Tracking The Health Of The Bike Industry In 2023

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There are a lot of signs that the bike industry is going to struggle in 2023, so we thought we’d start a story to track some of the stories we hear about that take the temperature of what’s happening. Things like signs of cash flow problems, tales of supply chain delays, signs that overstocking is taking its toll, and news of buyouts and mergers are all expected to be regular occurrences this year. Many of these things happen in other years too, but we’re expecting the turbulence to affect big names as well as smaller players this year.

We’re still only half way through January, so let’s take stock of what’s already happened in December 2022 through to now. We’ll skip past November’s casualties of Stanton and The Bicycle Academy as we’ve already reported on those.

Outdoor Provisions closes – December 7th

The makers of tasty ‘real food’ snacks, often seen at events, announces it’s to close.

Cyclorise ceases trading – November 30th

Distributors of many niche American brands announces closure.

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GT Drops Factory Race Team – November 22nd

In a move that illustrates the changing face of the industry, GT dropped its factory race team, saying it’s shifting focus to grass roots racing. Other teams look to be reassessing what their racing year ahead will look like, with some big name riders still thought to be without contracts for 2024.

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GCN+ to close – November 16th

Media outlet and subsidiary of the Warner Bros. Discovery behemoth GCN+ announced its closure from 19th December, leaving many wondering how they would be able to watch next season’s mountain bike racing. Staff reactions on social media and LinkedIn expressed disappointment at what was seen as a corporate decision, and many wondered whether the ‘passion projects’ like the documentary films would continue.

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Raleigh drops Parts and Accessories Function – November 9th

In a move that narrows the available suppliers for local bike shops, Raleigh has dropped its Parts and Accessories function. That means the brands like MET, Bluegrass and Stans will be looking for new UK distributors. Raleigh UK and Moore Large, who went into administration earlier this year, were important suppliers, particularly for smaller bike shops. They’ll now be looking to source new accounts for workshop spares, as well as helmets and other products.

SIGNA Sports Enters Administration – October 27th

SIGNA Sports, parent company of Wiggle CRC – along with distributor Hotlines, and brands Nukeproof, Vitus and Ragley – entered administration, in probably the biggest industry (bad) news of the year.

MBR goes online only

MBR magazine announced it was ceasing print editions, going online only.

Sixth Element Wheels Ceases Trading – Article Update, October 2nd

Sixth Element Wheels, purveyors of affordable carbon wheels to match your bike, is reported to have ceased trading.

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Cranked Magazine ceases publication – 1st August

Editor and founder of Cranked Magazine, Seb Rogers, announced the next issue would be the final issue of Cranked Magazine.

Planet X ‘saved’ – June 2023

After unconfirmed rumours of being entered into administration circulated, a ‘pre-pack’ rescue package of discount retailers Planet X was announced.

2Pure, UK Distributor for Ibis, Enters Administration – Article Update, May 19th

Another distributor has called in the administrators: this time it’s 2Pure, based just outside Edinburgh, who are probably best known to you as the UK Distributor for Ibis. They’re also the distributor for milKit tubeless gear and were previously the distributor for Coros, a wearable tech and helmet brand that have been doing a lot of promotion in the bike world recently, however Coros went direct to consumer earlier this year. We’ve asked Ibis if they have other UK distribution plans in place, here’s what they’ve told us:

The future is unclear. For the time being, Ibis USA will act as the distributor to the UK. We will continue selling to Ibis dealers in the UK, supporting warranties, and providing customer service via Ibis USA.

Ibis

For now, Ibis fans might like to note there’s some very substantial offers on complete Ibis bikes via Merlin.

