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[Closed] Do you buy a bike to hide your weaknesses or to show off your strengths?

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Say, for example, that you are a pretty strong climber but a nervous descender. Do you buy a nice light XC bike so that you can climb even faster and accept that you will always be slow on the way down, or do you buy a big bouncy skill compensator to try and make the downs a bit more fun (given that you'll still be at least average going up).

Or, say that you struggle to keep up with your mates on the climbs, but kill them going down. Do you buy an XC bike to help you stay with the pack going up, or a big sled so that you can really thrash them going down.

In short, do you tend to buy bikes to enhance the stuff that you are already quite got at or to compensate for your weaknesses?


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:22 am
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No


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:24 am
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Yes


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:25 am
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Weaknesses?


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:25 am
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I tend to buy bikes that I like and worry about the other stuff afterwards.

I'm a pretty average rider and accept that I'll never use them to their full potential but if I like the way the ride (and look!) I'll buy one.

I bought my Rune for a variery of reasons - I liked it, it had around the amount of travel I was looking for, it was one of the few frames in my budget and it could be used with 26inch wheels because I didn't want to have to buy wheels, tyres and forks too.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:26 am
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dunno


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:27 am
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I suppose my weakness is I don't earn enough to buy the latest fancy kit....


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:45 am
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I buy a bike I think I'll enjoy riding and is a nice colour 😀


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:48 am
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My weakness is I can resist everything except a bargain.

Having said that mostly my bikes seem to all start moving towards the longer travel end of their intended range so I guess that's me compensating. Except the rigid singlespeed. Although I've put a dropper post on it (which has made it really rather good through wooded singletrack - it's sometimes faster than my 140mm FS bike).


 
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Crap thread alert!!!


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:49 am
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No - its got to be red. Only red ones allowed....except the white one though. Yeah - weakness for mostly red bikes.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:52 am
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a big bouncy skill compensator
yes
big sled so that you can really thrash them going down
yes
buy bikes to enhance the stuff that you are already quite got at
yes

am never going to be any good at going uphill or riding around fields gravity is the only thing on my side


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:53 am
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Nope - unless you count my skill as building bikes then I definitely ride a bike that shows that off 😆


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:56 am
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Neither.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:56 am
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Good question, would be interested in people's answers tho not many taking it seriously so far. Personally I reckon I'm about evens in descending v climbing, but I enjoy downs more so get a bike more geared towards them so normally as burly as I can get while not being a complete pig to pedal up/along the required distances.. A nice light efficient would be nice for longer rides with less technical descending, meaning to build up a sprightly climber for a while but normally end up with something not quite as gnar and a pound or two lighter than usual instead of a proper fast bike.

I suppose my weakness is I don't earn enough to buy the latest fancy kit....
doesn't have to be latest kit (or mega-bucks) to be either up or downhill orientated tho does it?


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:57 am
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I build my bikes to suit where I ride. I love cycling too much to load it with my insecurities. Life's hard enough!


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 9:58 am
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I buy bikes which then show up new weaknesses.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:03 am
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If you don't want to think in terms of strengths and weaknesses, you can approach the same question in terms of fun and enjoyment.

Do you tend to look at bikes that will make the bits of the ride that you don't enjoy more bearable or do you go for bikes that makes the bits you find fun already even more fun?


 
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I buy a bike that will be enjoyable to ride, or suit the purpose of the riding.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:08 am
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Aye maybe a better question, "accentuate the fun stuff or minimise the crap/boring stuff?"

Are there many great climbers who are nervous descenders tho? Will be some but would have thought the majority would be the opposite* or all rounders.

*totally understandable considering descending is pretty much universally appreciated whereas uphill is an acquired taste.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:09 am
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I tend to go with a fast bike for the terrain, and one which makes the local terrain the most fun too. If there is anything really gnar on a ride, then it will be a tiny bit that I'm happy to mince down in return for a fast ride over most of the ride.


 
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I think the same as Al and Tang.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:23 am
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strengths?


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:24 am
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What mindmap3 said sums it up!


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 10:29 am
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have you seen my 24'' surly tourer, fitted with full guards, rear rack, 48c bulletproof tyres, panniers, bell, rearview mirror, flat pedals, 22/32/42 fitted with a 11.36 cassette.

deffo a skill compensator......... 😀


 
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I choose a bike to be most fun for what I want to use it for. Accordingly I'd never buy something that prioritised climbing above all else as climbing is never much fun. It's a balance, biased towards the parts of the ride that I enjoy most. That happens to be the bits I'm best at but it's fun not performance that makes the decision.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 11:16 am
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Suppose it works like this... My strengths are in the things I do most, which are the things I like most. My weaknesses are in the things I do least, because I'm not that into them. And my bikes are all built to do the things I do most not the things I don't really dig. So yeah it'd be daft for them to do anything else really.

These days a good bike can cover all the houses though so it's not like you have to overspecialise- my everyday trailbike is built for bombing down stuff but all it took was a tyre change to solo the Glentress Seven on it.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 11:19 am
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weaknesses and strenghts only exists together..
no need to compensate..
I enjoy both..
If I build up a new bike ..
its always a promise for new adventures..


