remember reading my first Mint Sauce cartoon in a 1988 edition of "Bicycle Action", long before the likes of MBUK appeared on the scene! [/reminisce off]
OK, so Jo doesn't want to do Mint for STW, but maybe there could be space for...
Son of Mint?
AndyRT - Member
oh...<gets coat and picks up a man size box of hankies and walks out into the cold, dark night>
What time zone are you in??
I was being dramatic
<whispers> I quite like Mint Sauce where it is. Mubbuk isn't that bad, it does cover all the events, not just hippityhoppity and down'illing </w>
Mint Sauce is for grown ups. MBUK isn't.
Love Mint Sauce but haven't bought MBUK for about 10 years! I'm waiting for the book.
jackthedog - Member
Mint Sauce is for grown ups. MBUK isn't.
My point exactly
what (stalker)[b]wwaswas[/b](/stalker) said
"[i](stalker)wwaswas(/stalker)[/i]"
well, as long as it doesn't involve having to visit Southwick 😉
Why's that Jo? (the not having it in ST thing?)
Also Jo, is there anywhere I can get a decent printof the 20th anniversary poster that went out with MBUKsometime last year?
I've got that in a frame but it's all creased from the mag
I'd always assumed because then MS would have to get a mortgage, kids, an Octavia diesel estate and spend his time arguing about bad driving on internet forums rather than actually going riding.
MBUK is good. Mint Sauce fits well in it.
It'd be a bit smug in ST, plus what aracer said.
rather than actually going riding
Er, is he doing any actual riding?
People who want Mint Sauce in STW are just middle aged men dreaming about their halcyon days when MBUK was it, and purple lycra and a matching fleece were considered normal MTBing-wear.
I like JoB's style (as and when I recognize it), and particularly enjoy his contributions to Rouleur.
I could never understand Mint Sauce
QED
LOL
"[i]Why's that Jo? (the not having it in ST thing?)[/i]"
any reason for me to move to ST would be the same reason for me deciding to stop, amongst a whole host of other whys and wherefores too tedious to go into here
and i'd love to do a decent print of the 20th anniversary poster, they royally f***ed up the colour on that, and it should have sat nicely in a field of white paper, heyho
and what john_l said
and what john_l said
Nearly posted 😆 when he said it.
Now really 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Shame- is there a print quality pdf of it available at all? GFs dad is a printer
errrrrr, i have a photo
I've just studied about 8 different Mint Sauces and realised that I [b]really[/b] don't understand what they're about!
edit: Perhaps it's a Garfield/Dilbert thing - I've never managed to read a whole Garfield strip without my attention wandering, but have been glued to Dilbert 🙂
that'll do!
Dilbert strips are typically only three panels long, Garfield's can run to 5 or 6 and a Mint cartoon can have at least a good dozen to read, i think i can see the problem
People always pretend they got into Mint Sauce years ago just like people pretend to have met JMC or seen him racing.
Boring.
i think i can see the problem
yeah, far too long winded 🙁
or is it because Mint Sauce only has at most 4 riders in it?
Some of them I don't get, but some just really strike a chord.
I've got Just Killing Time stuck on my wall here at work, something about it just makes me smile.
People always pretend they got into Mint Sauce years ago just like people pretend to have met JMC or seen him racing.Boring.
Or maybe some of us are just getting on a bit and really did used to buy the mag in the 90's and rode bikes?
When I started it were all fields etc etc.
I never read them.
or is it because Mint Sauce only has at most 4 riders in it?
close, I'm not a cat person so I don't understand Garfield
and I'm not a sheep person so I don't understand Mint Sauce
however I'm not a dog person but Dogbert is hilarious ...
BTW Scott Adams claims he just redraws Garfield with his own characters 🙂
Respect due to JoB for having the skill to capture what mucking about on bikes, stopping for long enough to get smacked in the face by the beauty of where you're effort has got you, and how it brings a smile to your face as soon as the 'can't be ar£3d' gremlins have been squashed back into the box they came out of.
I have to know... Is summer based on a real person you know?
+ 1 for the reprint of the anniversary poster without the creases!
Respect due to JoB for having the skill to capture what mucking about on bikes, stopping for long enough to get smacked in the face by the beauty of where you're effort has got you, and how it brings a smile to your face
oh, is that it ?
WTF is 'Mint Sauce'???
I've still got Mint suspended in a asymmetrical fish tank on my wall.......had that a few years.
All MBUK's were chucked years ago though.............
Sfb Is that it?
In part, and I do remember lusting after some anodised purple canti's....
"[i]I'm not a sheep person so I don't understand Mint Sauce[/i]"
it's not about the sheep
It's about what's inside the sheep.......
[i]It's about what's inside the sheep......[/i]
Mmmmm chops!
You either get it or you don't.
I'm trying to work out if I can be done for shop lifting by Sainsbury's if I razor mint sauce out of MBUK and offer to pay £1 for it... I reckon it would be worth getting a record for....
gtg- got a washing machine that won't ride itself....
I still have the MBC newsletters with some JB in them . At the time I probably thought they were maybe childish , or something .
MTBing was new , and it was mine , and it was punk , and it was dirty , and it was mine , and it wasnt Kid Keen , or any of that .
or something .
But I was wrong .
It's very clever , and now I kinda like it , but , as a piece of art , I'm sure you have to want to do it .
I do remember in that newsletter though , the MTB with the back end with caterpillar tracks on it , which looking back really summed up the sprawling unrelenting gadget growth of the sport .
or something .