Q1 Reports Reveal Sales Down By Up To 30% – Article Update, May 5th

As companies release reports on their Q1 sales for 2023, significant drops in sales and income over the same period the previous year have been revealed. Fox reports that overall income is up thanks to the powered vehicle market, but in its bike segment – which includes Marzocchi and Race Face – sales were down 30%. Thule reports a 26.6% drop in sales for Q1 compared to last year, which it puts down to reduced demand in the bike sector. This equates to net income for the same period being down 47.9%. Another company reporting Q1 drops in sales is MIPS, who has seen sales drop 35% compared to last year, equating to a 70% drop in income. Shimano reports a 17% drop in bike sales for Q1, equating to a fall in income of 32%.

The above figures compare performance to Q1 in 2022, when the covid bike boom was mostly over but there was still nervousness over the availability of products. We’d also yet to feel the full effects of fuel price rises and other cost of living increases. The disproportion between the percentage reductions in sales and the reductions in income suggest that perhaps factors such as rising costs or a need to shift excess inventory at reduced prices may be having an impact on finances, alongside reductions in actual purchases being made.

Lauf Reduces Prices After Operations Shift – Article Update, April 28th

Moore Large Distribution Goes Into Administration – Article Update, 14 March

It’s reported that distributor Moore Large entered administration. Greg Connell, Managing Director of Business Information Company InfolinkGazette, posted on Linked In:

The UK’s largest family owned supplier and distributor of bicycles Moore Large & Co filed a Notice of Appointment to appoint an administrator in the High Court today [13/03/2023]. Greg Connell, Managing Director of Business Information Company InfolinkGazette, commented: “the Trustees of the Moore Family Settlement have a legal charge over all present and future intellectual property rights and with 5 other secured charges, the outlook for unsecured creditors is unlikely to be favourable.”

Chris Bonner, an Account Manager for Moore Large, also posted on Linked In:

It saddens me that with immediate effect I am looking for work. Sadly Moore Large has fallen into administration, leaving all employees out of work.

Moore Large had been subject to a management buyout in April last year, with Managing Director Nigel Moore retiring after 40 years in charge. Less than a year later, despite being the distributor for significant brands such as Tern bicycles, SR Suntour and We The People BMX, the company has entered administration. We expect to see other distributors hoping to pick up distribution rights to the brands as the administration procedure progresses.

The Rider Firm Redundancies – Article Update, 22 February

The Rider Firm – the company behind Privateer, Cairn and Hunt Wheels – has taken cost saving measures resulting in the loss of approximately 10% staff. Having visited their Surrey HQ and met many of the staff over the years, we’ve seen first hand how friendly and close-knit everyone there is. Lots of riding to work, after work laps, weekend adventures and so on – the kind of scene any rider might hope to work in. It’s also a company that has set a lot of store by being reliable and trustworthy – their pre-order business model has meant that following through on your promises is important. Talking to people there, it’s clear the redundancies have been a tough decision, and we wish everyone on both sides of this situation all the best. Here’s the official statement:

In order to manage costs and defend the long term financial health of this business amid both industry-specific and larger global economic challenges, we made the very difficult decision to enter a consultancy process, which led to the redundancy of approximately one in ten roles within The Rider Firm. We’re very grateful for the contributions of each and every team member, and remain focused on our goal of serving riders with the best possible products and service. We are offering resources to support the affected staff through this difficult time.

Tom Marchment, Co-founder
The Privateer 161 slithers into our Issue 148 Bike Test, coming soon!

The Herd Group Holdings buys Wildcat and Velovixen – Article Update, 22 February

In some hopeful news, Herd Group Holdings (parent company to Stolen Goat) has bought Velovixen – which we reported in January had gone into administration – and Wildcat, UK makers of bikepacking gear. They’re going to be launching a crowd funder to support their plans, sign up here to get early info.

Wahoo Credit Rating Downgrade – Article Update, 20 January

Wahoo’s ability to service its debt is in question following a downgrading of its credit rating to -CCC.