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 11:20 am
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Or buy it because you like the colour? <<<< works for me!


 
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I built up a bike to suit what is 95% of my local riding terrain - so I opted for a lightweight 100mm hardtail. I've used a 6" FS on the same trails for years and I can honestly say that it's a joy to be rid of the heavy, sloppy-arsed beast.

Gravity runs are where I excel but I'm weak on the climbs so, to a degree, I went for the current choice because I wanted help going upwards. But the main deciding factor was the honing of my riding on a rigid hybrid on and off road for the last seven odd years. I liked the riding postion and the the weight so wanted something with similar contact points and a similar weight but with fatter tyres and front suspension. So that's where I ended up.

I know someone who has numerous bikes, most of which are very lightweight. It never made sense until he explained his need to be first to the top. He was never that good going down because he used to bottle it too often. The bikes afforded him the excuse for being slow on descents or, on a few occasions, a total refusal to even drop into a bomb hole. Not mocking, just seems a bit weird to not admit you don't want to do something instead of finding excuses. I rode a few of those bikes and hammered them - none broke.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 11:31 am
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Say, for example, that you are a pretty strong climber but a nervous descender. Do you buy a nice light XC bike so that you can climb even faster and accept that you will always be slow on the way down

^^ This, but then I've never been a fan of going downhill. I Love climbing.. 😀


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 11:35 am
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Can a bike really show that i am "good" at arguing and crap at spelling?


 
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I have a do everything 120mm FS which is more than in need for 95% of my riding , and a lighting 100mm hard tail for backup/racing.

As my strength is best described as "Le Rouleur" I changed both to 2x10 with a 40/28 and 34/12 to allow me to ride along the flats at speed. As I've got fitter though I've found by accident the 28/34 combo tends to get me up hills quicker once I've got my rhythm.

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I know someone who has numerous bikes, most of which are very lightweight. It never made sense until he explained his need to be first to the top. He was never that good going down because he used to bottle it too often. The bikes afforded him the excuse for being slow on descents or, on a few occasions, a total refusal to even drop into a bomb hole. Not mocking, just seems a bit weird to not admit you don't want to do something instead of finding excuses. I rode a few of those bikes and hammered them - none broke.

Hasn't worked when I've ridden with him. 😉


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 12:02 pm
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Heh

To be fair to him, I don't think you knew him when he was at his peak, although he's never been as fit you are now since I've known him.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 12:09 pm
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I buy a bike to ride. This year will see my first new MTB (self-build) in 13 years. The last one was fun.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 12:16 pm
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An interesting question.

I reckon that most people I ride with build bikes for the part of the ride they enjoy the most, ie downhill.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 12:16 pm
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Mine definitely shows off my strengths….

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+1 D0NK, surely you buy a bike that you think excels in the sort of riding you enjoy, which may play to your strengths but isnt "showing off"?

I built up a bike to suit what is 95% of my local riding terrain

I did the opposite. I built a bike that will excel in the sort of big riding experiences that memories are made of, but that is still useable on my local terrain. I dont want a bike that will excel in the Chilterns*, but in France Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, India, Colorado, Morocco...

*you probably have more interesting and worthwhile local trails!


 
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I'm an average climber and even on a tiny little featherweight carbon bike I'd still be an average climber, my bike was bought as it is an average climber but amaze balls downhill, just like me 🙂


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 12:30 pm
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I don't think I buy/assemble any bike specifically to accommodate my strengths or weaknesses, I choose bikes that I believe will provide me the most enjoyment (at the price I can afford)...


 
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I've given this a few seconds thought and can genuinely say that I buy a bike to ride it.


 
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Do you buy a bike to hide your weaknesses or to show off your strengths?

I bought a bike to show off [b]other peoples[/b] weaknesses 😉 (Dialled Alpine)


 
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To be fair to him, I don't think you knew him when he was at his peak, although he's never been as fit you are now since I've known him.

Is this someone with whom you had a disagreement, who had a penchant for coffee and one sided forks...?!

Like virtually everyone it's a bit of both for me, I ride a lightweight XC race bike, because I enjoy riding fast and racing XC. I'd quite like a trail bike as well to give a bit more help on the descents (which is where I struggle most), but even then it'd be something I could still hammer on the climbs.

I think Northwind probably summed it up most eloquently.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 1:00 pm
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When i was looking to replace my miniDH bike for something that could be pedaled more easily but still cut it going down, i narrowed my choice to either a Stumpjumper or Enduro. Both very capable for all day riding but one was easier and less tiring to climb on, so that's the one i got. Nothing to do with showing off as only show off when no one is about to see it 😆


 
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Never bought a bike. I've built my bike with parts that were on offer, looked like that they'll last, are rated well or are hand-me-downs. Consequently my 1x8 bike weighs 35lbs, has a mixture of DJ/DH/xc/road parts. Not too much of an issue as I prefer descending although rear-suspension, a dropper and some knobblies would be nice at times.

I'm currently building an 02 Patriot on the cheap too. It's a bit of a museum with the mishmash of parts.


 
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