I wanted a bike with caterpillar tracks .
In the end I got a Hite Rite.
I papered my entire bathroom wall in it,in the about the mid-90's I had years worth of the mags in a box in my spare room and did the wall facing the throne.Used to sit and read them while doing a sfb.
the main reason i get mbuk now and again! as a young un i got star struck sitting next to jo burt jmc and dave hemming at 91 malverns! ive got 'one more hill' up atm and the recent father strip was poetry.
Is that the 'bumpy cow field'?
I have a bundle of MS's taken out of MBUK's from 1992 - 1996ish, plus the calendars and posters of the time. I'm just waiting to get a spare room or garage so they can all be put back up.
You either get it or you don't.
since no one seems able to say what "it" is I think there [b]is[/b] no it.
Some of Jo's best work is in The Outcast (so only seen by a small audience).
Seem to remember a recent(?) copy having a multi-page strip concerning the internal mutterings of a group ride and what people really think of each other - might be educational for sfb?......
I've still got a Mint Sauce t-shirt awarded to me by Jon Stevenson for oozing the most blood at the MBUK Red Kite weekend downhill race...just realized that was over 17 years ago 😯
Mint Sauce t shirt in a drawer somewhere and a Mint Sauce mug that still gets used.
"Splashing through the puddles of spiritualitea, riding the ruts and ridges of cream donut climbs and buttered toast."
How about a Mint Sauce collection book? Put one together before my birthday please. And whilst I'm making requests I'd like Bill Watterson to bring back Calvin and Hobbes.
There's nothing to get.
ah, so my expectations of irony are unfulfilled...
+ 2 for anniversary poster reprint!
Or is the fact that SFB doesn't get it make it more ironic?
Or is the fact that SFB doesn't get it make it more ironic?
or that those who claim to are just pretending ?
A wave of nostalga(sp) confirms what I already know, I'm old(er than I was when I got my Muddy Fox). Do think the MS book idea is a good one.
No-one has come closer to capturing the subtleties of mountain biking than Jo Burt. I've only been a biker since 2003, but Jo's cartoons have gifted many a wry smile.
He's a damn fine writer too, I read a piece he wrote a few years back about why he hates biking in the winter. Spot on.
I read a piece he wrote a few years back about why he hates biking in the winter.
couldn't agree more, bitter cold, frikken snow everywhere, falling off on ice and slicing myself open, I hate* it!
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No-one has come closer to capturing the subtleties of mountain biking than Jo Burt
edit: * honesty forces me to admit I wasn't being truthful. In fact I look forward to those rare ice/snow rides all year round
a little [b]too[/b] subtle for some of us it seems...
Must agree with sfb. What the **** is it all about? Seems childish and peurile to me. Not remotely funny.
i think that though SFB and Mint share a love of the same sport they see mountainbiking through very different eyes, and long may that continue, for then they won't get in each other's way
while doing a sfb
Does this mean Simonfb is a euphemism for toilet activity?! 😮
And did anything come of the mint sauce keyring request?
Seems childish and peurile to me. Not remotely funny.
I'm not sure it's even supposed to be funny - but it's obvious a lot of effort has gone into creating it, so I'm left puzzled.
i think that though SFB and Mint share a love of the same sport
can I be drawn better next time please ?
PJM1974 - Member
No-one has come closer to capturing the subtleties of mountain biking than Jo Burt.
Agree. And the ones about Mint and his dad/grandad (new bike, learning to ride) create such a strong image for me of milestones in my youth, and remind me so much of my Dad, who died in '96, that they make me well up.
SFB Can I be drawn better next time please?
SFB: Squadron Leader of the reality squadron perhaps?
😯
Squadron Leader of the reality squadron perhaps?
now [b]that[/b] would be ironic given my sketchy grasp of the concept :o)
Love the art work (stunning!) but never cared much for the storylines.
I don't think you have to 'get' Mint Sauce. The strips are very, very, very simple IMO.
You just have to relate to them. As an MTBer, it's not hard to relate to a puncture, or the differences between riders, or the coming of Summer, or a mechanical, or cake, or a slow downhiller, or the beauty of nature and the starkness of winter.
Sometimes I just read them, and think, yeah, that's about spot on.
How can you not understand this? Even if only the last 2 pictures....
🙂
SFB: Squadron Leader of the reality squadron perhaps?
Does that come with a picklehaube helmet?
How can you not understand this? Evin if only the last 2 pictures....
not the slightest flicker of comprehension 🙁
But I did read "Remove your blindfold. What do you see ? Nothing left to do here. There's nothing new here. It's all the same." across the top
Which reminds me of a story my wife told me about going to see a famous guru, Sri Ramakrishna. He sat in front of the crowd saying, "You don't need me, you can work this stuff out for yourselves", and the clueless accolytes said "Master, tell us more, we bask in your wisdom" (ie not listening)
DezB (and Jo) that is well funny and would be ideal for Singletrack!
maybe now? Works for me
it raised a slight smirk, but I was more interested in "Now he's got a wife and a baby and a garden and no life of his own. It sounds like hell, but it beats life alone", which seems to characterise parenthood as an act of desperation rather than fulfillingly life affirming...
*drools*
substitute a greggs savory too though
I love the nature ones, Mother Nature answering back, that kind of thing.
I'd love to ride in Mint Sauce world, it would be a colouful day out.




