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Yay! UKIP employing Latvians to deliver their election leaflets.
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wwaswasFull Member
The party that keeps on giving.
Andrew Spalis, partner at the door-to-door distribution firm Fast Leaflet, told the Huffington Post UK that his firm has been carrying out work for Ukip and that many of its employees are from Latvia, as well as other parts of Eastern Europe. He said that the firm had “only yesterday” carried out leafleting for the party.brooessFree MemberWhat’s worrying is everytime one of these FAILS is publicised, their poll ratings appear to go up 😯
Has someone put something in the water?aPFree MemberIsn’t he the bloke who drinks pints?
and who’s light aircraft don’t stay in the sky…derekfishFree MemberThe more they get criticised, particularly by the irritating politically correct left, the greater their vote will be…
In this instance had UKIP ironically had their way that company would have had to try and employ the lazy uneducated English work force, that in all probability would turn its nose up at such a menial task or charge so much UKIP couldn’t have afforded it.
julianwilsonFree MemberLazy journalism for a more outrageous headline, innit. Of course its fast leaflet employing the latvians, what political party would go through the bother and HR cost of employing their own deliverers of leaflets for such a short length of time when they could purchase these services from someone who specialises in this work.
Gavin Barwell, Tory MP for Croydon Central, told HuffPost UK: “Ukip’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. They say they are against Europeans taking our jobs and then, when they have a chance to offer some British people work delivering their leaflets because they can’t find volunteers to do it, they employ European workers. You couldn’t make it up!”
Though this mp doesn’t exactly help clarify this arrangement with his use of “employ”, he does seem to have a point.
El-bentFree Memberpolitically correct
You mean normal people who like the idea of being nice to each other? 😀
CaptainFlashheartFree MemberLazy journalism for a more outrageous headline, innit.
From the HuffPo? Who’dathunkit?
derekfishFree MemberEl-bent – Member
politically correct
You mean normal people who like the idea of being nice to each other?No I mean abnormal people who make us
normal peoplesDaily Mail readers lives a misery. 😉El-bentFree MemberNo I mean abnormal people who make normal peoples lives a misery.
How so?
ernie_lynchFree Memberderekfish – Member
The more they get criticised, particularly by the irritating politically correct left…..
You’re at it again derekfish …….Gavin Barwell, Tory MP for Croydon Central, told HuffPost UK: “Ukip’s hypocrisy knows no bounds”.
Only you would describe a Tory MP as “the irritating politically correct left”.
As Gavin Barwell points out the problem for UKIP is that they can’t find volunteers who are committed to their party’s policies to do their leafleting for them.
But then how can anyone have any real commitment to UKIP when no one really knows what UKIP policies are ? Their supporters are as clueless of UKIP policies as their candidates are loopy.
El-bentFree MemberHow long have you got?
Well go on then, spit it out, I fancy a laugh.
derekfishFree Memberernie_lynch – Member
derekfish – Member
The more they get criticised, particularly by the irritating politically correct left…..You’re at it again derekfish .
You know I didn’t mean that poor desperate Tory MP, and the PC quip was aimed closer to STW home than that my fine fettered red flag following friend.. 😉
derekfishFree MemberEl-bent – Member
How long have you got?
Well go on then, spit it out, I fancy a laugh.Well now let me think, what about todays latest.. How is it my youngest child having benefited from a fine state education, followed even by a spell in the private sector and all her friends, know all about the five pillars of islam, but nothing of Magna Carta – as a for instance.
sweepyFree MemberOnly you would describe a Tory MP as “the irritating politically correct left”.
To be fair, to UKIP the Torys are the irritating politically correct left.
ninfanFree Member…when they have a chance to offer some British people work delivering their leaflets because they can’t find volunteers to do it, they employ European workers. You couldn’t make it up!”
Though this mp doesn’t exactly help clarify this arrangement with his use of “employ”, he does seem to have a point.
Well, for a start it would be illegal under EU law for UKIP to contract a firm and say they could only use British workers, and on top of that it would be illegal under EU law for ‘Fast Leaflet’ to employ only British workers
So the fact that they were unable to contract or employ only British workers to do it due to EU law actually reinforces UKIP’s point surely
British Jobs for British Workers as a certain former prime minister said!
