Fwiw all cartridge forks are prone to this problem. This week I've had 2 sets of rockshox into the workshop with bad stnchion wear. Not much fun on a £900 totem...
If you don't want to do the maintanence buy an open bath fork, simple really.
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Fox stantions wear.
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I'm going to ride the forks to the ground and then replace upper and lower legs with a full service. £400 but new forks. Or might sell them on ebay soon...
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open bath fork
such as?
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"before twatting the nuts on the lowers, fully remove the nuts and save the crush washers for re-use !!!
then refit nuts a turn or two and give a good firm bashing"Yep, did that.
BTW. Nail polish - will that heal my new scratch?
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Good question is which forks are open bath? Why no upside down forks anymore. How about some upside down open bath coil forks for 2010?
best and most reliable forks were the old single crown Marz shivers.
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I believe a 15 hr service interval is totally unrealistic
My chain needs lubing more frequently than that. Is that unreasonable too?
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I was really sorry to see my old Z1 forks go. They were great. After nearly eight years of riding them, the stanchions were looking a little lighter near the seals than the rest of the stanchion. Hardly any wear at all.
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I've been pondering something here. Now I run enduro seals on mine, there's a bit of space inside the foks between the oil seal and the dust seal. I was wondering what would happen if I drilled a little hole here and fitted a small grease neipple. I could then inject Manitou M-prep or similar which would purge any dirt from the wiper seal but he oil seal should keep it out of the internals.
Any thoughts?
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onza - possibility of lubricating oil spilling through, esp when stored upside down.....
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is that likely? I thought that the enduro seals actually 'sealed' so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Buzz Lightyear - the scratch is unlikely to ruin your forks.
Were you holding the forks by the sliders when whacking the rod-ends?
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If its not a common occurrence on other manufacturers forks- then I think you are very reasonable to request a free replacement. Its a defect/manufacturers design problem no? Fox would have to prove that other manufacturers suffer the same.
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Am gutted for you Buzz, did you remove the nuts and washers, screw the nuts back on then use a rubber mallet as suggested? The first time I did the recommended service I convinced myself that the lowers were welded to the bolts and gave em a good few whacks before they finally gave way. I think in the end I needed to yank the lowers whilst standing on the bars (bike upside down). The same process seems easier now than the first time around
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can someone send me a linky to the the Fox method of removing the lowers please.
Where do people get the oil for the forks?
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Hora - fox will say its not a problem if the servicing schedule is followed correctly - and it probably isn't. thus no claim of unfit for purpose could be made
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salad_dodger - MemberSo you automatically void the Fox warranty if you use them in a 24 hour race?!
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richc - MemberNo, you just need to stop mid race for a service
Class. So they are really tightening up their service schedule to cover themselves for a brilliant/yet fragile product?
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Is using Manitou Prep M greae a good or a bad idea? Why?
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Am now well on the way to a third set of uppers! Will wear the feckers out and go RS in future! Would not spend another penny on Fox's.
I have been METICULOUSLY FASTIDIOUS in following and exceeding Fox's guidance on maintainanice and still it happens. The seals just don't seal!Is it any coincidence that Giant now spec RS SID's on their top of the line Anthems now?
I think though perhaps it is partly the british weather, but that makes the unfit for use, therefore sale, here.
Mate has just bought an 09 anthem 2 with RL100's, I warned him, so good luck to him. 2 months in, and wear has started, just visible on left leg as discussed in previous post.
Fox warrantied my first set after 8 months after pressure from my LBS, but bob hope after that. Perhaps we, as the Singletrack Massif, could all email "WatchDog" together? Who knows, could make for an interesting bit of filming. Does any one KNow If Nicky Campbell is an MTB'er??
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This happened on my 2003 Vanillas. IMO it is a design fault in the design and material that the bushing is made of and how it is wrapped and pressed into the leg. In my forks the bushings simply were not flush.
Really the bushing should wear out and not the stanchion.
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TandemJeremy - Member
The issue is IMO that most fox forks have a cartridge damper and only 15 ml of oil in one side as a result. this is insufficient oil to splash lube the top bush on that side.
Inverting the bike after each ride allows this lube to get to the top bush.
I believe a 15 hr service interval is totally unrealistic and is put in the spec purely to prevent warrenty claims.
The older set of vanillas I got ( pre worn for pennies) I simply put 100 ml of oil in the non damper side. No alteration to function ( maybe a bit of ramp up from air compression in the dead space) and well lubricated top bush.
The only answers are to either follow the fox maintenance instructions closely, try over filling with oil as I have done, buy open bath forks which don't have this issue
This is My experience too. There is just not enough oil in the non damper side leg. If a seal on this leg starts to leak oil (even over just one long ride) there isnt enough oil left to in the leg to stop the bushing damaging the stanchion. So unless you stop riding as soon as you notice the leak and walk the rest of the way your going to damage your fork. Putting more than the recommended amount of oil ruins the action of the fork for me. If fox designed it to run more oil in the first place this would less of a problem. The single piece OEM Fox Fork seals are rubbish too! Best use a seal and a wiper, Enduro or Rock Shock seals are much better.
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Has anyone heard this happen to Magura fork stanchions?
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Wife wants an Orange 5 Pro but I'm starting to worry about the suitability of Fox forks to the UK environment and hence wonder if it's worth getting a bike where there is a known weakness in a main component.
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Has anyone heard this happen to Magura fork stanchions?
No.
Wife wants an Orange 5 Pro but I'm starting to worry about the suitability of Fox forks to the UK environment and hence wonder if it's worth getting a bike where there is a known weakness in a main component.
Get them swapped out at the shop.
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