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Halfords Sales Reflect Economic Squeeze – Article Update, 17 January

Halfords issued a trading update which appears to show that the cost of living is taking its toll on its cycling business. Overall, cycling sales are down 21.2%, with growth in the auto side of the business offsetting these losses. Full story here:

https://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/halfords-bike-sales-reflect-cost-of-living-squeeze/

Specialized Lays of 8% of Staff Worldwide – Article Update, 12 January

Bicycle Retailer reported on 11th January that Specialized had announced 8% of job cuts, affecting staff worldwide.

Over the last three years, the industry has changed at an incredible pace and shown that cycling is more powerful than ever. It’s clear the time has come for transformation and shifts for the future.

This past week, Specialized made the incredibly difficult decision to say goodbye to 8% of teammates around the world. With the global economy changing faster than anticipated and rapid changes within cycling, the organization adjustment will allow the brand to be adaptive, whilst still investing in innovation.

“We are transforming the company around our purpose to Pedal the Planet Forward. Our priority is to better serve riders, retailers, and communities and to be the best place for our teammates to innovate and grow. The time is now to adapt to the current environment and ultimately led us to make some extremely tough decisions today. I want to recognize those teammates who departed and thank them for all their contributions, hard work, and dedication to Specialized. We are focused on ensuring that they are fully supported during this difficult time. It may be tough to see in the moment, but the future of cycling and the future of our brand is bright.”

– Scott Maguire, Specialized CEO

Reports that Giant delayed payments to suppliers

Over Christmas, Giant’s shares lost value amid reports in local media in Taiwan that suggested Giant had asked its suppliers for permission to delay payments to them. Local press said that this led to an official statement from Giant saying that Non-disclosure agreements prevented the company from commenting, and that it was unfortunate that the letter had been leaked.

Delaying payments to suppliers might be done to alleviate cash flow issues. It might also be done where the products are not required imminently – something which seems likely in this case, amid reports of overstocking across the bicycle industry. If you’ve still got products sitting in shops waiting to sell, you don’t need more of it leaving the factory and adding to your stock levels. We are aware that embargo/release dates for some Giant models have been pushed back by two months from their original launch dates, which may or may not be linked to the company’s payment issues.

Merida was also caught up in the market speculation, and its shares fell too amid concerns it might be exposed to overstock issues. However, it told local news that it was not seeking to delay payments to suppliers and cash flows are normal.

Merida (blue) and Giant (purple) share prices took a plunge on 13 Dec amid market speculation.

Late Accounts

On 3rd January, Cyclesport North Limited – the parent company of Ribble Cycles – had a ‘First Gazette‘ posting issued against it by Companies House. Now that this has been issued, unless within two months cause is shown to the contrary the company will be struck off the register and the company will be dissolved. Accounts have been overdue since 31st October 2022, and we have been told that the notice is due to this delay, which is ‘due to the availability of the auditor’ (Past Auditor has been PWC). We’re told the accounts will be filed soon. Update, 20th January: The compulsory strike-off action has been discontinued.

Velovixen Enters Liquidation

Velovixen, supplier of women’s cycle clothing, announced on 4th January that it was going into liquidation. Citing ‘an unprecedented number of adverse forces’, the owners regretted the position they find themselves in.

…some of the factors include: the hugely increased cost of products; energy price hikes and their widespread damage; changes in customer behaviour, with ever-growing returns rates and appetite for discounts; far more expensive advertising rates; and the broader cost-of-living crisis.

At the end of the day, if a product is discretionary, then right now people are understandably looking to spend less on it. And, whilst we remain passionate about it, much cycling clothing is not absolutely vital for survival.

Velovixen

We expect there will be other smaller brands who find themselves in similar situations this year. Remember to support the brands you love!

Shimano Delays Motor Delivery

Cy from Cotic informed his newsletter readers that Shimano has pushed back their delivery slot for motors and associated ebike bits from September 23 to June 24 at the earliest. We know that electronic chip demand across the world is high, and delays are being experienced in everything from cars to games consoles, so while it’s not entirely surprising to hear this news, it’s a sign that supply chains are still in disarray.

