How many times do you see it, a family out for liesurely cycle ride, along the cycle path one evening. 2 kiddiewinks up front aged perhaps 10 & 12 both wearing helmets, Mummy in the middle, she's sensible she's wearing a helmet and then there's big bad Daddy at the back. He's clearly aware of the safety reasons for wearing a helmet as he's made his kids and wife wear one but not chosen to wear one himself, Daddy's a hypocrit, Daddy's a ****
This is gonna go well...
Forgo your medication this morning?
No. Daddy is an adult, and has the right to make his own decisions.
...or are you referring to yourself in the third person?
Daddy's so tired and skint he doesn't care if he lives or dies
Daddy cannot afford a helmet because he's spent all his money ensuring kids have decent helmets?
Daddy has done a risk assessment. Likelihood of falling and hitting head while pootling with the kids, virtually zero. Likelihood of the same event for the kids, high enough to warrant impact protection.
Yep, see it regularly. Does seem a little odd but as has been said, its his decision to have his wife and kids watch his brain leak out onto the path if he crashes.
Aldi are selling helmets for ten quid, they have the kite mark on, don't gimme skint.
Even for a pootle with the kids if you can increase your chances of not dieing, why wouldn't you?
Yes I agree it is his choice, I'm not ranting over it just observing.
I'd suggest it's more of a problem of setting an example to the kids.
Dad doesn't wear a helmet so therefor they aspire to not wearing a helmet. Explaining risk assessment to kids isn't going to be of any use!
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when I took the eldest to nursery by bike (kid seat) I wouldn't wear a helmet, child did. My reason was some research suggests you get more room from drivers going lidless so figured as not getting hit by a car was the most important thing. Pretty much every ride apart from that I wear a lid.Even for a pootle with the kids if you can increase your chances of not dieing, why wouldn't you?
Dad has made sure his kids are protected, wife is presumably made an adult decision to wear one whilst dad has chosen not to. I'm guessing this was a pootle round the park or similar? Can't see the problem TBH.
Standard risk assessment innit.
Probability of accident on a scale of 1 to 5 while ridinga bicycle at little more than walking pace;
Novice child=4,
Experienced adult=1.
Likely seriousness of accident on a scale of 1 to 5;
Novice child=3,
Experienced adult=1.
Total score;
Less than 3 = no helmet required
3 or above = helmet required.
Daddy's a ****
I'm not ranting
Not much...
surprised daddy wasnt wearing the stromtrooper kit i saw him wearing at swinley last week.
I'd suggest it's more of a problem of setting an example to the kids.Dad doesn't wear a helmet so therefor they aspire to not wearing a helmet. Explaining risk assessment to kids isn't going to be of any use!
This
Likely seriousness of accident on a scale of 1 to 5
twos issues
1. I fall from further so I hit the ground with more force- not sure why mine is lower can you explain?
2. It is what i hit/what hits me that causes the damages- soft foam = fine and unlikely = van wing mirror being driven at 40 = not fine big rock = not good etc
3.I will be going faster
I disagree with your assessment,
I am less likely to fall I agree but i am just as likely if no tmore so to be hurt from the fall
If you're on a cycle path at the edge of road other car users can act in unexpected ways, like pulling out for example. If you're in a park or along the canal there are a few things that can act in unexpected ways, other kids for example running or cycling, loose dogs etc.
If you can increase your chances of not dieing, why wouldn't you?
dad may wear a helmet everytime he goes shredding the gnar and has explained to the kids about risk. Heck he may have busted his lid the day before or just, you know, forgotten to bring it out with him.Dad doesn't wear a helmet so therefor they aspire to not wearing a helmet. Explaining risk assessment to kids isn't going to be of any use!
Lot of guesswork and projection for what seems to be a very minor [s]incident[/s] [s]matter[/s] bunching of the OPs gusset
BTW you're going to be pretty hard pushed not to do something hypocritical as a parent, I think aslong as you explain why you're not doing what you routinely tell the kids to do and they accept it there shouldn't be a problem.
MTQG has missed the point - it is just about setting an example not about the actual risk at that moment - you feel the littleuns need to wear one so you should too just to show it is normal. It's no different to having a rantette about the kids finishing everything on their plate but leaving all the greens on your own at the same time and not looking a pillock.
Am a total, total hypocrite though. The school I work at has a helmet must be worn rule for the kids which I flaunt daily on my 400yd ride through the village and to my dept without thinking once about the example it sets 😳
I'm not a hypocrite, my lad hasn't got one on either.
That better?
Why are the kids wearing helmets?
This is not a dangerous activity that requires PPE:
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When you go for a ride with kids do you race them? 🙂I will also be going faster as well
I dont like seeing kids wear helmets.
Theyll hate wearing em think cycling is at best for goons, at worst dangerous, stop cycling at 13, get a Saxo at 17. Mow some poor sod over at 21 or at least get fat from inactivity and have wasted lives as big blobs of fat.
