new hummer has same geom as my 2006 one (doesn;t it) ?

Seeing as it's a new manfacturer, a new chainstay design, seems a lot more XC (it has seat tube bottle bosses), I'm not sure they kept the geometry the same (for a 2010 model, no change in 4yrs?)

not pretty cable guides? oh dear

tell me more…………?

who builds them now ?

1st sandvik, then litespeed, who for 2010 ?

not pretty cable guides? oh dear

Ginger Shen is gutted.

I think they're lovely.

ashah – lynskey build hummers now too…….LOL….

exactly the same geom as my 2006 btw…….

http://covebike.com/bikes/hummer.html

viva le Ti456 imo 😀

it's enough to make me look for an alternative frame. 🙄

viva le Ti456 imo

thank goodness we've got that sorted.

possibly not – just found out that Gravity Sports has a new account with Hotlines !!!!

brant – Member

5. When you counter in the sag with a 160mm fork, you end up about the same as a 140 fork anyhow, unless you run 'em hard.

Are you saying that there's little difference between the two, hence negating your earlier points?

And why the current trend to argue "all forks are the same length compressed" How much time do you spend delicately steering with your forks fully compressed?

I did kind of rumble things a bit with that last point didn't I 🙂

Though the chopped back climbing thing still is valid, as you have less weight up front.

But surely a longer/heavier fork counteracts that 😛

i just wondered,would it be poss for my local bike shop to order a ti 456 frame,and then i could p/x my s works hardtail frame?am interested in the frame,as i think it would do what i want (mainly an all day do/attempt it all bike)+it would last a lifetime!!!thanks 😀

edited (can't read).

I think it would have been useful to have had the "original", OnOne Ti29er on this review, since it's the bigger brother of the Ti456, and I guess both the actual & spiritual fore-runner of this new Ti bike.
Or am I wrong in this assesment?

PS – I rode an OnOne Ti29er on both the Black and the Red routes 2x each at Glentress with 1.8 tyres. My quads got a serious work-out!