What next?

We’ll keep our ear to the ground for more news. If you’ve got a local bike shop that closes, add it in the comments section.

While you’re here…

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  • Tracking The Health Of The Bike Industry In 2023
  • dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    I meant where the range starts for “premium” bike ranges.

    Want premium, pay premium.

    You can get better for less money if you stop being a tart about it. (said as a self confessed tart)

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    I find it interesting that we’re mostly judging the health of the bike industry based on bike/frame manufacturers. But the “bike industry” isn’t just bikes.

    I reckon what you may well see in 23/24 is more about people choosing not to spunk vast sums on bikes/frames/forks, and instead focussing their available spending spend on parts, clothing and accessories instead. Tracking the fortunes of companies that deal in those areas might be an important indicator of industry health.

    The health of the market i.e. people participating in cycling and therefore buying bike related stuff might be better judged based on those “Suplimentary” sales.

    If (big if) ecconomic conditions are looking healthier come 2025 then bike sales to all those people who’ve “muddled through” on a 3 year old bike and only bought new shoes and shorts may be in a position to throw more cash at the likes of santa cruz and SBC, you can at least gauge the size of the remaining market.

    jameso
    Full Member

    “muddled through” on a 3 year old bike

    Oh, the tough times! : )

    It’s a good point and boom and bust prob won’t just settle afterwards, it’ll carry on to+fro for a bit. The number of riders who buy parts and upgrade or carry parts over across frames is pretty small in general though and a tiny part of the market when looking at the range of bikes that are overstocked currently – £250 bikes all the way up to £5k+.

    It is a time when a canny trader should do well. There’s a lot of oem kit stuck mid-chain and there are clearance specialists who find it and just need to put the right deals in front of customers. But that really doesn’t help our local IBDs, to your first point – the bike industry really isn’t just bike brands.

    whatyadoinsucka
    Free Member

    £3k for a full suspension?, well if you head over to wiggle/crc, it would seem nukeproof and vitus have over stocked
    £1.9k-2.25k for an mega or reactor or escarpe / sommet
    full sussers

    chakaping
    Full Member

    £3k for a full suspension?, well if you head over to wiggle/crc, it would seem nukeproof and vitus have over stocked
    £1.9k-2.25k for an mega or reactor or escarpe / sommet
    full sussers

    Exactly.

    Hopefully a sign that prices are going to settle back down a bit, going forwards.

    Want premium, pay premium.

    You can get better for less money if you stop being a tart about it.

    I’m not sure you’ve grasped my point, it’s not about what I am prepared to pay – but what’s realistic and achievable for base model bikes.

    oldfart
    Full Member

    Interesting read this . I grabbed an Onza Jackpot 3 years ago for £699 , quality steel frame , Revelations and a Reverb included . Geometry isn’t “ on trend” but as the guy at Onza said when I pointed that out “ Trails we ride in this country are still the same as they’ve always been they haven’t got any steeper or more technical “
    When this bike came out it was over £2K Singletrack had one on test they loved everything about it apart from the price tag ! Contrast that with the Orbea Rise I bought last year admittedly a totally different bike but for just pissing about in the woods which is what most of us do the Onza is perfectly fine. There’s something liberating about riding a bike that costs less than the motor for the Rise !

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    as the guy at Onza said when I pointed that out “ Trails we ride in this country are still the same as they’ve always been they haven’t got any steeper or more technical “

    That’s surely bollocks. As bikes have evolved, so have the trails in order to match them.

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    I’m not sure you’ve grasped my point, it’s not about what I am prepared to pay – but what’s realistic and achievable for base model bikes

    Maybe we’re missing each others, 🤷🏻

    Bruce
    Full Member

    The natural trails are still the same other than erosion, don’t know about man made trails as I rarely ride them.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Do you not think that (some) folk are riding more extreme “natural” lines than they used to? Certainly seems to be that way from my observations.

    oldfart
    Full Member

    scotroutes he was referencing natural stuff not the likes of BPW et al .

