So supple that you **** your rims up when you run them soft!?
On cross, in the mire, yes. In XC with rocks and roots, no.
You're gonna be a bit screwed when you leave Juniors Bruce, no wheel swaps unless you're in Elite. So every puncture = race finished!
While I think that you'd have a very messy time trying to make one on your own, I can see the benefit of tyre manufacturers making beaded tubular tyres with the normal gap between the beads closed in with a rubber strip and a valve in the right place .. a kind of hybrid tub
perhaps they just want to keep selling us innertubes! It's a conspiracy I tell ya!
someone mentioned this thread to me earlier - said the guy must be smoking alot of good shit - now i know its you ian - i know my comments true 
btw if im not mistaken geax made a forae into this years ago ....
I'm far from convinced that this would practically work or have benefits but then I'll bet that's exactly what people said about ghetto to start. It often takes a nutjob 
slightly eccentric person to do these things first/come up with the idea.
Good on you - give it a go and I'll be interested to hear the results.
13thfloormonk - Member
I had envisaged turning the tyre (assuming its a folder) inside out to do the first half, would allow you to do it pretty neatly, especially if you were able to turn it inside out with one bead actually located on the rim...
It looked like a normal tyre but had what looked like a section of inner tube vulcanised on one side (inside). The other side was not glued, but loose, but had enough width to bear against the inside of the opposite side of the tyre. Apparently air pressure was enough to seal it.
At the time it was very old and perished, so i suppose it was an idea from the 1890s to early 1900s (that's when the bike shop opened), and obviously not successful then because it did not become commonplace.
Might work now though with a compressor or CO2
Epicyclo, the idea would be to avoid having to use compressors or CO2, if you sealed both sides, even only 90% perfectly, you should be able to achieve enough pressure with even a normal pump.
While I want to prove this works, I've had so much grief recently with tyres, and so little time to fix them, that I'm very tempted just to buy some proper UST tyres and be done with it...
Tufo still do road ones, as I think I said early on. They call them 'tubular clinchers' or something similarly imaginative.
I can’t see any advantage inyour “Ghetto Tubs” idea over and above UST or Ghetto tubeless really,
Twice the faff of Ghetto tubeless, trying to glue a strip of inner tube into the tyre, with no additional advantage?
still fannying around with non tubeless rims ian ?
my stans 355s with yellow tape - fairly faff free with my blackburn track pump - by fairly faff free i mean i might have to apply weight to the tred at the valve area if it doesnt inflate first time ! - reminds me best change tires this weekend for SXC next weekend 
Oh jesus, I can just picture all the 'ghetto tub' threads we're likely to get!
I've gotta change mine too for the weekend, hopefully the Rons haven't worn out any more over winter!
I don't really know why I'm fighting my corner any more, I've had one too many pissy little failures recently and am seriously considering just going proper UST...
HOWEVER
Cookeaa, there are a couple of advantages at least over Ghetto. By glueing the strip on you would (in theory) be able to inflate and seat your tyre with even the weeniest handpump, as there is nowhere for the air to leak out.
Also, although I don't 'burp' tyres often, if you 'burped' with the ghetto tub (thanks njee, its got a name now!) then you wouldn't lose any air as the glued strip would still be there.
Finally (and definitely in theory only) you could do repairs on the trail by unsticking the glued strip where you need to repair the tyre, patch the tyre, and then reglue the strip, to then inflate with your handpump again (humour me on this one...)
Plus after a couple of attempts I'll bet glueing the strip on isn't that much faff, would just require some ingenuity.
Terry, I've got 819s, just didn't fancy the weight or selection of proper UST tyres. Think I'm gonna give them a shot now though, too many ripped tyres to repair!
I've yet to Burp a ghetto or proper tubeless tyre myself...
I'd question how well the bead will seat if your glue in strip is bellow inside the tyre, plus your tubs adhesive is effectively under sheer so quite likely to let go, why not consider gluing your tube strip on the outside of the bead so it's constantly under compression sandwiched between the bead and rim wall?
Basically a Ghetto setup with the tube strip glued in position...
so im thinking instead of fairy liquid for seating tires we just use tub cement
Tubs will have better rolling resistance for the same pressures due to their tubular shape: less hysteresis losses.
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