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Kudos OP, you're making my crusade against noisy disc brakes look somewhat rational! 😁
Ah, it all makes sense now. Golf...
Kudos OP, you’re making my crusade against noisy disc brakes look somewhat rational! 😁
Started my own crusade here https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/sram-centerline-xr-rotors-with-shimano-105-road-calipers/ - rumors has it Swisstop's Exotherm 2 organic pads are the best..(see how Shimano's 1/3 of the price organic ones do first).
Given that "broken" is a subjective values judgement in the OPs head and concerns a noise that DT hubs make (both my sets do this) it is clear he has bought the wrong hubs and wasted his money.
The chances of buying a hub that meets your brain's requirements and has same flange height is surely slim.
What made you want a noisy ratchet hub in the first place?
Chris King hubs make a right racket, but maybe it will not be a broken noise in your head?
YMMV but I had never heard an oscillating hub before and to me it sounds like it's broken. I don't think it's a weird requirement, I think it's weirder to think it sounds good.
I wasn't aware how much road use+carbon rims amplified noise coming from Hope Pro 2 Evos which sound lovely. Less is more on the road, so skeptical to both Chris King and Carbon Ti hubs with their high POE, Hope RS4 seems like a better bet.
The chances of buying a hub that meets your brain’s requirements and has same flange height is surely slim.
According to DT's spoke length calc all the hubs I'm considering are within 1 mm of the spoke length used with the DT350, so besides the rebuild cost/time it needn't be that expensive.
Hope RS4 seems like a better bet.
I hear an oscillation on that video.
I hear an oscillation on that video.
100%.
Imagine going through all this, to put in a pawl'd hub that does exactly the same.
All hubs sound like that when you spin them up in your house. But you carry on...
I hear an oscillation on that video.
True, but it's nowhere near as bad! Let me remind you:
DT350
All hubs sound like that when you spin them up in your house. But you carry on…
False
Ah, right now I get it. I've spotted the problem. The DT is upside down.
...and doing that with your bike upside down will scuff your saddle and shifters.
My Superstar hub has no funny oscillating noises.
Hope Pro Evo 2 40 POE low grease
https://streamable.com/awiayy
Hope Pro Evo 2 40 POE DT grease
https://streamable.com/zixctg
DT350 24 POE
https://streamable.com/zcpi0q
DT350 54 POE
https://streamable.com/qqrve
I really should stop lol, but even if the Hope hub sounds aggressive with its high POE, the sound is even relative to the DT hubs. Less POE is more for road use, likely less drag that way too.
Believe recording the sound with the bike upside down on the ground is better than clamped up as it won't rock as much BTW.
You won't get any koms freewheeling!
Record it again but this time with constant pedalling
If you pedal all the time then you won't hear it.
Save your money on a wheel rebuild and buy a new chain ring like a 58t so you will never run out.
Just think of all the koms you would get with a 58tx10?
PS how much of that noise is caused by those deep rims rather than the hub? I suspect hope will also make the noise with those rims.
With all seriousness, you are never going to be happy with them. Cut your losses now, sell them and buy another set.
I made that suggestion on page one but it was ignored. Plenty of other deep carbon rim choices if that's what the OP really wants.
OP is the noise an echo? Is there anyway to fill the rim void (like vibracore rims) to reduce the echo.
PS how much of that noise is caused by those deep rims rather than the hub? I suspect hope will also make the noise with those rims.
The rim amplifies the noise, but it doesn't create its oscillating nature - just look at other DT hub noise vids.
Right now it's tolerable with a 24T ratchet, but it doesn't please my ears either ;p
Haha, it's just noise, let it go, ride your bike, DT hubs oscillate, accept that and deal with it or change them. FWIW Hope hubs are louder, I have both. Oh and never buy a Shimano Microspline hub for your mtb, they go between clicky and silent dependent on speed, would drive you mad!
oldnpastit
Round spokes are far more aesthetically pleasing than bladed. For starters, they are symmetrical.
This is your second post on this thread confusing "straight pull " with "bladed" - they're not the same thing. Plenty of non-bladed straight pull spokes out there, and there are j-bend bladed spokes also.
For lower drag, go for fewer points of engagement.
I would suggest just getting used to the noise. If you're really worried about drag, as others have said, don't freewheel.
You would probably get faster from riding the thing, even if indoors on a trainer, than constantly obsessing over things that, in the real world, don't matter.
I read this and thought, this sounds like the op needs a fixed gear hub. Losing the freewheel is the only way to get rid of freewheel noise completely.
But then I thought any chain noise and bottom bracket squeaks might still bother him so maybe a penny farthing would be better.
Then it hit me. No child has ever complained that their balance bike was too loud.
The op can convert his bike to a balance bike at no expense by simply removing the drive train components and lowering the saddle. He doesn't even need to change the hub as the free hub won't rotate without the chain fitted.
Once he has ridden it in public a few times, marvelled at the silence and been sufficiently ridiculed he will hopefully realise that the free hub noise really wasn't that bad.
(Disclaimer: Some people are highly tolerant to ridicule as proven by the existence of mamils, so this approach may not work in all cases.)
Seriously OP. Just ride your bike. No bike is ever totally silent.
Oh and never buy a Shimano Microspline hub for your mtb, they go between clicky and silent dependent on speed, would drive you mad!
Appreciate the warning!
If you’re really worried about drag
Nah, but given the choice..
I read this
No you didn't.
£250 well spent 😳
Nice.
£250 well spent 😳
£161 factoring in selling the old hub, plus shaves off a bit of weight not that it matters but hey.
It's a bit loud, but not too bad and can turn the volume down by adding a bit more grease, thank lord it doesn't have the oscillating buzz of the DT.