    LAT
    Full Member

    but there some natural trails are harder than others. with a better handling bike, the harder natural trails become more accessible.

    jameso
    Full Member

    This thread could merge with the ‘redefining the image of the sport’ article thread very soon at this rate

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    scotroutes he was referencing natural stuff not the likes of BPW et al .

    See my comments immediately above yours.

    LAT
    Full Member

    This thread could merge with the ‘redefining the image of the sport’ article thread very soon at this rate

    no one is trying to encourage new participants!

    mc
    Free Member

    I don’t think anybody can deny that it’s going to be a tough start to the year for the bike industry.

    From the people I know, shop sales have pretty much nose dived.
    Distributors are overstocked with what stock has been available from manufacturers.
    Bike shops don’t want any more stock, as it’s likely to just sit on the shelf.

    The big question is going to be how long distributors and shops can endure lack of sales.

    My guess is if there isn’t a big ease up in cost of living by mid-spring, there’s going to be a lot of good bargains to be had on what stock is available, as distributors/shops get desperate for cash flow.
    However I suspect there’s also going to be further shortages as distributors will already be scaling back orders, so if demand does ramp up, there isn’t going to be stock available to buy.

    jameso
    Full Member

    no one is trying to encourage new participants!

    To the thread or the sport?
    (sorry haha)

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    superstarcomponents
    Free Member

    Well as I (neil SuperstarComponents) work in the industry with friends everywhere from the big distributors to the taiwan/china factories I’m in a good place to know. As I’m focusing more and more on non-bike manufacturing, I also don’t need to put on the bull£&@t marketing face and pretend it’s all A-OK like most who are stuck in it.

    First forget about the top end stuff, if you can afford to drop £10k on a bike you aren’t even aware a recession is firmly here. It gets the headlines and the reviews but 99.99% of the market isn’t this. In the real world margins are thin and people have their hands in their pockets as they are terrified by their next electric bill.

    If you look at the public face certain brands put out and then you find out how much money they are pouring down the drain each month. It’s easy to be cool when you’re wasting your investors money. Then they stuff all their suppliers and take down good honest businesses. The administration statement of a certain company made chilling reading…

    Asia is imploding, the big companies have slashed their huge forward orders and stiffed the suppliers. If giant doesn’t pay, their huge supply chain can’t pay their suppliers or staff. I’ve heard of lot’s going pop and huge job losses. I’ve been told two year order books have completely gone and they are now looking for anything to make on a week by week basis. Because things look rocky their banks have pulled credit lines and continue the spiral.

    Distribution is packed full of stock but it’s mostly not what you want. They are going to be binning it out cheap to pay the bills but you can only build half a bike. All this is on financed money which has skyrocketed in cost along with inevitable huge increases in wages (not that you will be any better off). So yes realistically it’s going up in price after the fire sale.

    China is probably going to be a covid nightmare for the next six months, so supply chains are going to fall apart some more. So your cheap parts will need very expensive parts to finish your build.

    Basically everyone has said sales has nosedived and they are battening down the hatches. Some will do desperation sales for cash, others will hang on for prices to go up. I’m aiming for the latter like 2009 when everything virtually doubled in price.

    Why put prices up. Well aluminium has skyrocketed, electric is insane, everything from tooling to coolant, card boxes etc all up. Anodising gone up so much it’s not worth selling small cheap stuff. I actually think retail prices right now are so low it’s not worth making bike parts in the U.K. but inflation on retail price always lags reality.

    So am I worried. I am for the bike business but the cull of businesses will mean 2024 might be profitable if you get there. I’m going to be small and nimble to move where the work pays. I’ll make some bike stuff but don’t expect big things as people just won’t want to pay a realistic price for it right now. I’ve got plenty of medical parts to make but right now my bike clients are deadly silent. Grim times ahead.