He's clearly aware of the safety reasons for wearing a helmet as he's made his kids and wife wear one
My "wife" can make her own decisions.
I don't wear a helmet. My daughter does. She's much more likely to fall over and hit her head, and her head is softer. She did once ask why I didn't wear a helmet, I told her that my head was harder than hers.
Being guilted into wearing safety equipment I don't need is just as bad an example to kids as the opposite.
Are you wearing a helmet now? Do you you wear one when you drive a car? 😈 You are far more likely to die behind the wheel of a car than on your pushbikeIf you can increase your chances of not dieing, why wouldn't you?
Daddy's an adult who may occasionally use colourful language, drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes.
Daddy may stay up late watching telly or use the computer when ever he wants.
Because daddy does this should little johnny feel that he should also .
No because little johnny should understand he is a kid and daddy is daddy.
Do as I say and not as I do.
1. I fall from further so I hit the ground with more force- not sure why mine is lower can you explain?
2. It is what i hit/what hits me that causes the damages- soft foam = fine and unlikely = van wing mirror being driven at 40 = not fine big rock = not good etc
3.I will be going fasterI disagree with your assessment,
I am less likely to fall I agree but i am just as likely if no tmore so to be hurt from the fall
I agree with MTG's original assessment, I can only remember two JRA accidents in all the years I've been biking arround. One was on a wet tramline in Sheffield, the other was on some spilt diesel in the rain at a give way line. I think I probably have more trips and stumbles walking arround than I do near misses whilst pootling on bikes.
This is not a dangerous activity that requires PPE
This I agree with.
Having said that I'd still wear a helmet, but it's a personal choice.
Daddy has done a risk assessment. Likelihood of falling and hitting head while pootling with the kids, virtually zero. Likelihood of the same event for the kids, high enough to warrant impact protection.
i don't wear a helmet when I'm riding with my 2yr son because I'm worried about falling off, I do it because he insists that daddy put his 'bikeat' on.....
Daddy's a violent drunk and the wife's too scared to mention it?
What if its not their Daddy? 😯
Daddy has read all about someone banging on about rotational injuries and got scared.
I went out for a couple of miles with Warton junior(4).
We averaged 7mph.
I run faster than that. where do i buy running helmets?
tinas your anecdotes about your accidents do not negate the fact that adults are higher up than kids and therefore fall from further and hit with more force
nor do the negate the other points
It's a transition stage so daddy doesn't have to?
Daddy puts helmets on children, helmets not fitted properly, are loose, are tilted back leaving huge amount of forehead exposed to smack in to the ground
Wearing a helmet on a cycle path........how did I ever survive my childhood without one? Daddy won't have a bell next.
I'd suggest it's more of a problem of setting an example to the kids.
+1
Wearing a helmet on a cycle path........how did I ever survive my childhood without one? Daddy won't have a bell next.
That's the problen thought THM, you survived hence you can type on here, literally millions didn't.
Saw a good one yesterday. Dad with helmet on, two children without. Bit of a twist on this thread...
Daddy puts helmet on child because he loves him dearly and wants to protect him.
Daddy does not wear one as does not feel one is necessary for him and as an adult is free to make that decision.
stranger comes over and points that he is a hypocrite and a **** in his actions and should wear a helmet also.
Daddy tells stranger to frank bough and mind his own business and there is only one lady part here.
Brilliant - thought the OP got idiotic post of the month till stabilizer piped up
Wearing a helmet on a cycle path........how did I ever survive my childhood without one
same way we all survived without seatbelts and with cars that had shit brakes and did not adhere to crash standards
Shall we return to it because it was safe as we survived?
The main problems here is that those who did not are not here to talk about it
FWIW I also survived my folks smoking around me and my dad doing 120[ on a B road ] in a rover 35000 with 7 in it so i can assume that is safe as well
One tries.
I have 2 boys (aged 6 and 4), I try to set a good example to them.
So when we go riding bikes we wear helmets, simple.
That being said we will be riding to half term sports club this week and then I'll go on to work and so I'm vaguely presentable, I'll not wear a helmet. Let's see of he notices... not entirely sure what I'll say if he does.
Standard risk assessment innit.Probability of accident on a scale of 1 to 5 while ridinga bicycle at little more than walking pace;
Novice child=4,
Experienced adult=1.
Likely seriousness of accident on a scale of 1 to 5;
Novice child=3,
Experienced adult=1.Total score;
Less than 3 = no helmet required
3 or above = helmet required.
Of course, you're making the assumption that daddy on his £80 Tesco full suspension weapon is an experienced adult (rider) when in reality, it could well be that 'novice' child who rides his bike at every opportunity up and down the street is a better rider than daddy who hasn't touched anything with two wheels since he was a kid, 30 years ago.
Of course, everyone can do whatever they want. Personally, my kids don't get on a bike without a helmet on and neither do I, even if its just for a pootle around the park.
