It’s always a pleasure to see David Turner at events like the Sea Otter and Interbike. David is a great engineer (and a pretty handy rider too) but he’s got no time for marketing and hype. His always refreshing take on things is worth parching in the desert for. If he’s having trouble developing a prototype, he’ll tell you. If he thinks that a new hub, or BB standard is silly, he’ll tell you that too. His bikes come in simple colours, with simple graphics and he’s happy to chat about any aspect of them.
So without further ado, here’s the new RFX prototype.
Turner RFX
Turner Sultan
And now here’s the Sultan. A bike that Turner was initially a little sceptical about introducing a few years ago, but it’s proved to be a very big hit. For 2011 Turner has shortened the headtube (and is running a 44mm semi inset headset) to keep the front end down for 120mm forks.
Turner DHR
That’s not a 29er… Nope, the Turner DHR is finally in production. And by the sound of things, Turner reckons it’ll run out again in about three weeks, such is the demand for the first run of bikes.
Gates Carbon Drive
Gates has just launched its new Centretrack – OK ‘Centertrack’ in their parlance, as an update to the carbon belt system first introduced in 2007. The new carbon drive belt is thinner than the old one, and features a central slot which engages in the newly redesigned cogs.
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With 23 years as Editor of Singletrack World Magazine, Chipps is the longest-running mountain bike magazine editor in the world. He started in the bike trade in 1990 and became a full time mountain bike journalist at the start of 1994. Over the last 30 years as a bike writer and photographer, he has seen mountain bike culture flourish, strengthen and diversify and bike technology go from rigid steel frames to fully suspended carbon fibre (and sometimes back to rigid steel as well.)
Anyone else think the new centretrack looks like it will get gunked up (particularly if wet) and then not mesh correctly with the gearing? Which defeats the ‘simple’ nature of the belt drive?
I’d have thought a couple of chain-guide type devices, one at the back and one at the front would have been a simpler solution to keeping the belt running centrally.
The biggest improvement Gates could make would be to start selling their belt and sprockets in a wider array of sizes. Hopefully they will be doing that with this new design.
Chunkypaul – personally I’m glad the curved tubes have been ditched. I think it looks great. Of course this prototype might not be how it turns out, but I noticed the image has changed on the official site too.
i was initially wanting to update my 6 pack with the new RFX, but ended up with a more adaptable and better built Nicolai with what’s still considered the better [Horst Link] suspension design.
does that RFX have any adjustability on rear travel ?
I do love the ‘industrialness’ of the styling and finish on the Turners ……
Thanks for posting.
What about the 5 spot?
Anyone else think the new centretrack looks like it will get gunked up (particularly if wet) and then not mesh correctly with the gearing? Which defeats the ‘simple’ nature of the belt drive?
Thanks for being quick off the mark Chippy!
Don’t journos take their own scales anyway?
I had a quick spin the DHR last month, feels really light (about 38 lbs) and really solid and super plush.
Gareth
I’d have thought a couple of chain-guide type devices, one at the back and one at the front would have been a simpler solution to keeping the belt running centrally.
Great info so far…. Any news on changes to the Flux for 2011?
Love the replaceable bolt insert thing.
Hopefully the 2nd generation belt design combined with the new 11 speed alfine might mean a few more ‘mainstream’ hub gear belt drive bikes soon.
mmmm that RFX looks nice.
Why is it I always love the raw prototype finishes.
Agree the RFX looks great, it looked good last year at Interbike too. I wish he’d get it out in the shops.
The biggest improvement Gates could make would be to start selling their belt and sprockets in a wider array of sizes. Hopefully they will be doing that with this new design.
that RFX is a right dogs dinner…
what happened to the long awaiting all new designed rfx? ditched the idea as it is too expensive?
Get the RFX up on those scales!
Any idea what size shock the RFX has Chipps?
Chunkypaul – personally I’m glad the curved tubes have been ditched. I think it looks great. Of course this prototype might not be how it turns out, but I noticed the image has changed on the official site too.
i was initially wanting to update my 6 pack with the new RFX, but ended up with a more adaptable and better built Nicolai with what’s still considered the better [Horst Link] suspension design.
does that RFX have any adjustability on rear travel ?
“a degree slacker head angle to 69.5°”
Isn’t that a typical head angle for 26″ wheeled 120mm (XC) bikes? Let alone a 29″er?
If anything is typical then yes. But what do you mean “let alone a 29″er?”
The Flux and 5Spot appear unchanged for 2011, but I’ll ask when I see him today
Jeez, change the record t_l_r, we all know you have a hard on for Kalle…
The Flux and 5Spot appear unchanged for 2011, but I’ll ask when I see him today[/I]
Are you sure? I’ve heard lower bb, slacker and 44mm head tube.
defo looks different to me 😉
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steed/5011198993/lightbox/
the finish on the sultan looks to be anodized…true? any info as to whether the bikes might be ano’d?
Yep they’re getting the ano finish