    Neil SuperstarComponents

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    That’s an interesting read Neil, thanks.

    Here’s a silly question, do you think you would ever consider getting into ‘soft goods’ i.e. clothing and bags as an option? Or is that already a stuffed market?

    It occured to me earlier when thinking about this thread that bike clothing may well see some small of uptick as people swear off new bikes and parts for a year or two.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    @cookeaa – Velovixen have just folded. Suggests tough times in that market too? I guess the immediate competitor would be Alpkit so might be worth keeping an eye on their fortunes, though a new branch opening in Inverness suggests things might be fine for them at the moment.

    v7fmp
    Full Member

    i think so much comes down to personal circumstances when it comes to buying bikes and parts, which clearly is what is effecting the industry (outside of the supply chain stuff that Neil from Superstar just mentioned).

    For example, i am after a change in bike and my friend is also in the same boat.

    I just sold my gravel bike, which has cleared a credit card. This now allows me a bit more disposable income i can squirrel away and put towards a new frame. I say new…. it will be second hand. The first second hand bike/frame i have ever bought (i’m after a megatower V1 in large if anyone is getting rid!). I am thinking of selling my jump bike and turbo trainer to speed this process up.

    I will then transfer over the parts from my current bike. should only need an airshaft to lengthen the fork and a BB.

    My friend on the other hand, he has sold his Starling frame, which has taken a small chunk out of the £4500 Atherton frame he has on order. He has also bought some Manitou Mezzer’s, had some Crank Bros Sythesis rims built up on 240 hubs, plus new tyres, chain etc.

    Granted, he earns a bit more money than me, but has no kids and a wife that earns well. So has far far higher disposable income.

    He also has used out LBD for the wheels etc, whereas i will be online shopping for the best price.

    After typing all that, i’m not really sure what my point is, other than the amount two very similar people are willing to spend can be vastly different and where they spend it. My days of getting credit or finance for bikes are long gone. The latest Fox gear now stays on the shelves and i wear my stuff until its dead. And when i do buy new stuff, its more reasonably priced gear from the likes of Nukeproof etc.

    chakaping
    Full Member

    Very interesting to get your insight Neil, you seem to suggest that Asian suppliers will bear the brunt of the slump (alongside independent bike shops?) – with bike brands attempting to insulate themselves?

    And I guess we’ll find out if any brands have really over-extended themselves and go bust / have to cut loads of jobs.

    I wouldn’t blame you for retreating to core products for bikes – consumables like brake pads and chainrings must be safe bets? Time to finally get those Shimano DM chainrings made, perhaps.

    chrismac
    Full Member

    Definitely an interesting read Neil. I guess the real question is also what companies did with the cash from the bumper sales they all made during COVID. Im sure some will have given it away in bonuses, dividends etc in. Others may have been more prudent knowing the supply chain issues were well know. I fully accept the rise in energy prices was unexpected, but presumably raw material prices are based on supply and demand.

    RustyNissanPrairie
    Full Member

    It would be an ideal time for the bike industry to be building cheap reliable commuting bikes rather than Kashima covered bling baubles – I’ve noticed a few new wobblers on my work commute. The cost of 2nd hand cars nowadays has no doubt forced a few people.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    It would be an ideal time for the bike industry to be building cheap reliable commuting bikes rather than Kashima covered bling baubles

    You can buy both now. Always have been able to. There’s a huge range of bikes out there. Always has been.

    chakaping
    Full Member

    Perhaps Singletrack could seek more opinions and analysis from bike industry figures on the situation and put a proper feature article together? Rather than the slightly redundant compilation of doom & gloom stories in the OP.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    See my comments immediately above yours.