NickFull MemberGiven UKIP’s scare mongering about foreign labour streaming into the country, if I was Nigel Farage I’d damn well be checking that I wasn’t making a **** of myself when engaging a contractor, it’s fairly common practice these days to take responsibility for your supply chain, just makes them look like the amateurs they are.
jambalayaFree MemberPlease stop under-estimating and trivialising UKIP. Stop classifying them as the “far right”, they are attracting voters from the right, the centre and the left.
ninfanFree Memberif I was Nigel Farage I’d damn well be checking that I wasn’t making a **** of myself when engaging a contractor, it’s fairly common practice these days to take responsibility for your supply chain
As pointed out above, what do you expect him to do? Break the law?
El-bentFree MemberWell now let me think, what about todays latest.. How is it my youngest child having benefited from a fine state education, followed even by a spell in the private sector and all her friends, know all about the five pillars of islam, but nothing of Magna Carta – as a for instance.
So what you are saying that they should not know something about one of the world religions over the value of something other than in its historical context, has been replaced by other legislation?
Did they learn any other history? How about WW1? Or the civil war? Or the reaffirmation?
derekfishFree MemberEl-bent – Member
So what you are saying that they should not know something about one of the world religions over the value of something other than in its historical context, has been replaced by other legislation?Did they learn any other history? How about WW1? Or the civil war? Or the reaffirmation?
Pandering to Islam is just one irritating politically correct instance. Why Islam? Why not the Hindu Faith, or Buddism, both peaceful religions, both with representation here, but beyond that, the Magna Carta is the root of the freedoms and basis for our Justice System, which has been exported far and wide, pretty fundamental that kids know about it rather than some aggressively bigoted religion like Islam.
NorthwindFull MemberIt’s quite funny but tbh this sort of thing just distracts from the sort of madcap stuff they actually do totally of their own volition, so it’s probably counterproductive.
deadlydarcyFree Member…aggressively bigoted…
Aren’t aggressively bigoted folk just horrible to be around?!
derekfishFree Memberdeadlydarcy – Member
…aggressively bigoted…
Aren’t aggressively bigoted folk just horrible to be around?!Anyone with a beard is just horrible to be around.
Ask those 200 Nigerian girls.
boxelderFull MemberDerekfish
It’s a matter of balance. As a teacher, I raise awareness of the Muslim faith before those others, to counter the constant barrage of vitriol that kids are exposed to from certain areas of the popular press. Though I’m sure your daughter gets to form her own opinions, encouraged by those around her to keep an open mind.
El-bent
I think you meant Reformation.derekfishFree Memberboxelder – Member
DerekfishIt’s a matter of balance. As a teacher, I raise awareness of the Muslim faith before those others, to counter the constant barrage of vitriol that kids are exposed to from certain areas of the popular press. Though I’m sure your daughter gets to form her own opinions, encouraged by those around her to keep an open mind.
As a teacher do you know of the events surrounding Magna Carta? Can you enlighten pupils about the facts surrounding our Civil War, Cromwell and the resulting powers granted to parliament?
None of these kids know the first thing about any of it.
ninfanFree MemberI have to agree with Derekfish on the lack of knowledge about the development of our own constitution – personally I think its a fascinating subject, but I’m a geek like that. (Horrible Histories should be mandatory reading & watching)
El-bentFree MemberPandering to Islam is just one irritating politically correct instance. Why Islam? Why not the Hindu Faith, or Buddism, both peaceful religions, both with representation here, but beyond that, the Magna Carta is the root of the freedoms and basis for our Justice System, which has been exported far and wide, pretty fundamental that kids know about it rather than some aggressively bigoted religion like Islam.
Oh come on, that didn’t take very long to show your colours. No fun.
Surely you should contacting the history department of said schools, and asking why Magna carta isn’t on the list? We do have a rather large amount of history to cover after all.
And surely its not a bad idea for them to get to know something about one of the worlds religions(with a million+ followers in the country) rather than listening to the rantings of their father?
I suppose they could have learnt about the Christian faith and how peaceful it is…oh, hang on.
Singlespeed_ShepFree MemberOne of my local Potential MEP’s is Amjad Bashir – UKIP
I think him and other Ukips members will get pretty good support if i’m honest.
Tom_W1987Free MemberDerekfish, I dislike you as much as beardy suicide bomber types. In fact, I’m half imagining you as some sort of Anders Breivik loon.
Keep fighting the power, bro.
chewkwFree MemberI shall vote UKIP for MEP for some entertainments rather than the traditional spineless lot.
As for the MP and local council I shall vote for the opposition (whoever is the strongest opposition) to those who are currently in power.
They are all zombie maggots regardless of the party I vote for.
derekfishFree MemberOh come on, that didn’t take very long to show your colours. No fun.
Surely you should contacting the history department of said schools, and asking why Magna carta isn’t on the list? We do have a rather large amount of history to cover after all.
And surely its not a bad idea for them to get to know something about one of the worlds religions(with a million+ followers in the country) rather than listening to the rantings of their father?
I suppose they could have learnt about the Christian faith and how peaceful it is…oh, hang on.
Personally I’d sooner they were taught about the Hindu faith, which is open and encompasses lots of teachings, but then Hindu’s don’t go around bleating victim on one hand whilst bombing, torturing, discriminating, hell bent on world domination with the other, but that isn’t the point. They’re not at school to learn about religion per se, they’re there to learn enough about themselves to carry out an existence. Part of that existence is knowing who you are, where you’re from, why so many people from other countries want to come here.
All of that has the fundamental basis in history, from Magna Carta, through the civl war, the conquest of half the world and the loss of it all to the US and various other countries. I seem to spend almost all of my waking hours whenever these kids come round explaining it all to them.
They even have sessions boning up on minor little things I think they should know, you know like being able to name three or four English counties, never mind naming all of them and telling me where they are.
Or I rip the piss out of them and they worry about coming round to take her out for fear of being lab led ‘moron’ which quite frankly I can do all too often and shouldn’t given they are bright kids, supposedly well educated.
So what has this to do with UKIP, I hear you wonder? Fundamentally it is the root of the reason parties like UKIP can breed, on the fear brought about by lack of education, the reason why there are so many folk from other countries here and why they’re here, pretty much all of their countries have either been invaded by us, or fought over in times past, but our kids don’t know all this, or about basic freedoms that have been fought for, so in teaching religious trivia, rather than history, we are causing the problem.
derekfishFree MemberTom_W1987 – Member
Derekfish, I dislike you as much as beardy suicide bomber types. In fact, I’m half imagining you as some sort of Anders Breivik loon.Keep fighting the power, bro.
Wel Tom rest assured you’d be the first in the cross hairs the day I finally flip out.. 😉
PS that bloke can’t be all bad, he hasn’t got that big a beard
Tom_W1987Free MemberThey’re not at school to learn about religion per se, they’re there to learn enough about themselves to carry out an existence. Part of that existence is knowing who you are, where you’re from, why so many people from other countries want to come here.
LOL.
NickFull Memberif I was Nigel Farage I’d damn well be checking that I wasn’t making a **** of myself when engaging a contractor, it’s fairly common practice these days to take responsibility for your supply chain
ninfan – Member
As pointed out above, what do you expect him to do? Break the law?
Nope, I don’t expect him to break the law.
It’s purely toughshit that he doesn’t have enough volunteers to hand out the leaflets, doesn’t mean he has to compromise his own principles, unless he doesn’t actually have any.
El-bentFree MemberSo what has this to do with UKIP, I hear you wonder? Fundamentally it is the root of the reason parties like UKIP can breed, on the fear brought about by lack of education, the reason why there are so many folk from other countries here and why they’re here, pretty much all of their countries have either been invaded by us, or fought over in times past, but our kids don’t know all this, or about basic freedoms that have been fought for, so in teaching religious trivia, rather than history, we are causing the problem.
So teach them about empire, and how we killed an awful lot of them in a gun beats spear kind of way, but don’t teach them about what you refer to as “religious trivia”. So they are ignorant of one of the worlds biggest religions. And this is a way to neutralise UKIP?
Hate to say this, but this argument I’ve come across before, from the EDL.
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