    I’d even say the natural stuff being ridden is harder/techier than it was. Lines that never existed are created even in off-piste, but they’re now created harder than before… so even taking into account the person was talking about non trailcenter trails, it’s still wrong to think it’s ‘the same’

    Sure, the same trails are still there… but they’re not the only trails.

    superstarcomponents
    Free Member

    Chapaking- the problem with asking the people in the industry is they aren’t going to say it’s terrible as it affects their company and job. All you will get is a typical PR piece saying it’s all going great because until they fold they aren’t going to say otherwise. Their own job relies on it… my point is I’m not reliant on bike parts anymore so can just tell the truth.

    Clothes. Hell no! A warehouse full of the wrong colours and sizes which you have to redesign twice a year and Chuck what’s left in a skip. It’s only profitable in huge volumes at ultra low margins, the big boys use it as a loss leader for marketing.

    The cash from bumper Covid sales went into paying the massively increased costs of goods and shipping. I doubt much if it is left

    What you need to think is not turnover but profit. Bear in mind in a decade my electric unit price has gone up forty times, not 40% but forty times! Chainring metal plate up 2-3 times, ano doubling or more. So machining stuff is a lot more expensive yet prices have bearly gone up yet…. So do I make medical parts or bike parts when one pays 5 times more?

    Things ain’t even got expensive yet so don’t fool yourself there’s going to be endless bargains.

    Neil SuperstarComponents

    benpinnick
    Full Member

    Very interesting to get your insight Neil, you seem to suggest that Asian suppliers will bear the brunt of the slump (alongside independent bike shops?) – with bike brands attempting to insulate themselves?

    Taiwan works on a bizarrely non-committal approach. Its basically a case of order, pay before you collect (or have a credit line). Very few contracts, not a lot of comeback for either party if one walks away.

    It used to be that you couldn’t really walk as you’d burn that bridge and getting up and running again would be hard, but now we’re seeing companies doing it routinely and then going back to the self same supplier.

    Very few companies are as open as Neil or us for sure, but you only need a couple to get a feel for it, and yep, it’s brutal out there. Many, many of the companies you know (and possibly love) are leveraged to the hilt with debt to fuel their marketing/DH team/XC Team etc. aspirations, they’re some of the biggest brands and I would say most at risk right now.

    stwhannah
    Full Member

    To answer @chakaping this story was to create a tracker of events through the year – it’s not meant to have any analysis, more to build an overview as the year goes on. We’ve got three different industry/manufacturing stories in the works, but it takes time to interview and round up people from the industry across different time zones, etc. And that costs money, so I have to keep producing other stories in the mean time.

    scotroutes
    Full Member
    BruceWee
    Free Member

    Warranty denied as I stripped the bike down?

    Just going to post a link to this thread. It might be interesting to see if any other big manufacturers stop honouring warranties.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    VeloVixen returns!

    The Goat, the Fox and the Cat: Exciting news from Stolen Goat HQ

    Stolen Goat have snapped them up, and also Wildcat, makes of fine bikepacking kit.

    solamanda
    Free Member

    High end mountain bikes used to be £6k and super bikes £10k. Super bikes are now £20k – £25k, so why wouldn’t a top end mountain bike be £12-15k? Today a £6k bike would wipe the floor of a bike of the same price ten years ago, with or without a motor.

    StuE
    Free Member

    Only worth what someone is willing to pay for it

    frogstomp
    Full Member

    Sadly, it looks like the distributor Moore Large are the latest to add to the list. Probably not a household name to the consumer but well known in the industry and have been around a while.

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    onewheelgood
    Full Member

    Probably not a household name

    Who can forget the wonderful range of Emmelle MTBs? 80s/90s classics… or not.

    didnthurt
    Full Member

    My first proper MTB was an Emmelle, it had 29″ wheels, hybrid tyres and a two tone faded paint job. It was a bit shit. But weirdly way ahead of its time…

    didnthurt
    Full Member

    Hey Neil, any chance of an oval Shimano GRX chainring that isn’t £80?

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